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saintjules
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For those trying to pre-order a Series X...It's to the point that you need scripts/chrome web extensions to beat the site's system to order.
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Md Ray
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Why the RTX 3080 Isn't as Amazing @ 1440p, CPU or Architectural Bottleneck?
I was watching HUB's latest vid and it's interesting to see how the Ampere isn't as good at resolution scaling as Turing is. Around 8:56 mark (timestamped above), he says:
I was watching HUB's latest vid and it's interesting to see how the Ampere isn't as good at resolution scaling as Turing is. Around 8:56 mark (timestamped above), he says:
Which reminds me of what Mark Cerny said during his PS5 deep-dive:
Yes, he was talking about AMD's RDNA 2 architecture. But it makes me wonder what if it's true in general for high core count GPUs? Just speculating.
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SportsFan581
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Did i say something wrong
Yes, you did not bow before the fudd master, it is only I who should be allowed to spread
Seriously, I was just asking you a follow up to see if there was any legitimate/verifiable reports of overheating or if this was all never-never land silliness at this point.
funking giblet
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It's true in general for any type of distributed work. It's hard because the work needs to be parallelizable., which in GPUs is generally true, but not for every single thing. SIMD works due to the fact that all instructions are executed in lock-step, so no waiting or locking is needed, but not everything is appropriate for that, sometimes you need to coordinate jobs, which is hard and requires locking, waiting, spinning, and a lot of work to keep it all in sync. It's easier for developers to reason about a large single pipeline than 100's. Tools are getting better so the developer can throw a bunch of tasks and it will work everything out, but when the developer needs to take more control, it becomes difficult.
Here's a description of different attributes some architectures use in multi-processor development.
Flynn's taxonomy - Wikipedia
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Deleted member 775630
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On the XSX heat "issue". No issue at all apparently.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Why do they keep pointing out "preview units"?
These are retail units.. if they aren't.. WTF are MS doing?
ethomaz
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I said before but I believe more people will migrate from Xbox to PS5 this new gen due how weak delivering MS is having for over a decade already.The UK’s largest electrical retailer recorded record-breaking sales for the recent PlayStation 5 (PS5) pre-order, as the coveted console sold out in just 10 minutes and recorded nearly 90,000 more pre-registrations than Xbox.
Currys PC World’s new research reveals that nine in 10 (88 per cent) of existing PlayStation owners, and 68 per cent of existing Xbox owners have.
the links is in the twitter, when click on it
PlayStation 5 beats Xbox in first round of pre-orders battle at Currys PC World
The electrical giant recorded nearly 90 000 more pre-registrations for the PS5 than Xboxwww.dailyrecord.co.uk
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Garani
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Don't worry about it: you are not the only non-english speaker. We are in good company a lot of us.
Md Ray
Member
Most people talk about the new SSDs or PS5 SSD but what I understood that the SSDs will always get faster in future, on the other hand the heavily custom flash control on PS5 actual is the key here "secret sauce". and that what was Andrea Pessino was talking about back in March. also rumours saying the PS5 GPU is DRNA 3 OR have some features take it with " grain of salt".
"PlayStation 5 is one of the most revolutionary, inspired home consoles ever designed"
rumours saying the PS5 GPU is DRNA 3
DRNA 3
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GreyHand23
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No one reasonable ever said it was loud so the question was flawed to begin with. I personally don't think the heat is an issue, but it could explain why they've decided to stay with such low clocks. They'd likely have to increase fan speed or create a bigger enclosure if they had wanted to go with higher clocks.
Tripolygon
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Worth a thread so i created one for you.
Experience PS5’s Tempest 3D AudioTech with compatible headsets at launch, TV Virtual Surround Sound coming after launch
Experience 3D audio in games like Demon's Souls, Resident Evil Village, Gran Turismo 7, Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart, and more.blog.playstation.com
Some of the PS5 games with 3D Audio features include Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales, Marvel’s Spider-Man Remastered, Astro’s Playroom, Gran Turismo 7, Returnal, Destruction AllStars, Demon’s Souls, Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart, Sackboy: A Big Adventure, Horizon Forbidden West, Resident Evil Village, and many others.
Experience 3D audio on PS5
There is some confusion on how 3D audio will work and if you need the new Sony PlayStation Pulse headphones to experience it. The upcoming Pulse 3D wireless headset has been engineered to take full advantage of PS5’s 3D Audio capabilities (check out a new image above). With a refined design...
Bo_Hazem
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NeoGAF October Gif and Meme Contest. Winner gets Gold.
Welcome to the NeoGAF Gif and Meme Contest for the Month of October. To see last months contest, click HERE!!! It was a great month. We had many incredible submissions from @SLoWMoTIoN @locoghoul @Kamill @Chiggs @VanEs @freefornow an of course strong showings by many past winners @Lupin3...
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Sorry, it's your original art work with some modifications! Got it from other source so didn't notice your post as I was lagging behind
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funking giblet
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I mean, getting heat out of a system is what good cooling does? The heat goes into your room.
Wraith Phantom
Member
Alright. Who was writing the PS5 FUD list? Need to recheck that list.
Everything about that list was really about XSX.
RDNA1.5
NO RT
Overheating
No games ready
Rest of the goofy shit.
It really is the XSX that has all these issues. What a turn of events.
Everything about that list was really about XSX.
RDNA1.5
NO RT
Overheating
No games ready
Rest of the goofy shit.
It really is the XSX that has all these issues. What a turn of events.
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HeisenbergFX4
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ethomaz
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Now it seems to be a issue reading that green guy saying it is preview unit.... he tried to do damage control.
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SportsFan581
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Is this right, so the heat people are talking about isn't even from the shell but just about the air venting out?
If the body is cool with this design I guess they have a great CFM rating on the fan. I'd assume that the PSU and heatsink would push heat to the case just based on proximity.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
yeah, this thing was done way back in December when Phil said he took it home. Then DF and others literally picked it apart and put it back together in March. These are the final units and there is not a goddamn thing they can do to fix it other than changing the vapor chamber cooling system or changing the fans.
And lets not forget that they have only been running backward compatibility games on it that are not using the full power of the GPU or CPU. if i had to guess they are running at half power.
I also find it funny that after literally a year of rumors about the PS5 running hot, its actually the xbox series x. First it was no RT and now PS5 has more games with RT and MS is literally shipping DMCV with no RT. Then PS5 being RDNA 1.0 and then we find out the XSX GPU architecture is literally identical to the 5700xt. These guys project more than Trump.
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LucidFlux
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I wonder if the large SRAM in the PS5's I/O complex is related to RDNA 2's Infinity Cache
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Deleted member 775630
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What damage control? Pointing out that the device is a preview unit? He's saying: It's not hot, and it's a preview unit => nothing to worry about
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
XBox has SRAM in there too. its not in the GPU.I wonder if the large SRAM in the PS5's I/O complex is related to RDNA 2's Infinity Cache
Zoro7
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Thats a good point. So we know its running hot (not an issue) but the consoles are only running BC games. So if you was to push it to the max....then how hot would it get?
ethomaz
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He tried to give excuses why it is hot... and he clearly said it is hot.
Seem how he did the opposite to the loud because it is really a quiet machine.
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SportsFan581
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What's the RT performance like on the 5700XT, I was thinking I was going to have to wait for the RDNA2 units to see some benchmarks?
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Deleted member 775630
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Not surprised that you see this is an excuse, you're probably very worried for the console and their users?
It's not overheating, and the heat coming from it is like a PC. So again, that's just nothing...
THE:MILKMAN
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The only difference is the sticker on the back I'm sure. Notice how the big outlets get the "retail" units but the YouTubers/Influencers get the "prototype" units. It is a smart CYA move giving the Youtubers the 'prototypes' if any failures occur. Microsoft can just point that out if anything happens.
Lysandros
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XSX has SRAM in its I/O?...
ethomaz
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Yeap... like we have dozen of pages of the issue and I posted every single time lol
Nowcry
Member
I would like to propose you to read this quite good article despite coming from WCCFTERCH.
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-rtx-30-...e-curious-case-of-missing-gaming-performance/
SportsFan581
Member
This! If the vortex design of the system is really doing its thing and almost all heat is being pushed from the box as quickly as it is generated, that's a great thing for system longevity. Might not be too good for users that sit close to the boxes though. Someone will get some temp diodes on both units after launch, then we can make a real comparison about how well the units function at removing heat from the silicone and sensitive components. I'm sure they'll both do great.
kyliethicc
Member
Xbox does have some SRAM shared across the SOC, not sure what exactly for.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Nice try but no. You can listen to Richard himself who confirmed the xsx GPU architecture diagram is the same as the 5700xt. They just added in more CUs and bolted on hardware RT in the TMUs which is exactly what was done on the PS5, but to xbox fans that meant the PS5 was RDNA 1.0 with hardware rt bolted on. Turns they are both RDNA 1.0. or RDNA 1.5. its nonsense.
Yes. it's needed in both consoles for decompression of ssd assets.
Inside Xbox Series X: the full specs
This is it. After months of teaser trailers, blog posts and even the occasional leak, we can finally reveal firm, hard …
www.eurogamer.net
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SportsFan581
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Weren't they just counting up all the registers + the CPU and GPU caches? The SoC doesn't have much SRAM in total, a complete design reversal from the X1 approach, very much let's use ever transistor for CPU and GPU this time around.
vpance
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PSX
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DRNA 3
We only can hope because Sony being secretive about PS5 probably waiting on AMD event to reveal their DRNA 2 GPUs to happen first, before teardown event of the PS5
I mean "SOON"
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SportsFan581
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Are they playing the games at X1 settings and clocks or is the system running these unlocked for better performance?
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Deleted member 775630
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Has nothing to do with the game they are playing, since some of them are unlocked and played at 60fps. Also old games? They are playing RDR2 and Division 2 for example. It's not like everyone is playing Fusion Frenzy
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Wraith Phantom
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I wonder if the large SRAM in the PS5's I/O complex is related to RDNA 2's Infinity Cache
Yep that sram & the whole complex + cache scrubber is your cache system. Sony>all. That is all.
saintjules
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Yes it was (thread created).
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martino
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if same language elements are used too often i will become doubtfull
HeisenbergFX4
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This is the graphics I want to see this new gen, hope that is in fact real gameplay
Red_Driver85
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Where? Has but not has?
Bo_Hazem
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Bo_Hazem
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Deleted member 775630
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It's also coming out on the XSX.
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