To be clear, no one but Tom Warren said 12, and Tom seems to have extrapolated that from Phil saying twice as powerful as X. Think we jumped the gun on that in excitement yesterday.
12Tflops on RDNA would be 2.5-3x as powerful as X (senior). I'm gonna guess it's around 10 paper Tflops, which would bring it to 2x as powerful.
I know that, (and there are already other 'gaming' sites claiming that Phil confirmed doble XoneX 12tf) but i was referring to the people in this thread that are doing the same, and doing mental gimnastics to justify why Phil only said doble the power/but is 12tf RDNA, just read back and enjoy
I think Phil just understand GPU with 12TF power means always 12TF no matter with architecture. Of course more efficient architecture can do the same task faster, but that's not what casuals will think about..
We can use cars analogy here. 100km/h is always 100km/h no matter what car it's, and the same can be said about TFLOPS. However certain cars will accelerate and turn faster, therefore will finish the race quicker.
XboXSeX is 12TF (RDNA 1.5-2 because VRS was mentioned, and that's something first gen Navi dont support) and there's no reason to think windows central leak wasnt accurate.
I think you are wrong there _ Phil knows exactly what he can say right now (he doesn't give away CPU or GPU clocks, CU count, Tflops, that's all for later) of course he is inside all that stuff with the engineering team. And what does he specifically mention? Power in general, how much one GPU is more powerful than the other _ how much faster the new X is going to get to 100km/h (by your analogy), no horse power numbers, valves, no engine cylinder capacity,... all the stuff inside the engine that gets you there.
And about Windows Central leak, SX GPU being less than 12tf doesn't make it inaccurate, they specifically said 12tf target specs, and even
XcloudTimdog
confirmed it, that it can be a lower number, some time after (don't remember if it was this thread or the other).
Sorry for the long wall of text, but I'm not a native English speaker and it's a bit hard to translate and write my thoughts lol
I'm thinking of a number between 13 & 15
What are you talking about onQ? Are you teasing or have real Intel?