mckmas8808
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11TF in the new RDNA counting numbers? Isn't that equivalent to 15 TFs if you couldn't the old\current way?
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11TF in the new RDNA counting numbers? Isn't that equivalent to 15 TFs if you couldn't the old\current way?
sonomamashine
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nope 11 RDNA is 13,7 GCN.
1,25 IPC boost.
mckmas8808
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I thought someone posted a few weeks back (or it could have been a few months back at this point), that it's a 1,40 IPC boost. Or was the 1.40 IPC boost the max and the 1.25 IPC boost the average?
ResilientBanana
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Did you read the post I was quoting? I didn't make it up. Report away, I'd be Concerned for everyones sake if i was banned for something so minimal such as directly responding to somebody's post. Let alone posting my opinion on a forum.
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DeepEnigma
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That would make sense for BC, since they are the clocks of the each "gen" on the platform/ecosystem.
Gen 0 profile is PS4 clock.
Gen 1 profile is Pro clock.
Gen 2 profile is PS5 clock.
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Fake
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This actor as well.36cu* 2ghz =9,2TF
sonomamashine
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maybe they got it mixed, 1.5x increase in performance per watt over existing Vega GPUs, Navi is 25% faster in terms of IPC and 50% more efficient.
SonGoku
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Pointless to compare to GCN, VEGA hit big diminishing returns
RDNA is now on par with Turing perf/fp, that's a better point of comparison
11TF RDNA = ~2080S
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mckmas8808
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Thanks. Yeah I think you are right.
Good point. So catch me up on this. Which is better a 2080S or the RTX 2080Ti?
SonGoku
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2080Ti = 13.45 TFLOPS
Closer to 14TF irl (nvidia gpus tend to clock higher than advertised boost clocks)
sonomamashine
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The RTX 2080 Super is only about 4-5% faster than the RTX 2080 Founders Edition.....
way to go Nvidia.
mckmas8808
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SonGoku
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lol lack of competition will do thatOh Jesus that thing still cost $1,000 by itself!
Remember intels $600-$1000 hexa cores?
Imtjnotu
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Lol that much ram. Not a chance in hell. That ram alone will be over $300+
SonGoku
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Could be devkit with double ram
The problem is they used a 320bit bus
48CUs at 2ghz? Not sure how viable it is even on 7nm+
vpance
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Could it just be max boost clock?
TLZ
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Ok, so here's a question for the more knowledgeable dudes and dudettes in here. Since the PS4 has 18 CUs, and the Pro has 36 CUs, double the PS4 to maintain BC, wouldn't the PS5 continue the trend and have either 3/4x the PS4's CUs to maintain full BC?
So either 18x3=54 CUs or 18x4=72 CUs? And at that 2ghz clock, either 13.8tf (this one probably looks safer) or 18.4tf (this one looks too high)?
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sonomamashine
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Lort
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The ram is 24 gb.
sonomamashine
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DeepEnigma
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demigod
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How do you think he will cope after spamming the thread with 8TF?
SonGoku
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I meant to say consoles won't sport less than 48CUs
2GHz is unrealistic for consoles be it 36CU or 48CU
DemonCleaner
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@7nm EUV the power/voltage frequency curve would probably shift to the right. At least is you wouldn't increase density to the max.
pastebin leak is a lie. looks plausible at first, but there is no way it would just have 560GB/s of memory bandwidth at 384bit bus (which it necessarly need to have with 12x 2GB GDDR6 modules).
Too pessimistic - real world switched mode supplies easily get over 90% and 95% isn't unrealistic .. that'l get you under the magic 200W figure..
That's awesome to hear. Why are 80plus gold PSUs for the PC still that expensive then?
would maybe also be (boarderline) possible even on normal 7nm at a bit lower clocks
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Mass Shift
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It doesn't sound unrealistic if as a result of the 7nm EUV process, the power efficiency makes allowances for the 2GHz clock.
I don't know SonGoku, I pray that it's at least 48. But Leadbetter, DF, Gonzalo, it's beginning to add up with a fair bit of consistency.
Suit yourself but I'm fallowing komachi leaks. Things constantly add up but you choose to ignore it.
xool
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No it is not "retarded" because I was comparing performance vs clock - power usage didn't even come into it.
Seriously don't go throwing around phrase "retarded"
1080 is full fat, 5700 is 36 of a max 40 CU.
Again lay off the attacks.
xool
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Samsung GDDR6 gos as low as 12Gb/s/pin - that gives nearly 560GB/s (576) on a 384bit bus .. they would be cheapest GDDR6 .. just saying - I don't really believe the numbers either.
xool
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I'm at the stage of "don't believe any of this". Komachi et al is/are feeding everyone a line - snippets of manufactured info that looks like Intel.
- Downclock to PS4/Pro GPU speeds for what ? - backwards compatability? on a new sub-architecture, with a completely different CPU design - nope
SpinningBirdKick
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Can't understand why people put any stock into anything that Komachi or Apisak tweets about next gen. It's like the blind leading the blind.
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They have an actual track record unlike you or SonGoku. And those are not blind guesses they share.
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SpinningBirdKick
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llien
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It is hilarious in how many ways you manage to be wrong in one sentence.
ASUS GeForce RTX 2070 Super STRIX OC Review
ASUS put the Super on a fully loaded ROG Strix OC board with DirectCU III cooling that's originally built for GPUs using the RTX 2080. Our testing shows impressive performance gains from the overclock out of the box, and the card runs very quietly, too.
ASUS Radeon RX 5700 XT STRIX OC Review
The ASUS Radeon RX 5700 XT STRIX OC is a huge improvement over the AMD reference design. It comes with an excellent cooler that reduces temperatures and noise levels at the same time, matching NVIDIA's offerings. Idle-fan-stop is included, too, and the factory overclock nets additional performance.
NVs actual clock is much higher than claimed.
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xool
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Excuse me for taking nvidia's and every other resellers specs as truth .. Oh wait you;re quoting maximum overclock - vs 5700XT standard clocks
Try linking some real figures .. like for like.
xool
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- they don't seem to have the claimed track record at all - supposedly they knew the PS4 and PS4-Pro chip IDs - but where was this info before release .. it didn;t exist - the first time we heard about this supposed "track record" was long after both consoles where out, and the info in the public domain..
An article at Eurogamer fed into the hype https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2019-is-amd-gonzalo-the-ps5-processor-in-theory
I'll take it all back if anyone can prove either had any info on PS4/PS4-Pro before release. Not reverse engineered claims of insight..
Bring it.
Yea, apparently for BC. As you can see, they downclock Jaguar in Pro as well as PS4Pro GPU, along with deactivating half of CUs, which interestingly matches exact specs of PS4.
"To give an example, the GPU of the prior version of the system might run at a GPU clock of 500 MHz, and the current system might run at a GPU clock [156] of 750 MHz. The system would run with [156] set to 750 MHz when an application is loaded that is designed only for the current system. In this example, the cycle counter [CC] would correspond to the 750 MHz frequency (i.e., it is a true cycle counter). When a legacy application (i.e., an application designed for the prior version of the system) is loaded, the system [100] may run at a frequency slightly higher than the operating frequency of the prior system (e.g., with [156] set to 505 MHz). In this backward compatible mode, the GPU spoof clock [135] would be configured to run at 500 MHz, and the cycle counter CC would be derived from the spoof clock, thus providing the expected value to the legacy application."
Maybe matching clocks is important even for gen to gen emulation?
Whatever he provided, from AMD CPUs to GPUs is certainly better "guess" then any of you guys have had up until now.
llien
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Grasping straws you are (oh look, the same 1935Mhz and 1845Mhz sustained as above):
Nvidia RTX 2070 SUPER Founders Edition 8GB Review - KitGuru
Today Nvidia has announced three new graphics cards - RTX 2060, 2070 and 2080 SUPER. RTX 2080 SUPER
www.kitguru.net
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Super Founders Edition Review
NVIDIA gave the GeForce RTX 20-series a midlife refresh with the new "Super" brand extension in the wake of AMD's upcoming Radeon Navi 7nm GPU. The RTX 2070 is based on the RTX 2080, which means SLI support and more shaders compared to the the original RTX 2070.
GeForce RTX 2060 and 2070 Super Review: Nvidia Preemptively Strikes Navi
Nvidia just rained on AMD's parade. The new GeForce RTX 2070 Super and GeForce RTX 2060 Super are a preemptive strike against Radeon RX 5700 XT and RX 5700.
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CSmath22
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You wouldn't know unless you've had one (and I don't mean that in an elitist way.) My nvidia GPU is listed with a 'boost clock' of 1680 MHz, but will genuinely run around 1845-1860 MHz not overclocked (and sliders left at default.)
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LSWilson
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exactly. 600 would be a MASSIVE mistake. One they already made.
SpinningBirdKick
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Spec reveal on Feb 12th?
Should be fun.
Should be fun.
mckmas8808
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LordOfChaos
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So it doesn't seem like they truly want to tariff things like phones and consoles, being that there's several American megacorps impacted by those
www.cnbc.com
12.1
US delays China tariffs for some items including cellphones, removing other products from list
The products with delayed tariffs include cellphones, laptop computers and "certain items of footwear and clothing," the USTR says.
12.1
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mckmas8808
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So it doesn't seem like they truly want to tariff things like phones and consoles, being that there's several American megacorps impacted by those
US delays China tariffs for some items including cellphones, removing other products from list
The products with delayed tariffs include cellphones, laptop computers and "certain items of footwear and clothing," the USTR says.
12.1
LOL @ Trump. He's not serious about this tariff and I'm happy about that. I want a monster PS5!
sonomamashine
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Nearly 12.3 tf.
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xool
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Grasping straws you are (oh look, the same 1935Mhz and 1845Mhz sustained as above):
Nvidia RTX 2070 SUPER Founders Edition 8GB Review - KitGuru
Today Nvidia has announced three new graphics cards - RTX 2060, 2070 and 2080 SUPER. RTX 2080 SUPER
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Super Founders Edition Review
NVIDIA gave the GeForce RTX 20-series a midlife refresh with the new "Super" brand extension in the wake of AMD's upcoming Radeon Navi 7nm GPU. The RTX 2070 is based on the RTX 2080, which means SLI support and more shaders compared to the the original RTX 2070.www.techpowerup.com
GeForce RTX 2060 and 2070 Super Review: Nvidia Preemptively Strikes Navi
Nvidia just rained on AMD's parade. The new GeForce RTX 2070 Super and GeForce RTX 2060 Super are a preemptive strike against Radeon RX 5700 XT and RX 5700.www.tomshardware.com
Dude I don't know what the fuck you are talking about - the comparison was with a 2070 not 2070 super .. not continuing this .. go away
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