Gamer @ Heart
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PantyPhantom said:
That is some bad rationalization. How often will i import japanese 3DS games? Not often but having the option is ideal. Handheld Mobile devices have swapable batteries has become a norm.
New Vita Press release - games list, battery life ('3-5 hours'), memory card info
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That is some bad rationalization. How often will i import japanese 3DS games? Not often but having the option is ideal. Handheld Mobile devices have swapable batteries has become a norm.
frAntic_Frog
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f*kin Agoogleplex said:
this thread deserves the crown
lesson learned indeed
Supervlieg
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Assuming this is ordinairy flash memory, and giving them the benefit of the doubt and assuming its the fast type of memory, that new plastic cover they put around it is really expensive.
Its like they doubled the prices of flash memory. Its Sony's right obviously, since youre not forced to buy anything.
And if Apple can sell you an extra 32 gigs for $100, why cant Sony?
Its like they doubled the prices of flash memory. Its Sony's right obviously, since youre not forced to buy anything.
And if Apple can sell you an extra 32 gigs for $100, why cant Sony?
OldJadedGamer
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Zep said:
And again, gamers have been bitching about this for 6 years... why wouldn't They complain now?
XANDER CAGE
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But how will I watch cutscenes in Kojima games on the go!?
googleplex
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By selling you a $300 32gig value pack lol.duffyside said:
walking fiend
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R&D on battery and fuel cells is HEAVY. So, maybe not a breakthrough, but gradual advancement is a sure thing.jman2050 said:
lowrider007
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Aren't these memory sticks supposed to have a faster transfer rate than regular SD cards?
Chuck Norris
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How much is a 32GB SD card in Japan normally?
I hope this is cheaper locally. I was going to buy a lot of PSP games, but now I don't know
I hope this is cheaper locally. I was going to buy a lot of PSP games, but now I don't know
Gamer @ Heart
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Supervlieg said:
One is expandable memory, the other is a different piece of hardware. Market prices on flash memory has dropped considerably, and Sony is ignoring it to make a profit on this. It makes sense business wise. That doesnt mean we have to like it.
lowrider007
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PantyPhantom said:
I totally understand. If i where running the playstation unit, i would have demanded a closed battery too. That doesnt mean we have to like it!
That is the key to all this 'bad' news. None of it is ideal for the consumer, but it makes sense for Sony.
Official stance is still that TV out won't be supported I believe.Hyuga said:
It's a proprietary format, there is no street price. The cost is high of course, more than I was hoping for, but not unexpected.FoxSpirit said:
But you'll also have the likes of Sound Shapes and other PSN games that will use WAY under that amount, so 15 games on a 32GB isn't unreasonable (if you focus more on true DD games you could probably easily get 15 on a 16GB card).zoukka said:
Deadly Joker said:
Usually without solar panels. And you can't see it but you can get ones with multiple types of connections. Over here you also see the phone carriers also typically bundle them with phones.
Over here its more common than people lugging extra phone batteries, especially since this can charge more than phones.
lowrider007
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Gamer @ Heart said:
That's a good point to be fair, I guess some of us a trying to rationalise these decisions on Sony's behalf buy yeah your right.
Nuclear Muffin
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That battery life sounds very impressive, but we'll have to wait for the actual battery tests.
Edit: Actually, reading more closely it doesn't sound that good.
That battery life for the gameplay assumes that you're on the default battery setting (probably lowest or 2nd lowest then) and you're not using WiFi or 3G. The variance probably comes from how graphically intensive the game is.
Add on Wireless drain and you could probably knock that down to 2-4 hours. Increase the brightness and it could go even lower...
Ugh! Those memory card prices suck (Not surprised one little bit)
Edit
WTF?! Fuck this shit! I thought that all games would come with their own flash memory space for saving data on (like DS and 3DS game cards).
Ugh! So the Vita effectively becomes a minimum purchase price of $270 (since you have to have a memory card for certain games) Now there's effectively almost a $100 difference between the Vita and the 3DS. Not good, not good at all.
Edit: Actually, reading more closely it doesn't sound that good.
That battery life for the gameplay assumes that you're on the default battery setting (probably lowest or 2nd lowest then) and you're not using WiFi or 3G. The variance probably comes from how graphically intensive the game is.
Add on Wireless drain and you could probably knock that down to 2-4 hours. Increase the brightness and it could go even lower...
Ugh! Those memory card prices suck (Not surprised one little bit)
Edit
WTF?! Fuck this shit! I thought that all games would come with their own flash memory space for saving data on (like DS and 3DS game cards).
Ugh! So the Vita effectively becomes a minimum purchase price of $270 (since you have to have a memory card for certain games) Now there's effectively almost a $100 difference between the Vita and the 3DS. Not good, not good at all.
DiscoJer
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googleplex said:
I don't disagree with this, but at the same time, when the PS3 launched, it was also vastly more expensive than the 360.
The proprietary memory cards didn't seem so bad when the 3DS was also $250. But now that it's $80 more expensive than the 3ds, I'm not sure it can get away with it anymore.
Vita + 16 gig card (which I think the smallest one worth buying, based on that my PSP's 16 gig is full) would be $300, while a 3DS + 16 gig SD Card would be what, $190?
googleplex said:
Pretty much. Sony gained nothing by making the PS3 open this gen other than hacks and piracy. And we saw how not locking down the PSP's battery did to that platform. They'll be stupid to continue this "openness" trend with Vita after seeing MS and Nintendo making bank selling over priced accessories and the aforementioned issues above.
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Jinfash said:
That sounds very ill advised...I wont be buying those games
lowrider007
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DiscoJer said:
So what your effectively saying is that the 3DS and vita should be the same price?
Atomski said:
do we know if they are the same tech? transfer rates, specs etc as regular SD cards?
duffyside said:
It was smart if they wanted to keep the price of the hardware in an affordable range. If they had internal storage the price would have been above $300 for the wi-fi model alone, and people would have claimed the Vita was too expensive. Sony is pretty much damned if they do, damned if they don't on this front, it sucks that the memory is expensive but with everything else built into the system it's not a deal breaker for me.
Someone correct me if i'm mistaken (I don't own any apple products myself) but apple does not even allow you to change the memory at all correct? So if you by say a 16gb Ipod/ipad your stuck with that unless you upgrade the entire unit?
ShockingAlberto
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Think of the upsideJinfash said:
At least those games won't have unerasable saves!
The others might, though.
Opus Angelorum
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So because of potential piracy (through the use of SD) the consumer is forced to buy expensive proprietary media.
Yep, that's Sony.
Yep, that's Sony.
Didn't Sony go the "openness" route with the hard-drive(and other items) because they wanted to be recognized as a computer, which would have given them certain tax breaks(I think this was it).
Probably had nothing to do with it but I just remember reading an article about that years back.
Probably had nothing to do with it but I just remember reading an article about that years back.
Supervlieg
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I dont say I like it. I think they could and should offer the memory at a reasonable price, but wont because they make more money this way.Gamer @ Heart said:
The only difference between the wifi version of an 32 gig ipad and a 64 gig ipad is $100. There is no difference in features whatsoever. So imo its a memory upgrade. Albeit one you pay for right away. Point being if apple charges $100 for flash memory, so will Sony.
Do tell. Does apple have an exclusive right to make profits?
lowrider007 said:
From a competitive standpoint, I'd say as close as possible. The problem will be the same one that DS vs PSP had where PSP had better hardware technically but DS is close enough that not a lot of people care because DS is the right price and has tons of games. The only way Vita will do really well in that environment is just a fucking torrent of games compared to a trickle from 3DS and I don''t think that's gonna happen. Vita will do OK like PSP but it will be like PSP all over again.
Hmmmja... wtf???
No portable EVER had this.
Really, watching that conference today was such a downer... literally. Made you forget about all the great stuuf announced and gave off the impression of "PSVita has no gaems."
I need some good stuff from TGS to wash that off. Yes, it was that bad.