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[Imtjnotu]

what? no.

they seem to be making a big monolithic 7nm Vega die with 128CUs

VegaNEXT and RDNA will be existing as parallel archs. one for compute one for gaming.

What the Fuck is Vega next

 

[Negotiator]

Mutha fucka!

#Team26TF.

Yeah, high-end GPUs in late 2020 will reach 20TF+.

13-14TF will be considered mid-range by then.

 

[DemonCleaner]

3700X -check

5700XT check


now i only need one of you to convince an admin do de-junior me, so i can start my "Simulating gonzalo"-thread!!

 

[DJ12]

I see the band of contradictionists are still plowing on with their agenda, arguing with themselves hoping no one remembers what they said.....

 

[xool]

I see the band of contradictionists are still plowing on with their agenda, arguing with themselves hoping no one remembers what they said.....

Join us

 

[LordOfChaos]

 

[Negotiator]

0.2V is insane, how do they do that?

Maybe they won't even need an ARM SoC this time around (even if it exists, it won't be manufactured at 7nm)...

 

[LordOfChaos]

0.2V is insane, how do they do that?

Maybe they won't even need an ARM SoC this time around (even if it exists, it won't be manufactured at 7nm)...

Fair point, if the x86 power draw is this low...

Though I'd still like as much moved off the x86 cores as possible. Current console reservation is ~1.5 cores for OS stuff as the ARM SoC is too weak to drive a lot, ideally as much as possible is dedicated to the game apart from necessary OS libraries and listeners etc.

 

[KURDISTAN YPG]

So fellas another of my unworthy posts

Which is more power according to leaks, rumours, tech guys here?

 

[SpinningBirdKick]

So fellas another of my unworthy posts

Which is more power according to leaks, rumours, tech guys here?

The Nontendo GameChild, releases spring 2021.

 

[xool]

0.2V is insane, how do they do that?

At first I was like "nope, software reading error", then I read about 7 nm. According to https://irds.ieee.org/images/files/pdf/2017/2017IRDS_MM.pdf (see §4.2.11.) supply voltage is 0.7V and Vdsat is 0.16 to 0.177 V (low or high power process) .. so it seems completely possible.

I had no idea..

 

[bitbydeath]

3700X -check

5700XT check


now i only need one of you to convince an admin do de-junior me, so i can start my "Simulating gonzalo"-thread!!

You could raise that in this thread.

NeoGAF Ban Review/Justice Project

People can improve themselves if they want to. This is not like a trigger-happy-to-ban forum. He has the chance to change the attitude now. It's up to him to accept that. I’m all for forgiveness and personal growth, but when the guy is arguing—over a sustained period of time—that the kid...

www.neogaf.com

Explain why you received it and ask if it can be corrected.

 

[DemonCleaner]

You could raise that in this thread.

NeoGAF Ban Review/Justice Project

People can improve themselves if they want to. This is not like a trigger-happy-to-ban forum. He has the chance to change the attitude now. It's up to him to accept that. I’m all for forgiveness and personal growth, but when the guy is arguing—over a sustained period of time—that the kid...

www.neogaf.com

Explain why you received it and ask if it can be corrected.

thanks for the link.

can't remeber why i received it. must have happened 10 years ago or so...


got my first succesful gonzalo underclock with power testing

 

[R600]

thanks for the link.

can't remeber why i received it. must have happened 10 years ago or so...


got my first succesful gonzalo underclock with power testing

Make sure to undervolt it as well

 

[DemonCleaner]

Make sure to undervolt it as well

already done. 1.00V on trhe 3700x :-O

 

[R600]

already done. 1.00V on trhe 3700x :-O

Will be waiting for results! If you cannot post thread, give SonGoku the honors to do Gonzalo one

 

[Mass Shift]

If TF improvements were as tame as some predict they wouldn't even mention it and instead focus on other aspects
The fact that he mentioned TF and SSD speed together should be telling that GPU raw performance (TF) is one of the pillars of the PS5 design.

The crumbles are there, RDNA2, 7nm EUV, RT.

 

[Fake]

Man... will be a amazing jump from jaguar.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Imagine a next gen open world with these graphics (hzd2, rdr3, gta6, deathstranding2, halo 7, battlefield, battlefront)

I think this, along with the Unity tech demos are going to be closer to reality than we think.

 

[SpinningBirdKick]

Thinking out loud.

Scarlett guesstimate:

• 72 CUs
• 3 Shader engines
• 1 dual CU disabled per shader engine
• 66 active CUs
• clocked at 1650
• 7nm EUV
• 13.9 TF

Clock maybe too high though.

Thoughts?

 

[EviLore]

now i only need one of you to convince an admin do de-junior me, so i can start my "Simulating gonzalo"-thread!!

All set.

 

[Fake]

All set.

Great move. DemonCleaner its up to you now.

 

[bitbydeath]

Great move. DemonCleaner its up to you now.

No pressure but the steaks are high.

 

[xool]

Thinking out loud.

Scarlett guesstimate:

• 72 CUs
• 3 Shader engines
• 1 dual CU disabled per shader engine
• 66 active CUs
• clocked at 1650
• 7nm EUV
• 13.9 TF

Clock maybe too high though.

Thoughts?

Ready to jump ship

How high do you think CPU will go (and memory clocks) ?

 

[Mass Shift]

Thinking out loud.

Scarlett guesstimate:

• 72 CUs
• 3 Shader engines
• 1 dual CU disabled per shader engine
• 66 active CUs
• clocked at 1650
• 7nm EUV
• 13.9 TF

Clock maybe too high though.

Thoughts?

I don't think MS will go above 1500Mhz

 

[ANIMAL1975]

Thinking out loud.

Scarlett guesstimate:

• 72 CUs
• 3 Shader engines
• 1 dual CU disabled per shader engine
• 66 active CUs
• clocked at 1650
• 7nm EUV
• 13.9 TF

Clock maybe too high though.

Thoughts?

I think that's what Lockhart was meant to be, double the numbers for Scarlett

 

[Imtjnotu]

I think that's what Lockhart was meant to be, double the numbers for Scarlett

So Lockhart was 12 and anaconda was what?

 

[Fake]

So Lockhart was 12 and anaconda was what?

Anaconda was NS lite.

 

[SonGoku]

Calling it Arcturus with RDNA2 instead.

RDNA is gaming oriented arch
GCN compute

So when we getting a sony event to get any real info

December, Spring
or E3

Pretty cool but it seems to me we already have something similar in Star Wars Battlefront 1 and 2 with their "static backgrounds". I think I'd find it more impressive if the visuals looked like that and it was interactive with the player.

I agree lighting and dynamic environments will make a huge difference but graphics can improve as well.

Thinking out loud.

Scarlett guesstimate:

• 72 CUs
• 3 Shader engines
• 1 dual CU disabled per shader engine
• 66 active CUs
• clocked at 1650
• 7nm EUV
• 13.9 TF

Clock maybe too high though.

Thoughts?

Im thinking that's right on the money, maybe clocks a bit lower (1550-1600Mhz)
Im theorizing that the way RDNA is built the 2 SEs can be scaled up instead of adding more. We can estimate the SE size increase by using 3 or 4 SEs in the calculations

 

[Fake]

 

[mckmas8808]

If it was releasing now yeah....But we all knew 2020 was the year.

 

[SpinningBirdKick]

Im thinking that's right on the money, maybe clocks a bit lower (1550-1600Mhz)
Im theorizing that the way RDNA is built the 2 SEs can be scaled up instead of adding more. We can estimate the SE size increase by using 3 or 4 SEs in the calculations

Pushing the clocks a little more than than PS5's 1550 due to fewer active CUs.

Revised Scarlett:

• 72 CUs
• 3 Shader engines
• 1 dual CU disabled per shader engine
• 66 active CUs
• clocked at 1600
• 7nm EUV
• 13.5 TF

 

[SonGoku]

Need suggestions for poll question, already got the options written

• Next Gen consoles GPU performance
• Choose your team(s)
• Next Gen Power Level

Pushing the clocks a little more than than PS5's 1550 due to fewer active CUs.

Revised Scarlett:

• 72 CUs
• 3 Shader engines
• 1 dual CU disabled per shader engine
• 66 active CUs
• clocked at 1600
• 7nm EUV
• 13.5 TF

Might have 68CUs available

 

[Fake]

Need suggestions for poll question, already got the options written

• Next Gen consoles GPU performance
• Choose your team(s)
• Next Gen Power Level

Memory size?
Team 8TF?
Team HBM?
Team Zen 3 lmao #believe?
Pastebin vs Xbox Insiders?

 

[CrustyBritches]

SonGoku

Poll on GPU performance would be good, but maybe by AMD/Nvidia card names/performance segments not TF?

 

[Fake]

 

[SonGoku]

SonGoku

Poll on GPU performance would be good, but maybe by AMD/Nvidia card names/performance segments not TF?

I can add performance tier but TF must be included its a classic

btw nvidia cards usually go 200mhz above their official boost clocks right?

 

[Evilms]

Interesting results but Intel still leading in gaming performance.

 

[LordOfChaos]

PS5: Patent Filings Detail Sony's Plan to Make a Breakthrough VR Headset

Sony has groundbreaking VR plans in its future.

www.inverse.com

 

[Mass Shift]

PS5: Patent Filings Detail Sony's Plan to Make a Breakthrough VR Headset

Sony has groundbreaking VR plans in its future.

www.inverse.com

None of those features are necessarily breakthroughs, you can find them on other vr headsets as well.

 

[Gamernyc78]

The Nontendo GameChild, releases spring 2021.

This had me dying

 

[SonGoku]

Imtjnotu poll's up

 

[Fake]

Interesting results but Intel still leading in gaming performance.

The results are quite good for 'console' case. Still beat I agree, but looking at that comparison with a top end, inside a next gen console will be amazing.
The Digital Foundry guy also spoke about how bad some games engine are using multi core CPU like the Dunia engine with prefer single core perfomance than multi core.
So is a miracle the Far Cry 5 run at locked 30 on consoles take into consideration how bad the jaguar are.

 

[Imtjnotu]

Imtjnotu poll's up

I love you

 

[Fake]

#Team11 lets go pikachu.

 

[SonGoku]

The results are quite good for 'console' case. Still beat I agree, but looking at that comparison with a top end, inside a next gen console will be amazing.
The Digital Foundry guy also spoke about how bad some games engine are using multi core CPU like the Dunia engine with prefer single core perfomance than multi core.
So is a miracle the Far Cry 5 run at locked 30 on consoles take into consideration how bad the jaguar are.

The best part is ZEN2 beats intel IPC, so at consoles clocks 3-3.3GHz AMD is the best

I love you

#Team11 lets go pikachu.

You can pick two options btw

I'll go back to my base form now.

 

[Fake]

You can pick two options btw

 

[SonGoku]

even if it exists, it won't be manufactured at 7nm

why?

 

[joe_zazen]

.

None of those features are necessarily breakthroughs, you can find them on other vr headsets as well.

Foveated tracking is available now?

 

[Negotiator]

why?

Because the southbridge always uses an older node.