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[Smoke6]

This makes much more sense from a marketing standpoint than Sony panicking behind the scenes and scrambling to try and figure out how to save themselves this coming gen. Microsoft has been very up front about everything involving the Series X and has put Sony in a weird place with gamers at the moment, so them taking their time to make sure they absolutely nail a reveal event makes much more sense.

Sony is far from a "bad light" right now trust and believe! Wish people would stop the Sony doom and gloom narratives because they're no doing what MS is doing!

if you were trying gain mindshare after the disaster of the 1X reveal, then this is how you would go about it! It's basically cleanup just as Sony did with there PS3 get a second job!

 

[Panajev2001a]

Dictator

Ok, so shit they are organising... pathetic...

 

[Fake]

Is this the speculation on drama thread?

Depends what fit your needs.

 

[MonkeyPunch]

i see proelite is still spewing shit in the other thread

 

[Krisprolls]

And dictator (Alex Battaglia) is among them according to your screenshot. So much for DF being unbiased. That's pretty sad.

Now I remember DF were considered MS shills at the start of the PS3 era...

 

[44alltheway]

Dictator

oh shit hes actually in it

 

[MonkeyPunch]

 

[Gudji]

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Not that I honestly care because the differences in power aren't really worth mentioning, but it would be hilarious if PS5 ends up benchmarking better on third party titles given how insanely fixated that Xbox discord is on teraflop power

looks like they're already setting up the narrative that Sony is buying third parties off if that's the case lmao. These people are batshit

 

[Gudji]

 

[Barakov]

IMAGINE being this invested in the console war. These people have the rest of the internet licked.

 

[Krisprolls]

They're so crazy. It's especially ridiculous when you consider the absolute worst case scenario with this small potential gap is games may be 1900p+ with dynamic resolution on PS5 and 2160p on XSX, which means nobody will be able to see the difference unless zoomed 10x on a comparison video.

You'd think with diminishing returns people would fight less on pixels but no... Pics will now look exactly the same between PC / PS5 / XSX... And so will FPS very soon.

People rightfully buy Sony consoles because of their exclusives, not to gain 1 invisible pixel somewhere.

 

[SlimySnake]

Dictator

you think it's just 1? c'mon son
How does 1 mod stop any of this from having any consequences? Think of the "policies that era was built on" and the supposed reasons for splitting off and think of how something like this would be looked upon?

oh shit. im pretty sure im getting perma'd during my 3 week ban lol.

 

[01011001]

They're so crazy. It's especially ridiculous when you consider the absolute worst case scenario with this small potential gap is games may be 1900p+ with dynamic resolution on PS5 and 2160p on XSX, which means nobody will be able to see the difference unless zoomed 10x on a comparison video.

which is what I was saying all along even back when the github leak suggested 9.2TF, and now it's even closer.
what could make a big difference is the Raytracing performance tho, that's where Microsoft could have a huge advantage.

 

[Smoke6]

I'm saying that if there weren't cooling limitations they wouldn't have to use SmartShift to try and boost performance. The PS5 is being handled like a laptop.

Just...just stop it man!

like when is this shit gonna stop? It's cool to speculate and all but my damn dog knows more about this shot than you so gloomy!

I'm quite sure you'll be sining a different tune when everything is unveiled as y'all said the same shit about the PS4 and it's LAPTOP CPU!

and we all know how that turned into the games !

 

[Barakov]

Haha. They're going out of their way to spread fud because they're afraid people are talking about the PS5 too much.

 

[MasterCornholio]

IMAGINE being this invested in the console war. These people have the rest of the internet licked.

Oh my. It's like reading the script for a play set in an insane asylum. Some of those people are seriously messed up.

O.O

 

[Smoke6]

Horizon: Zero Dawn sales pass 10 million two years after launch

Sony and developer Guerrilla Games announced today that the open-world Horizon: Zero Dawn has now sold over 10 million copies worldwide.

venturebeat.com

And that's SOLD physical digital copies, not that game pass shit either! Which I think is gonna backfire on them sooner or later

 

[SlimySnake]

looks like they're already setting up the narrative that Sony is buying third parties off if that's the case lmao. These people are batshit

i noticed that too. they would know about platform parity. MS actually did this at the start of this gen. i remember a couple of ubisoft titles shipping at the same res and framerate. there was some outcry and they patched black flag to hit 1080p later.

they are projecting.

i love how dictator was crying about being harassed just yesterday while he lets these assholes talk shit about a fellow journalist.

in fact, all of these guys descended upon the thread last night after brad sams was criticized for saying the ps5 ssd speeds were a lie. they got everyone banned for disrespecting journalists even though nothing of that sort happened. meanwhile they were saying all this shit here behind jason's backs. at least the era users were being open about their criticisms.

 

[01011001]

And that's SOLD physical digital copies, not that game pass shit either! Which I think is gonna backfire on them sooner or later

flagship console exclusive sells a lot... crazy.
Halo 5 sold 5mio units as of 2016 (not sure how high it is now) on a system with less than half the install base... of the PS4.

 

[FranXico]

glad that Dictator was able to clarify that GitHub was accurate

PS5 is 1.8-2.0Ghz

RDNA1

no RT

right all along, Dictator! Just like SSD won't have an impact on open world games

36CUs and memory bandwidth were correct. The rest changed in the meantime.

 

[Gudji]

i noticed that too. they would know about platform parity. MS actually did this at the start of this gen. i remember a couple of ubisoft titles shipping at the same res and framerate. there was some outcry and they patched black flag to hit 1080p later.

they are projecting.

i love how dictator was crying about being harassed just yesterday while he lets these assholes talk shit about a fellow journalist.

in fact, all of these guys descended upon the thread last night after brad sams was criticized for saying the ps5 ssd speeds were a lie. they got everyone banned for disrespecting journalists even though nothing of that sort happened. meanwhile they were saying all this shit here behind jason's backs. at least the era users were being open about their criticisms.

Keep in mind not all the screens you see are in chronological order. Also dictator only recently joined the circus.

 

[icerock]

Not that I honestly care because the differences in power aren't really worth mentioning, but it would be hilarious if PS5 ends up benchmarking better on third party titles given how insanely fixated that Xbox discord is on teraflop power

looks like they're already setting up the narrative that Sony is buying third parties off if that's the case lmao. These people are batshit

With cross-gen games, there could be a scenario where both look identical (hence 'Balls' sounding the troops about Sony enforcing some sort of parity clause) but Series X has the raw compute advantage which should push better frames and IQ over time.

I'm mostly intrigued by when FP stuff is shown by both parties over the course of summer, no matter how much money MS throw at these devs. Having to cater to 2013 potatoes will bring their games down. There is a reason Phil Spencer rocked up to TGA with footage of HellBlade 2 and not cross-gen games like next Forza and Halo.

Sony don't have to worry about this, at least on FP front. There's an opening for them to kick-start this with footage of next Horizon/Spider-Man.

Bet this idiot will change his tune once HellBlade 2 drops in 2022?

 

[01011001]

glad that Dictator was able to clarify that GitHub was accurate

PS5 is 1.8-2.0Ghz

RDNA1

no RT

right all along, Dictator! Just like SSD won't have an impact on open world games

the Github leak was 100% accurate, it was just not the latest version of the SOC that we had data on.
but every sony fanboy denied the github chip to be accurate and was hyped for a 13TF console because they couldn't believe Sony would use a 36CU chip

 

[farmerboy]

Haha. They're going out of their way to spread fud because they're afraid people are talking about the PS5 too much.

It'd be funny, if it wasn't so sad.

 

[Krisprolls]

glad that Dictator was able to clarify that GitHub was accurate

PS5 is 1.8-2.0Ghz

RDNA1

no RT

right all along, Dictator! Just like SSD won't have an impact on open world games

Lol. I guess we can't rely too much on DF for a fair comparison...

 

[bitbydeath]

36CUs and memory bandwidth were correct. The rest changed in the meantime.

The wired articles pointed all those changes out early 2019.

 

[01011001]

And dictator (Alex Battaglia) is among them according to your screenshot. So much for DF being unbiased. That's pretty sad.

Now I remember DF were considered MS shills at the start of the PS3 era...

why? because they said the PS3 was shit in the start of its generation? because it objectively was an absolutely awful place to play any multiplatform game on for more than 2years.

 

[Gudji]

the Github leak was 100% accurate, it was just not the latest version of the SOC that we had data on.
but every sony fanboy denied the github chip to be accurate and was hyped for a 13TF console because they couldn't believe Sony would use a 36CU chip

Github leak was 100% accurate OR just not the lastest version of the SoC

Pick one.

 

[Fake]

the Github leak was 100% accurate, it was just not the latest version of the SOC that we had data on.
but every sony fanboy denied the github chip to be accurate and was hyped for a 13TF console because they couldn't believe Sony would use a 36CU chip

Nice neutral take.

 

[Krisprolls]

the Github leak was 100% accurate, it was just not the latest version of the SOC that we had data on.
but every sony fanboy denied the github chip to be accurate and was hyped for a 13TF console because they couldn't believe Sony would use a 36CU chip

Well, none of the above was true, so I'd say it was more "wrong" than "accurate". Unless the definition of accurate changed.

 

[01011001]

Github leak was 100% accurate OR just not the lastest version of the SoC

Pick one.

the leak depicted a chip that was used for a PS5 dev kit. it had revisions over the months but we didn't have details on them
the fact remained tho that this chip was the PS5 target, and that target didn't change much over time, all that really changed was an upgrade to RDNA2 and an overclock

 

[Smoke6]

The reason I brought up the selling is, because Cerny has a financial stake in what he tells you. I do not. It is his job to hide or downplay the weaknesses of the PS5 and play to its strengths. I do not have that.

If you want to buy a PS5, that's your choice. As of right now, MS has given the better impression with the XSX. They have shown multiple things. Simple, understandable things.
Sony on the other hand has created a shitstorm with all the talk and little showing of things. The technological aspects are interesting, but the PS5 can only beat the XSX in one thing; loading times. Whether you care or not is up to you. After all, many people find the PS games superior. And that is perfectly fine and justifiable to go for a PS5 instead of the XSX. But if you're going to get a console for the multiplats, the XSX is simply the way to go. Assuming of course, you don't care about BC etc. There are many variables, and everyone needs to decide for themselves what the best console is for their own use.

You're an asshat dude!

like your fanboyism comes out in every post man and it's getting old. That's great that simple system is what you desire!

move along, I don't think it's anything else you could say or do now!

 

[Garjon]

I hope he's got a 3080 on pre-order...

 

[Krisprolls]

why? because they said the PS3 was shit in the start of its generation? because it objectively was an absolutely awful place to play any multiplatform game on for more than 2years.

Sure, but IIRC they made multiple highly suspicious videos even long after PS3 release, when things got better for PS3. Richard Leadbetter was considered as a MS fanboy too at that time.

Now we have confirmation Dictator is on this shitty fanboy discord, I don't think we need more proof they can't be trusted.

 

[EliteSmurf]

the Github leak was 100% accurate, it was just not the latest version of the SOC that we had data on.
but every sony fanboy denied the github chip to be accurate and was hyped for a 13TF console because they couldn't believe Sony would use a 36CU chip

Absolutely some people went overboard and got hyped for a 13TF console . But some people took the GitHub leaks as the final stuff and to this day maintain the stance the PS5 is 9.2TF . The only user I saw who believed GitHub yet thought it was outdated and didn't go batshit crazy with 13.8 TF predictions was thicc_girls_are_teh_best .

 

[Gudji]

They made multiple highly suspicious videos even long after PS3 release, when things got better for PS3.

Now we have confirmation Dictator is on this shitty fanboy discord, I don't think we need more proof they can't be trusted.

Nah, Richard and the other guy (Dark1X) are still cool and you can actually see their enthusiasm when talking about PS5 details. Alex on the other hand has made it very clear that he is not a playstation fan, so don't expect him saying good stuff.

 

[Gudji]

Absolutely some people went overboard and got hyped for a 13TF console . But some people took the GitHub leaks as the final stuff and to this day maintain the stance the PS5 is 9.2TF . The only user I saw who believed GitHub yet thought it was outdated and didn't go batshit crazy with 13.8 TF predictions was thicc_girls_are_teh_best .

Well then you need to see more, because afaik most people here were expecting a 11-12 TF machine. I myself told the minimum to expect was 10.25 and guess what? I was not wrong.
I was expecting an 11 TF machine though, but it's okay, it's still going to be a great console. The SSD is bonkers and 1st party will make mindblowing stuff with it.

 

[Krisprolls]

Nah, Richard and the other guy (Dark1X) are still cool and you can actually see their enthusiasm when talking about PS5 details. Alex on the other hand has made it very clear that he is not a playstation fan, so don't expect him saying good stuff.

Which is kinda problematic when you make comparison videos for a living.

 

[SlimySnake]

Nah, Richard and the other guy (Dark1X) are still cool and you can actually see their enthusiasm when talking about PS5 details. Alex on the other hand has made it very clear that he is not a playstation fan, so don't expect him saying good stuff.

yeah, richard and dark are fine.

i rewatched their df direct on the second wired article where mark cerny confirmed hardware rt, and Alex made it seem like it was only going to be ray traced shadows and AO because ray tracing is too expensive for consoles.

 

[EliteSmurf]

Well then you need to see more, because afaik most people here were expecting a 11-12 TF machine. I myself told the minimum to expect was 10.25 and guess what? I was not wrong.
I was expecting an 11 TF machine though, but it's okay, it's still going to be a great console. The SSD is bonkers and 1st party will make mindblowing stuff with it.

Yeah which is why I said 'some' people believed it and that was only because Fisher boy somehow got the XBOX Series X specs spot on so people just assumed his 13.3TF PS5 specs were real as well.

 

[Fake]

Which is kinda problematic when you make comparison videos for a living.

I guess Alex never made one... Only John, Rich and Tom.

 

[SonGoku]

Most likely not real, but wouldn't that be something!

Now a somebody is saying they're hearing the same thing? Any devs here on GAF? Real devs? Anyone else heard such things?

I know this user is banned but cmonbruh how can this obvious fanboy fantasy be taken seriously? Its an obvious fake/troll with so many glaring holes

 

[icerock]

yeah, richard and dark are fine.

i rewatched their df direct on the second wired article where mark cerny confirmed hardware rt, and Alex made it seem like it was only going to be ray traced shadows and AO because ray tracing is too expensive for consoles.

Dictator isn't worth listening to when it comes to hardware, he's been skeptical about consoles from get-go. First PS5 DF direct which they did, he flat out said that there won't be hardware based RT. Followed it up another one of his lavish predictions in 2nd PS5 DF direct. After seeing how he was schooled by a former ND dev and then backtracking on SSD, I'm convinced he knows even less that I initially thought.

Anyways, been hell of a day. Thanks for the entertainment gents, you know who you are. Here is to you.

 

[Insane Metal]

I guess we can expect RT on both consoles to be quite gimped compared to PC versions, kinda like HBAO has been so far. And yes I believe XSX will still have an advantage there.

 

[SlimySnake]

I guess we can expect RT on both consoles to be quite gimped compared to PC versions, kinda like HBAO has been so far. And yes I believe XSX will still have an advantage there.

what? where is this coming from?

the metro devs said they are going full rt for their next game. for both consoles. everything from GI, to reflections and shadows is RT.

Cerny himself talked about being bullish on the potential of ray tracing in ps5. he has seen a game with complex animations running RT reflections easily.

 

[Insane Metal]

what? where is this coming from?

the metro devs said they are going full rt for their next game. for both consoles. everything from GI, to reflections and shadows is RT.

Cerny himself talked about being bullish on the potential of ray tracing in ps5. he has seen a game with complex animations running RT reflections easily.

I have a really hard time believing that. Maybe in the beginning of the gen, yes, but once we get Big Navi and Ampere these consoles will be so much behind that it's not even funny.

 

[BattleScar]

What the shit is going on?
That discord server is a massive circlejerk.

 

[Krisprolls]

I have a really hard time believing that. Maybe in the beginning of the gen, yes, but once we get Big Navi and Ampere these consoles will be so much behind that it's not even funny.

Ampere will cost a lot more than the whole XSX or PS5. Apples and oranges. PCs aren't good value anymore at all right now compared to next gen consoles.

 

[Vroadstar]

Reading all these batshit crazy X fans so invested in their console it's not too far fetched a lot of them are here as well, Heck we already have multiple alt accounts of X fans (fan) being banned left and right. 7 years of repressed emotions definitely do a number on these X fans so sad.