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[Disco_]

So there cannot be some very specific modification to the Hardware because the have only the AMD tools? I thought if MS or Sony put some extra money they could let AMD develop something special only for them

The special sauce people usually talk about is usually related to the software side of things. If MS told AMD to develop something, that something would probably be leveraged by AMD when negotiating prices and would end up in AMD's own products.
There was talks of Sony possibly going with PowerVR for RT rather than AMD. AMD would still be the one to integrate that into the APU. But again, that would cost more money as you said and neither MS nor Sony would just absorb that cost. They'd pass it onto us.

 

[Mriverz]

#In 16tf we trust. #16tftrain #choochooomf. #ReramHbmSsdTriplechiplets

 

[ethomaz]

Where is this at? Thank God!

There is a PR news direct from AMD.
You can look at the thread in GAF.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Bo_Hazem
Oh yeah...pretty much everywhere else it was Famicon and Megadrive, while we got NES and Genesis.

P.S.-You are old. You probably have a bad back and everything. Your kids looking into retirement homes for you yet?

P.P.S- I'm even older...

IkarugaDE

Damn, Super Famicon and SNES. Big pimpin'.

I remember getting some "Genesis" models, US models, and some were saying don't buy those, they're fake, replicas

Speaking of age, I started to accept some white hair, extremely few though, funny how kids at school get shocked when they know I'm 34 Stay active though

 

[Agnostic2020]

#In 16tf we trust. #16tftrain #choochooomf. #ReramHbmSsdTriplechiplets

Haha u have completely lost it

 

[TherapistGaymer]

Thing is you havnt been talking about Specs and leaks. if anybody says different you get on the defensive. Fake insiders, criminals, idiots, Nda, court law smh. For the last 5 pages all you have done was troll and bash. github github github you trying mumble rap?

I can't stop laughing. Okay I feel better now -someone gets it. All i could think of was Migos repeating 9.2 over and over.

 

[Aceofspades]

AMD Ray Tracing Will Arrive "When The Time is Right" - Next-Gen Raytracing Addressed

AMD has said in a recent briefing that raytracing will arrive on their cards "when the time is right". Here's what that means.

www.techquila.co.in

RDNA2 and RT for both next gen consoles, said AMD dude on january, they claim. I hope this "ps5 will not have rt / rdna2" nonsense ends

"
AMD AS A COMPANY…STRONGLY BELIEVES IN THE VALUE AND CAPABILITY OF RAYTRACING. RDNA 2, THE NEXT-GEN, WILL SUPPORT RAYTRACING. BOTH THE NEXT-GEN XBOX AND PLAYSTATION WILL SUPPORT HARDWARE RAYTRACING WITH RADEON NATIVELY. WE WILL BE SURE TO HAVE THE CONTENT THAT GAMERS CAN ACTUALLY USE TO RUN ON THOSE GPUS


WE BELIEVE IN OUR RAYTRACING, AND WE WILL HAVE IT WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT.

Mithun Chandrashekhar, Product Management Lead, AMD "

I wish you @ R600 and JAMMA, missed a golden opportunity

Whom am I kidding, in few hours they will start spewing 8TF no RT shit again

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

#In 16tf we trust. #16tftrain #choochooomf. #ReramHbmSsdTriplechiplets

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[IkarugaDE]

Yours looks different though, is it another version? You have some insane collection, man. I envy you My mom just tend to through unnecessary items at home or give them to the poor/needy. Having the original 2600 with its elegant/antique wood design would be nice.

Thanks!

It's a Atari 2600 Junior (Slim in other words ). Not so beautiful like the original VCS, but much smaller.

By the way, my complete collection (without my red/black PS4 and the Switch):

And some games with original packaging:

 

[SSfox]

AMD Ray Tracing Will Arrive "When The Time is Right" - Next-Gen Raytracing Addressed

AMD has said in a recent briefing that raytracing will arrive on their cards "when the time is right". Here's what that means.

www.techquila.co.in

RDNA2 and RT for both next gen consoles, said AMD dude on january, they claim. I hope this "ps5 will not have rt / rdna2" nonsense ends

"
AMD AS A COMPANY…STRONGLY BELIEVES IN THE VALUE AND CAPABILITY OF RAYTRACING. RDNA 2, THE NEXT-GEN, WILL SUPPORT RAYTRACING. BOTH THE NEXT-GEN XBOX AND PLAYSTATION WILL SUPPORT HARDWARE RAYTRACING WITH RADEON NATIVELY. WE WILL BE SURE TO HAVE THE CONTENT THAT GAMERS CAN ACTUALLY USE TO RUN ON THOSE GPUS


WE BELIEVE IN OUR RAYTRACING, AND WE WILL HAVE IT WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT.

Mithun Chandrashekhar, Product Management Lead, AMD "

So does this confirm PS5 will be RDNA2.0? Since from RDNA2 seems to be the only that can do RT natively?

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation |OT11| All Hell Has Broken Loose. CONTEST INSIDE!

stick with the very last word you said. ps4 hardware back compat means they can only have a certain number of CU's unless they figure out a software solution like MS has. This makes no sense what so ever, ps4 has 18 CU and pro has 36, so clearly they are able to emulate the ps4 on the pro. No...

www.resetera.com

Someone over on Era linked to this. "Interesting" indeed.

Crazy fantasy time, but could be looking at a base + Pro PS5 scenario at launch? Maybe VFXVeteran was onto something, who knows. $399 base PS5 with 8.2-9.2TF and 16GB GDDR6, $599-$649 PS5 Pro with 14TF and 24-32GB GDDR6?

Either way it'd solidify Oberon, but give a Pro model with two of them in a Crossfire-like setup. Keep it at 36CUs active for optimal yields (32CU active each GPU for Pro model). Early adopters would probably go for the Pro model, so favor that in the split say 75/25 favoring PS5 Pro. Keep yields and power dissipation good for mass production on Pro model (and a good ratio in terms of TF to memory bandwidth).

Would give a 256-bit memory bus on base PS5 and "512-bit" memory bus via 2x 256-bit buses on each of the Oberon GPUs in Pro model. 24GB as an even mix of 8x 1GB and 8x 2GB chips. Could theoretically go for 32GB with all 2GB chips but would probably push the MSRP up north of $600.

Still not as good plan as just going base PS5 at launch and a Pro model 2/3 years down the road, I just thought it interesting the 5700 was mentioned here since Oberon fits its profile very clearly.

If such a scenario played out it'd be interesting what MS's response would be in pricing for XSX. I highly doubt it will go for MSRP above $499 but in this scenario they could probably even try for $450 especially if Lockhart is not coming at launch.

So does this confirm PS5 will be RDNA2.0? Since from RDNA2 seems to be the only that can do RT natively?

RDNA2 doesn't mean it's 7nm EUV. They could be on RDNA1 process node but have implemented many RDNA2 features onto their custom APU such as RT, VRR and VRS.

In fact I think that's exactly what MS has done, i.e also on 7nm and not EUV. RDNA2 doesn't require EUV and it's not even suggested it needs a big chip. AMD will be making many mobile APUs in the near future for example and would want to bring features like RT and VRS to those produces in iGPUs of their own, so it would make 100% sense for RDNA2 features to be implemented on smaller GPUs as well as the bigger ones.

If not then AMD would've botched up their approach big time. And I doubt they'd make that type of mistake.

 

[ethomaz]

JAMMA R R600 D DaMonsta D darkinstinct

GitHub...

 

[Throttle]

God damn all I can see is her boobs bouncing in that first gif... I need to go outside and get some fresh air

The number of bounces is equal to PS5 Tflops.

 

[Agnostic2020]

With amd confirming rdna2 for ps5 , another win for Tommy Fisher ?

 

[IkarugaDE]

IkarugaDE

Damn, Super Famicon and SNES. Big pimpin'.

Both are SNES. The european version (which looks like the super famicom) and the US. It's funny after the US and europe NES looks the same and only the japanese one looks so strange different.

 

[Hobbygaming]

GitHub believers could start to feel ashamed now.

AMD confirmed again both APUs is based in RDNA 2 and has hardware RT.

PS. I did wish it could be "secret" until PS5 reveal to be entertained by these jokers lol

I find it amusing that Sony just lets the narrative flow. I wonder if they sometimes sit back and laugh at what they read on forums

 

[TherapistGaymer]

So does this confirm PS5 will be RDNA2.0? Since from RDNA2 seems to be the only that can do RT natively?

Yes! It says they both are!

 

[Fake]

I find it amusing that Sony just lets the narrative flow. I wonder if they sometimes sit back and laugh at what they read on forums

Sometimes is hard to keep those info at secret and AMD wants views/pr.

 

[Gudji]

So does this confirm PS5 will be RDNA2.0? Since from RDNA2 seems to be the only that can do RT natively?

I mean it's not exactly confirmation until sony official does confirm it but it's an hint for what's to come.

I find it amusing that Sony just lets the narrative flow. I wonder if they sometimes sit back and laugh at what they read on forums

Because it benefits them. People have been saying PS5 is 9 TF for months now, if they present a console more powerful than that people will be more pleased. The only downside is if in fact they have a 9 TF console.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

With amd confirming rdna2 for ps5 , another win for Tommy Fisher ?

Win what? He said February reveal for PS5. Its fucking March and nothing happened so again, what did he get right or 'win'?

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

I find it amusing that Sony just lets the narrative flow. I wonder if they sometimes sit back and laugh at what they read on forums

Hopefully you don't pull the same stunt here you did in the XSX thread before you were almost banned there.

 

[DJ12]

With amd confirming rdna2 for ps5 , another win for Tommy Fisher ?

Knocking it out of the park lol

 

[Moridianae]

Again, imo you can't hold accountable for February reveals when this virus resulted in chaos so fast. It is obvious it hurt Sony and probably a few others, considering I read something a while back about some AAA games being pushed back due to it.

 

[jroc74]

God damn all I can see is her boobs bouncing in that first gif... I need to go outside and get some fresh air

Well I didn't until now....thanks alot.







No seriously, thanks alot.

 

[Spreewaldgurke]

The special sauce people usually talk about is usually related to the software side of things. If MS told AMD to develop something, that something would probably be leveraged by AMD when negotiating prices and would end up in AMD's own products.
There was talks of Sony possibly going with PowerVR for RT rather than AMD. AMD would still be the one to integrate that into the APU. But again, that would cost more money as you said and neither MS nor Sony would just absorb that cost. They'd pass it onto us.

All right thanks to clear this up. Always thought special sauce is HW related not SW. So we can really expect to see almost identical HW on both consoles. Which is awesome for developers but a bit boring too

 

[SleepDoctor]

Knocking it out of the park lol

Knocked it completely out the forums by getting banned too

 

[HawarMiran]

All right thanks to clear this up. Always thought special sauce is HW related not SW. So we can really expect to see almost identical HW on both consoles. Which is awesome for developers but a bit boring too

Are you from Brandenburg?

 

[Hawking Radiation]

AMD Ray Tracing Will Arrive "When The Time is Right" - Next-Gen Raytracing Addressed

AMD has said in a recent briefing that raytracing will arrive on their cards "when the time is right". Here's what that means.

www.techquila.co.in

Mithun Chandrashekhar, Product Management Lead, AMD

B B B B B BUT MA GITHUB SAID....

NO !!

MA GITHUB IS RIGHT. TRUTHFACTS

 

[Hobbygaming]

Hopefully you don't pull the same stunt here you did in the XSX thread before you were almost banned there.

I keep the same stance. I believe that even if Sony was at a power deficit, they would still have an advantage from the talent/management of WWS and the support studios like VASG, ICE, etc

Some people in that thread didn't like it but it's whatever

 

[SSfox]

With amd confirming rdna2 for ps5 , another win for Tommy Fisher ?

If this leak end up true...

 

[TLZ]

I didn't call for your ban, nor have I whined to prove your sources wrong if they were factual evidence.
For the record, Sony is shoving 9TF down your throats.

I have no issues if it was 9tf, but only at $399, as I've said several times. But if that comes true, that's official reveal. We currently have no official specs, so all we can do is speculate and debate. What you're doing is completely against that; "accept 9tf peasant or STFU". That's how you're coming across.

 

[Reindeer]

Damn, Coronavirus is back with a vengeance, almost 600 cases in Italy alone today.

 

[Mr Moose]

With amd confirming rdna2 for ps5 , another win for Tommy Fisher ?

I want to believe him, but... I don't know, I get the nagging feeling he's just a troll. We'll see how things go.

Damn, Coronavirus is back with a vengeance, almost 600 cases in Italy alone today.

Wait, really? Holy shit

 

[icy121]

Quick q: Did the Xbox Series X Media Briefing "leak" actually come from the official Xbox website?

 

[DeepEnigma]

Win what? He said February reveal for PS5. Its fucking March and nothing happened so again, what did he get right or 'win'?

Still hanging onto that is if we don't have a virus that just delayed practically everything including GDC.

He was the only one saying RDNA 2.0 with those specs while everyone else was denying 2.0 and ridiculing him.

That's more important than what might be a global pandemic that's delaying live events where they probably have to regroup and decide whether they wanna wait this out a little bit longer to still do one, or just put together an online format.

They still have time and banger software coming for the PS4.

 

[Reindeer]

I want to believe him, but... I don't know, I get the nagging feeling he's just a troll. We'll see how things go.

He gives an impression of a troll, but so far he has a 100% track record.

 

[Insane Metal]

love these type of manipulations...

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=Xbox,playstation

Lol. Xbox is a fraction of PS here in Brazil.

 

[Reindeer]

I want to believe him, but... I don't know, I get the nagging feeling he's just a troll. We'll see how things go.


Wait, really? Holy shit

Yeah

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[Neo Blaster]

Im ok with this...you didn't specify it had to be MY kidney. Lets get into the ice bath now shall we...

No tainted drink before? How rude!!

 

[ethomaz]

I find it amusing that Sony just lets the narrative flow. I wonder if they sometimes sit back and laugh at what they read on forums

We already discussed that before... which advantage give Sony to deny these made up rumors?

They are market leader, have the support from the gamers, etc... they just need to reveal the PS5 and boom everybody will hype and talk about it.

It is only focused hardcore forum that feels amused with Sony silent.

 

[Farrell55]

True leaks are always true at a certain time and circumstances.

Today, 9.2TF, is the only thing that PS5 does not have.

Now is at puberty.

R600 would Call you a Liar

Thanks for clearing things up

 

[demigod]

Win what? He said February reveal for PS5. Its fucking March and nothing happened so again, what did he get right or 'win'?

Plans changed due to Coronavirus. Are you going to call everyone else liars that said they were going to GDC and now suddenly nobody is?

 

[TLZ]

JAMMA is just trolling us. Just ignore hir.

I have a strong feeling he's TimDog.

 

[TherapistGaymer]

I mean it's not exactly confirmation until sony official does confirm it but it's an hint for what's to come.



Because it benefits them. People have been saying PS5 is 9 TF for months now, if they present a console more powerful than that people will be more pleased. The only downside is if in fact they have a 9 TF console.

So that's not confirmation but 9TF is? I give up. I'm going to go spend some money, get outside, anything besides be reminded of how crazy this all is. It states it from AMD. RDNA 2. Both consoles. Have a good day man

 

[VanSiriusGabriel]

Damn, Coronavirus is back with a vengeance, almost 600 cases in Italy alone today.

No surprise, it's not gonna stand down, we can't contain the flu we can't contain this, but it's not seriously deadly especially on long term when I guess doctors will learn more. Economic stuff is what concern me more.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

I see the "dark tower" is this gen's vapor chamber".

What else would it be? How do you plan on properly cooling hardware and keeping noise down for something that is roughly 3x more powerful than the Xbox One X overall with only a 1.25x efficiency uplift in roughly the same overall space as it?

You have to get smart with the form factor, you have to focus on uninterrupted inbound and outbound airflow, you have to do the unconventional.

 

[Evilms]

Quick q: Did the Xbox Series X Media Briefing "leak" actually come from the official Xbox website?

source ?

 

[01011001]

Quick q: Did the Xbox Series X Media Briefing "leak" actually come from the official Xbox website?

isn't that a confirmed fake? there was a similar one recently that was confirmed to be fake

 

[Jonsoncao]

A significant portion of posters in this thread are gonna look like retard(s) after the PS5 reveal:

either
(1) PS5 is much more powerful than XSX (people claiming PS5 is 9.2 TF are gonna look like retard(s)).
(2) PS5 is much less powerful than XSX (people claiming PS5 is 13 TF+ are gonna look like retard(s)).

A sensible prediction for not being regarded as retards post-PS5 reveal:
(3) PS5's power is on par with XSX.
(4) Not jumping on any prediction train until the reveal.

EDIT: pardon my grammar.

 

[Disco_]

All right thanks to clear this up. Always thought special sauce is HW related not SW. So we can really expect to see almost identical HW on both consoles. Which is awesome for developers but a bit boring too

It would be boring.

What else would it be? How do you plan on properly cooling hardware and keeping noise down for something that is roughly 3x more powerful than the Xbox One X overall with only a 1.25x efficiency uplift in roughly the same overall space as it?

You have to get smart with the form factor, you have to focus on uninterrupted inbound and outbound airflow, you have to do the unconventional.

Unconventional in the console world, sure. The design of the xsx is pretty damn smart and cheap, and that's really all it is. By getting rid of the console look you free yourself from the constraints that go with it.
If we look at the pube leak, we can tell "uninterrupted inbound airflow" should be a concern.

The point of my post is that those who blew the "exotic" vapor chamber cooling out of proportion seem to be doing the same with the form factor.