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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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AeneaGames

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I find it headache inducing compared to the XMB. But then I'm usually sleep deprived :) when I'm picking up a pad, so the pure crisp image of the xmb is heaven by comparison. It also looks like a design by committee IMHO, everything is in place, but nothing feels like it has to be where it is - so even finding my focus on the UI is laggy in comparison :).

I get an overwhelming feeling from both the PS4 and PS5 UI that I'm being corralled towards all upselling options and social content, which went hand-in-hand with charging for online gaming. So although they claim they value our gaming time, I haven't truly felt that since the XMB UI was current interface on the latest Playstation. and a lack of UI choice to reduce the system to something more razor focused and clean for gaming is my main gripe with Playstation.

I of course know not everyone is the same but here and on PS4 both you see a list of installed game icons, just navigate to one, select it and it starts it. I don't see what could be distracting you.
Plus they seem to have removed the What's New thing the PS4 defaults to. Since I'm totally not interested in any of that I simply ignore it and move to the game icon.

The PS3 xmb I liked enough but I found that to be a mess. You had to move to the Games icon first which was not the left most icon but 2nd or 3rd from the right with many others before it, then wade thru the games and you could go both up and down. It felt somewhat unnatural to me and took me some time to get used to. There it seemed they did not find gsming to be the most important thing.

I get that for you it's quite the opposite tho. Kinda fascinating how minds work...
 

ZippDude

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Ok guys, I jumped like 30 pages to like 10 pages behind and I reached the fucking final page. I found this in the GIF/meme thread by @Eternal21



Now I wanna confess before I go to sleep. This Lupita chick is fucking hot!

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There is a perfect shot of her firm buttocks but avoided including it. If you guys push me enough I'll release it exclusively.:lollipop_anxious_sweat::lollipop_fire:

Ok, bed time.:lollipop_sleeping:🛏
But why?...at the very least include it...for science...err, reasons :messenger_smirking:
 
As I said earlier in this threat, neither will keep a full 4k buffer allocated for the OS when you're playing a game. At least Sony's SSD is so fast, they throw out and load assets as they see fit for the UI. This might be more challenging for the XSX SSD, which might be why they might settle for 1080p UI.

How is this handled on the PS4pro? Mechanical HDD and 4K UI.
 

TLZ

Banned
Ok guys, I jumped like 30 pages to like 10 pages behind and I reached the fucking final page. I found this in the GIF/meme thread by @Eternal21



Now I wanna confess before I go to sleep. This Lupita chick is fucking hot!

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There is a perfect shot of her firm buttocks but avoided including it. If you guys push me enough I'll release it exclusively.:lollipop_anxious_sweat::lollipop_fire:

Ok, bed time.:lollipop_sleeping:🛏
You have the console?

!بو حازم
 
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scie

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It's actually simple if you want it to be, this is the main one:

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Then from there you can go extensively or just play the games. I find it pretty straightforward, don't you?

This is what I really like about Sonys UI that they have little to no ads on screen. On Xbox it got really better during the last couple of updates that there are only 1-2 small ads on screen like Gold or Ulitmate sub ads and it was really worse 1-2 years ago that I started blocking ads on xbox through pihole.
 

Panajev2001a

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control center is great, best part is that you rarely leave the game screen.

good shit 👍

This is an interesting way to use the extra SSD bandwidth and the bit of free CPU resources they have (less CPU overhead for SSD I/O data transfers is likely vs XSX), but I hope it is very smartly kept under check. I would hate to see the feature cut at some point to give RAM back to devs.
I also wonder if they have permanent GPU and CPU time slice reservation or if it is an on demand/when in use thing.

I get the usefulness in game and it does look cool and something some people could really love, but I would be happier knowing the cost paid for it too even if Sony says “similar to PS4”. Do we have a Secondary Co-Processor and it’s own slow RAM to offload some of it to too?
 

FranXico

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This is what I really like about Sonys UI that they have little to no ads on screen. On Xbox it got really better during the last couple of updates that there are only 1-2 small ads on screen like Gold or Ulitmate sub ads and it was really worse 1-2 years ago that I started blocking ads on xbox through pihole.
The PS4 gets ads in a couple of dedicated places, but it's not too intrusive. Publishers also control their game pages. Warner Bros and Ubisoft are the worst offenders tbh.
 

Flippo

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I think they saved the other OS features and fast loading for another video. 'Switcher' icon seems to be where you switch between the suspended games. Really interested in the speed test and other OS features 😛
 

pasterpl

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Ps5 ui look sleek, but all of these gimmicks are just gimmicks, but I am on old schools guy, i don’t think I ever took a screenshot of any game on my Xbox or playstation, I am also guy who likes to figure out things myself (no guides, no videos etc.). Also a big point that I have noticed in the ui video; Can anyone explain to me how is destruction all stars taking 6-7 seconds to load? This game doesn’t look big.
 

AeneaGames

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Man I want this NOW!

What the FAAAAAAK.

Ok I need to calm down.

This is why I don't like seeing things early. Now the month wait will feel like an eternity of torture.

Then feel bad for me since I don't get it at launch but a few weeks to a month later! Gonna be torture hearing about stuff from people who already have theirs.

I think the store's support people will get sick of me "is it there, yet?" 😂
 

Yoboman

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"there is no hype surrouding ps5" _ fighter-X

Sony has played a good hand. They will have content like this rolling out right up until launch day, dominating social media. They will then dominate the discussion of reviews, having all of the exclusive content at launch

I dont know if there's much left for Microsoft left to reveal, they have put the consoles into journalists hands already a month before launch. And the primary discussion has been BC performance. Which is going to still be the main discussion for Xbox after launch considering its lineup
 
I think that is for "rewinding" recorded video (like last 5-10 mins) while the red dot option on the right is for starting a recording. Both are just ways to save/start gameplay footage, I think.
Makes sense, wonder if the console will still record the last 15 minutes of gameplay or if it will let you choose between 5, 10 or 15, that would be a cool option.
 
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bitbydeath

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Ps5 ui look sleek, but all of these gimmicks are just gimmicks, but I am on old schools guy, i don’t think I ever took a screenshot of any game on my Xbox or playstation, I am also guy who likes to figure out things myself (no guides, no videos etc.). Also a big point that I have noticed in the ui video; Can anyone explain to me how is destruction all stars taking 6-7 seconds to load? This game doesn’t look big.

Probably cause it’s a multiplayer game so it’ll take longer to prepare servers.
 

Mr Moose

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Ps5 ui look sleek, but all of these gimmicks are just gimmicks, but I am on old schools guy, i don’t think I ever took a screenshot of any game on my Xbox or playstation, I am also guy who likes to figure out things myself (no guides, no videos etc.). Also a big point that I have noticed in the ui video; Can anyone explain to me how is destruction all stars taking 6-7 seconds to load? This game doesn’t look big.
It's faster than Series X quick resume without quick resuming, but meh, not impressive.
 

xacto

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Then feel bad for me since I don't get it at launch but a few weeks to a month later! Gonna be torture hearing about stuff from people who already have theirs.

I think the store's support people will get sick of me "is it there, yet?" 😂

We should create a support group amongst ourselves - the ones who didn't get to pre-order, got pre-orders cancelled, or (in my case) people who think they can walk into a store day 1 and get the thing home like nothing else matters.

I will watch streams on Twitch with the new console... and salivate. And cry. And I will also remove the people who got a PS5 symbol next to their name in my PSN friends list.
 

geordiemp

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We should create a support group amongst ourselves - the ones who didn't get to pre-order, got pre-orders cancelled, or (in my case) people who think they can walk into a store day 1 and get the thing home like nothing else matters.

I will watch streams on Twitch with the new console... and salivate. And cry. And I will also remove the people who got a PS5 symbol next to their name in my PSN friends list.

My son is most excited about that, he can show his ps5 off in his friends list.
 

ToadMan

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Ps5 ui look sleek, but all of these gimmicks are just gimmicks, but I am on old schools guy, i don’t think I ever took a screenshot of any game on my Xbox or playstation, I am also guy who likes to figure out things myself (no guides, no videos etc.). Also a big point that I have noticed in the ui video; Can anyone explain to me how is destruction all stars taking 6-7 seconds to load? This game doesn’t look big.


Well we can only speculate but this is the speculation thread so...

Assumption - When Sackboy was deselected there was no alert telling the user they would lose unsaved progress... That is something all PS4 games would do, so it's reasonable to expect that on PS5 too.

The implication then, is that the user won't lose unsaved progress because Sackboy is being suspended, not shut down. The narrator didn't explicitly say that, but observation of the video suggests that's the case.

In which case 2 or 3 seconds of those 6-7 seconds are spent saving sack boy to SSD (writing(& compressing?) is slower than reading/decompressing remember), before then cold launching DA in more like 4 seconds. Now we're talking - that's a save state stored and a new game loaded from cold in just 6-7 secs.


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Aaron Greenberg have 2% system architecture knowladge. Its nice to see that he is try to understand. I appreciate.
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He's a bald headed numbskull responsible for marketing, but doesn't seem to know shit about it. He's trying to sell his company's console but has zero reasoning .Of course he knows jack shit about system architectures, that's not his job. Anyhow he's absolutely terrible at his primary job even though his attempts at coloring his rival company's console as criminal or a failed piece of hardware without knowing how its systems and subsystems work is cute, but it fails to get his point across and essentially makes him look like an idiot.
 
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It's faster than Series X quick resume without quick resuming, but meh, not impressive.
One important distinction though. Quick resume always works wherever you want, the PS5 version needs to be implemented by developers, and is where they want. Right? Or did I not understand the cards stuff correctly? I haven't checked the video myself (was planning on doing that somewhere today), but quickly read some highlights so I may have misunderstood the functionality.
 

kyliethicc

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One important distinction though. Quick resume always works wherever you want, the PS5 version needs to be implemented by developers, and is where they want. Right? Or did I not understand the cards stuff correctly? I haven't checked the video myself (was planning on doing that somewhere today), but quickly read some highlights so I may have misunderstood the functionality.
No. The cold boot of a PS5 game was faster than quick resume on Xbox.
 
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