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I agree, why does he even care what fanboys say...
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saintjules
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I know he had a podcast episode talking about predictions that were not based off rumors. Can't remember much about that, but he did mention in the December podcast that PS5 will have "PS5 only" titles among the 3rd party games. Podcast can't be accessed but here's a Reddit link talking about it:
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Agnostic2020
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no he never said that . thats klee and not jason. he said extremely close
DeepEnigma
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Cause he's fragile.
On a side note...
How could you read their apologies when you block anyone with a dissenting opinion, Creier?
SacredDivinity
Neo Member
It is good that pc master racers see what they are missing
zubairali2
Member
horizon zero dawn on PC is a big win. how can that be a bad thing?
ethomaz
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100% true.
David Ricardo
Member
Why are you insulting Jason Schreier who isn't even posting here? This kind of attitude is what keeps insiders off this forum.
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
Extremely close you say... over 10.7 and 1080 super territory...
Interesting, wouldn't you agree...?
Interesting, wouldn't you agree...?
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DeepEnigma
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He was part of the chain gang that left for Ree. I am sure he will never come back, nor do I care. He needs to grow a spine instead of trolling people with tweets, only to block them like a pussyboy.
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ethomaz
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+1 for Jason's flawless track record
I will post my guesses from the other thread.
The article read like they are trying to shows what you can play on PlayStation only to PC players.
They will probably announce HZD sequel for PS5 near the PC port of first game release.
Marketing push for new players.
They will probably do that with others sequels like Spider-man 1 releasing on PC near Spider-Man 2 for PS5.
Work like free game push on PS+ when the sequel is near release but this time for PC players.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
He said both consoles were aiming to beat Stadia's 10.7 tflops number in March.
In December, he said both consoles were more powerful than the 2080 because they were trying to future proof this gen's consoles.
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Some people have the reasoning that you only buy consoles for exclusives, otherwise you would use a PC. Since Microsoft already releases everything on PC, Playstation was the only platform with actual exclusives. If they are now also being released on PC, people that really care about that exclusivity now suddenly only have to buy a PC, which they already had. So not sure why they care about it, but for gamers that don't play the console wars this is always a win.
Reindeer
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That's all fine and dandy, but this kind of logic shouldn't apply to games that are years old and are basically being given away for free at this point.
David Ricardo
Member
Maybe you should treat him with a minimum amount of respect so you leave the door open for him to come back here when/if he eventually realizes the guys running that forum are not the good/nice samaritans they pretend to be.
ethomaz
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Maybe related to the work they did for Death Strading for PC?
Agnostic2020
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yea 11 to 12.6 is the safe bet i feel.
Bo_Hazem
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Oprah: "You get a tower, you get a tower, everybody gets TOWERRRSSS."
Sony is an alpha, followed, but never follows.
Bo_Hazem
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I would say headsets are superior to any sound system, yet you don't annoy anybody. Consider them
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It should never apply... Games without exclusivity is best for gamers. Even if those games would be available on PC I would still buy the PS5 or XSX. And I don't think Sony and Microsoft care either, since they still sold software or services on which they make the most money.
DeepEnigma
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Sure, when he stops shitting on gamers overall with his clickbait ideological pushing agenda every other month from his outfit.
You are naive if you think he does not know and has not been a part of them for some time over there.
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Ok, Horizon Zero Dawn confirmed for PC by official Playstation Blog:
blog.eu.playstation.com
Hermen Hulst Q&A: Interview with Head of PlayStation’s Worldwide Studios
What's next for Guerrilla, upcoming TV and film projects, and the guiding principles that drive PlayStation’s network of world-class game studios
blog.eu.playstation.com
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Neo Blaster
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Man, one more time Jason was spot on.
DeadOblivion78
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Smart strategy by releasing HZD on pc right now. When the sequel comes out, more people will be exposed to the first game and I bet you the sequel is PS5 only.
Gediminas
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they will lower some of their sales by doing that. a lot of people could assume that PS games coming to PC and hold on buying the games, consoles, less PSN+ . plus, it is like house of cards, especially with PSN+, they rake huge money from that, so less consoles, less games, less subscription. i don't see how it is good thing in the long run for other games and system. perception of exclusives is very strong on PS system. they don't want to plant a doubt seed in people's mind.
Bo_Hazem
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Who you telling 800 was always my limit. But want something good for this gen to make most of the new consoles
You might find something with that budget that will satisfy you. Paying too much doesn't always translate to better value for your usage. Keep an eye for TCL, Sony XH90, and Vizio on Black Friday.
ethomaz
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Man some truth from his articles/tweets really did hurt your feelings
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Neo Blaster
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Helmen confirmed no day and date releases on PC, so I'm fine with exclusives going to PC after a few years.
DeepEnigma
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Man some truth for his article really did hurt your feelings
Huh? Has nothing to do with the article. Has to do with how he talk shit, then blocks people.
I never even played the game.
And here is my comment on it:
Horizon: Zero Dawn confirmed for PC
Herman Hulst in an interview about PS games on PC: "I think it's important that we stay open to new ideas of how to introduce more people to PlayStation, and show people maybe what they've been missing out on," he said. "And to maybe put a few minds at ease, releasing one first-party AAA title...
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ethomaz
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Bo_Hazem
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Seen that, but from people I know one guy got bad burn-ins withing 3 months, a shop is avoiding LG OLED's and said Sony's are still better "funny that all OLED's are sold by LG Panel branch". I have ZERO trust in OLED's, and 100000% will get burn-ins withing few months. That test can be thrown in the nearest trash with all due respect.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
You can change to his tweets
I don't use that platform. I have someone a sense of sanity.
Anyways, I said what I said. And I stand by what I said.
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Reindeer
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I personally think first party games should have 1 year exclusivity to make console purchase justified, but after that sales are usually extremely low and it would make a lot more sense to make it available to wider crowd by releasing on PC while it still relatively fresh. This could also entice PC gamers to buy a console to play sequels to these games or other high quality first party games.
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Bo_Hazem
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Would say watch reviews, they don't pass the US border so I can't comment on them but they look promising.
ethomaz
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So how did he hurt your feelings?
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DeepEnigma
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You are one to talk. We are derailing this enough so stop trying to poke, and go get your good boy biscuit from him.
HawarMiran
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It's a different business model, and you might be correct that for Playstation specifically it's a less lucrative option. For Microsoft it's different because they are able to sell way more other stuff due to the PC environment.
Personally I don't need that justification, because I don't like PC gaming. Even plugging a PC into your TV and then sitting on the couch is a whole different experience. From OS, updates, to the whole environment. Plug&play is easiest for me.
Neo Blaster
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Except they are not releasing day and date on PC, nor confirmed all of them will eventually. If people are willing to wait an undetermined amount of time for a title that may or may not release on PC, then I don't think they are that invested on that game at all.
Bo_Hazem
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It's not like the guys who had burn-ins were using it as a surfing board, but it's a big matter of long sessions. If you don't do that then I think you'll be fine, as you are now
You Scouser!
ethomaz
Banned
You are salty about a guy you never read anything from him?
Because he is the complete opposite of what you say... he is direct and only tell you the info the are reliable.... his opinion are based in actual info and not guesses.
You can not like what he says but that not make him a bad person like you dream he is.
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DeepEnigma
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What are you fucking talking about?
I am well versed who he is. Stop quoting me like a groupie.
Audiophile
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I honestly think it's luck of the draw. I have a LG C7 55" OLED that I got 18 months ago and the YouTube app has totally ruined it.
I was aware upfront that static yellow/red elements on the screen can be problematic and I've always been incredibly vigilant about any being left on screen for more than a a minute, plus the screensaver is permanently on of course.
It hasn't suffered burn-in from prolonged individual periods of exposure due to carelessness but premature aging of the red/green sub-pixels (ironically not the blue) from brief, repeated exposures over a long period of time. Thankfully I don't have any games with major yellow/red ui elements, if I had, I'm certain it would have caused further, severe issues on this display. Pixel shift only effects the outer 1-2px of the ui elements in question and the refresher doesn't do anything for this.
I've been on to LG and tried communicating with YouTube about the issues, expressing that there shouldn't be an app built in to an OLED TV with static UI elements in yellow/red and that for OLED models they should be modified to monochromatic or alternate colour designs. Even some of the native LG UI has started to cause issues and that's barely ever on screen.
As much as I love the incredibly natural look and deep blacks of OLED, I may have to go back to a higher end LCD until MicroLED comes along. Though I may consider a CX if burn-in is much improved.
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Seems like a good move for Sony.
Horizon won't be shifting notable amounts of units anymore. PS4 is almost over. A lot of basic engine work is done, thanks to Death Stranding.
It's hard for me to see where making a bunch of money off of PC gamers, for likely little overhead, is a bad thing.
If Sony sets the expectation that all their content will be available on PC, months or a year later, sure. The only expectation set here, though, is that PC might get a couple of PS5 exclusives in close to 2030.
We'll have to see the situation develops, but Sony seems to be very much pushing it's consoles first and foremost, cognizant of their exclusives as a selling point.
Horizon won't be shifting notable amounts of units anymore. PS4 is almost over. A lot of basic engine work is done, thanks to Death Stranding.
It's hard for me to see where making a bunch of money off of PC gamers, for likely little overhead, is a bad thing.
If Sony sets the expectation that all their content will be available on PC, months or a year later, sure. The only expectation set here, though, is that PC might get a couple of PS5 exclusives in close to 2030.
We'll have to see the situation develops, but Sony seems to be very much pushing it's consoles first and foremost, cognizant of their exclusives as a selling point.
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
It's not like the guys who had burn-ins were using it as a surfing board, but it's a big matter of long sessions. If you don't do that then I think you'll be fine, as you are now
SCOUSER?! How bloody dare you!
But no, I've seen some people cock things up really easily with OLEDs, and there IS a bit of a panel lottery (well there is with a lot of other tech too). But use them well, and they will last you.
I'm just waiting on a decent 120hrz 75" set to appear so I can replace this.
Now, a counter point:
I have an iPhone X and that has the keyboard burnt into the bottoms of the screen. Annoying to say the least.
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ethomaz
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So he did hurt your feeling lol
David Ricardo
Member
I just think you are making the same mistake they do there, thinking they have the absolute truth and being an asshole to people who think differently.
DeepEnigma
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No, but you're starting to annoy me. Amazing how quickly you turn on people based on your ideological cuntery.
I can agree with this. I concede.
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