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New Yorker: Harvey Weinstein's Accusers Tell Their Stories
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Holy shit.
Like he said. Afraid no one would believe him, his job, and quite frankly. It's embarrassing as fuck.
Baki
Member
Can he be jailed. Please say yes.
Wow, sorry that this happened to Crews. But what the hell, these execs really feel untouchable do they.
He's absolutely right though. Sure, he could have easily kicked the guy's ass, but doing so would have ruined his life. He would be in jail if not shot, and he would never find a job again. It's the right thing to do, but it would not be worth the cost to him. Bringing that guy to justice would have come at the cost of his entire livelihood and the well-being of everyone who depended on him.
The exec knew it. That's why he did it and had that shit-eating grin as a reply.
Remember when Joe Biden came out to the Oscars a few years back and asked for the industry's help in combating bullying. What a shit industry. We've long heard jokes of the casting couch but imagine what it must feel like to be so powerless. Weinstein isn't the first, sure as shit isn't the last either. Hopefully this spurs change. No more shielding the powerful. Get that Hillary Clinton bs out of here. They just want to bring that up for the fact they elected a sexual deviant and predator as President and don't want to admit it.
This is why I believe women when they speak out. Everyone should.
This is why I believe women when they speak out. Everyone should.
broncobuster
Banned
Yeah. And it's easy to imagine how much more difficult it'll be for a young actor starting out to refuse and speak out.
Mammoth Jones
Member
They knew. The didn't care. For the greater good. Disgusting.
Wet Bloodfart
Banned
what the fuck
Fortunately she made the right choice, there's enough victims as it is. Ofcourse even she couldn't avoid the inappropriate suggestions.
Mammoth Jones
Member
I think many in the donor class said "it's just rumors let's get this money and keep it moving."
I'm talking about democrats accepting his donation money.
Lights and Waves
Member
Rose Mcgowan exposing Ben Affleck as a hypocrite on Twitter. GET HIM QUEEN!
https://twitter.com/rosemcgowan/status/917848581540757504
https://twitter.com/rosemcgowan/status/917848581540757504
Damn. This is going to rightfully body a lot of people in the industry.
Mammoth Jones
Member
See? Dude knew trying to act like he didn't. Disgusting.
the_darkness
Banned
Why the fuck is it Hillary's responsibility to comment on these allegations? And it's your expectation that she "get out in front" of this before any of it was substantiated?
So your bullshit spin here is "I don't care, but the GOP will therefore this matters."
Quit the concern trolling.
Can someone explain what is being said here
Ben knew and apparently told Harvey to stop at some point. He's a fucking liar basically.
brianmcdoogle
Member
It also doesnt help that Affleck's brother Casey has had allegations about him and that hes had to make payments as well.
the_darkness
Banned
Affleck posted a statement a few hours ago saying how shocked and saddened he was to read the allegations.
McGowan is saying that she had a conversation with him about it at some press conference where he intimated that he knew all about it.
Atomic Playboy
Member
Not a liar; his statement actually makes no specific statement to the effect of "I didn't know." So it's actually much worse; he knew, and he failed to act.
The tweet, quoting what Ben had once told her:
https://twitter.com/rosemcgowan/status/917848581540757504
In response to:
https://www.facebook.com/benaffleck/posts/1675252255882528
Also, a bit earlier:
https://twitter.com/rosemcgowan/status/917844865806778368
ronaldthump
Member
That article was a maddening read. Yikes. What a foul beast
The tweet, quoting what Ben had once told her:
https://twitter.com/rosemcgowan/status/917848581540757504
In response to:
https://www.facebook.com/benaffleck/posts/1675252255882528
Also, a bit earlier:
https://twitter.com/rosemcgowan/status/917844865806778368
Oh shit. Ben looks like a fuckbag here.
I love this woman.The tweet, quoting what Ben had once told her:
https://twitter.com/rosemcgowan/status/917848581540757504
In response to:
https://www.facebook.com/benaffleck/posts/1675252255882528
Also, a bit earlier:
https://twitter.com/rosemcgowan/status/917844865806778368
All these fuckers like him and Meryl Streep claiming they didn't know... they fucking knew. Fuck, I knew and I have zero connections to the industry at all. It's been on gossip and rumor sites for years.
broncobuster
Banned
Sounds like he tried to act, but utterly failed. Because power dynamics. And what's sad is the reason Harvey is finally getting all this pressed to him is, again, power dynamics from his company. It's a messed up industry.
Wet Bloodfart
Banned
everything is awful and depressing. I'm just going to become a hermit and stay indoors for the rest of time
Well yeah, it can be read in two ways. Either he is saying that the real crime is Weinstein meddling with the works of artists. Or that Weinstein is a piece of shit and people like that tarnish films with their involvement. "Don't let that rapist touch the film". But either way, it's really fucking odd for him to even bring that up right now. Weinstein's victims are much more important than any films. It doesn't really show any concern to the victims just that he doesn't like the guy.
Unfortunately, I do think that there's more than a few guys out there that are interpreting this as justice against Harvey Scissorhands, as if the art that was being tampered with counts for more than the lives that Harvey has made so much worse with his predations.
Affleck isn't only one. There seems to be quite a few who knew about Weinsten, but didn't do or say anything,
Hasphat'sAnts
Member
Hope Bryan Singer is shaking with fear somewhere.
Honestly this is looking like some shit people in the industry turned a blind eye because Weinstein was so huge. Which itself is the problem, Terry Crews staying silent until today blew me away. I wouldnt have expected him to be scared to say anything.
This is going to be a pretty big fucking list.
Why's that?
fabricated backlash
Member
He more likely will be the next president
UserNotFound
Member
How far does this go?
How many people have been affected?
How does the Academy and the industry heads respond?
This is going to be a dark pit, I surmise. Who knows how many victims there have been and how many are still protected by the industry.
And of course this is Hillary Clinton's fault, like she's supposed to know that Harvey was a scumbag when she wouldn't have been able to anyways (People forget that the accused were either paid off with roles or money, sometimes both).
🙄
On top of that, he had a former President's daughter in his office...
How many people have been affected?
How does the Academy and the industry heads respond?
This is going to be a dark pit, I surmise. Who knows how many victims there have been and how many are still protected by the industry.
And of course this is Hillary Clinton's fault, like she's supposed to know that Harvey was a scumbag when she wouldn't have been able to anyways (People forget that the accused were either paid off with roles or money, sometimes both).
🙄
On top of that, he had a former President's daughter in his office...
Frozenprince
Banned
Please. God.
Let this be what finally breaks up the fucking cult of Hollywood. Let this finally usher in an era where actors aren't beholden to child rapists and serial sex offenders and willing to defend them because of their fucked up idea of fraternity and professional advancement.
Let this be what finally breaks up the fucking cult of Hollywood. Let this finally usher in an era where actors aren't beholden to child rapists and serial sex offenders and willing to defend them because of their fucked up idea of fraternity and professional advancement.
jellies_two
Member
It isn't clear to me that it's worse in Hollywood as a percentage of powerful people vs if you take any famous / powerful person at random.
Roger Ailes wasn't Hollywood.
Hollywood just has a large number of famous and powerful people all in one place.
YouTube stars aren't Hollywood, or a cult, and there have been a number of them as well.
in law or business a large number of people get away with stuff.
Trump wasn't Hollywood either (although he wanted to be).
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
There's no real way to sugar coat it, but I guarantee that issues like this are prevalent throughout borderline every major industry in the world, not in the least bit limited to entertainment. I work in employment services and I've lost count of the amount of clients detailing sexual harassment issues at previous roles. Everything from the police force to a fish and chip shop.
Sexual harassment boils over in positions of power, in particular where the assaulter is in a high position of gatekeeping where they're surrounded by individuals who are inherently vulnerable and desperate. Entertainment fits this like a glove for the obvious reasons (music, film, etc; young people simply wanting to make it in a cutthroat industry), but it's no different in corporate or government service as well.
And I think that's what some people forget, particularly those that argue that sexual harassment is on the way out. I'd argue that cultural attitude towards women and sexuality are absolutely improving, but senior executives, people in positions of power, and gatekeepers in most major industries are not the youth. They're people from generations where they were given far more leniency to their behavior, rapidly ascended to their power, and now have few if anybody to challenge them. For example, the aforementioned police force client made the point that her reporting sexual harassment would have accomplished nothing; the senior staff member had too greater rapport. The best case scenario would be him being moved over to a different site by his superiors who know full well what he's like and just want to bury it, and her effectively ruining her career as she is seen as a trouble maker.
TLDR: It's all absolutely fucked, everywhere.
Not just Hollywood
What? Weinstein is one of the most important producers in Hollywood AND New York City and has his hands on every facet of the entertainment industry aside from music. This is their livelihoods he has on the line. And there was no way for anyone but a few to know the extent Weinstein went.
But he has basically sexually accosted every actress in Hollywood, so this was eventually going to get out.
The president of the country bragged about grabbing woman by their pussies and abusing his position of authority to get sexual favors. You think Hollywood is the big problem?