Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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Common Sony, getting next gen blue balls waiting on something, anything. Don't give a crap what terrafloppies or Rteez, just roll out the info
 
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01011001 said:
stop projecting your fanboyism my man.
fanboys like you are the reason people can't have a decent conversation
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01011001 said:
SeS 6TF $350
PS5 8TF $400
SeX 12TF $600

could be a possibility.
I think people expect too much out of a box that is meant to be in the acceptable price range for a mainstream console.

and we're only talking graphics performance here, where comparable GPUs on PC are already tbis much by themselves.

then these syetems also have state of the art SSDs, possibly 16+GB of GDDR6 and a Zen 2 CPU.

just going by PC prices we are already coming close to 800 to 1000 bucks depending on the specific parts you go with.
and of course Console are usually cheaper than comparable PCs, but not by $600.
and yes they are still almost a year out, so prices will come down a bit, but how far? we don't know this.

people are expecting too much out of next gen systems in general.

maybe the SeX will also only be around 9TF and the Lockhart is truly cancelled or even the first rumoured 4TF and the supee cheap system MS tries to undercut Sony with.

but a 12TF or even 13TF PS5 at a price Sony is comfortable with based on their past, I just can't see that whatsoever.

and I also think that the SeX at 12TF and at $600 wouldn't sell well and absolutely be a niche system.
and by the time its price goes down to 400 Sony might be comfortable to release a PS5pro at that price.
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I'm not the one running around lowballing the other side's TF like you are champ. Your dreams of this happening are dead.
 
demigod said:
I'm not the one running around lowballing the other side's TF like you are champ. Your dreams of this happening are dead.
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the fuck is your problem? I try to have a conversation about the possibility of this being true.

of course a fnboy like you will instantly see this as an attack.

how about just stfu and let people interested in the conversation have the conversation instead of firing up your fanboy shields as soon as someone suggests a box from another multibillion dollar company could be more powerful than the box of another multibillion dollar company?

what stakes do you have in this game? are you a stockholder? wtf?

I'll get both anyways, I couldn't care less who has a more powerful system and you should try the same.
 
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01011001 said:
the fuck is your problem? I try to have a conversation about the possibility of this being true.

of course a fnboy like you will instantly see this as an attack.

how about just stfu and let people interested in the conversation have the conversation instead of firing up your fanboy shields as soon as someone suggests a box from another multibillion dollar company could be more powerful than the box of another multibillion dollar company?

what stakes do you have in this game? are you a stockholder? wtf?

I couldn't care less who has a more powerful system and you should try the same.
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You have an agenda, you're not trying to have a discussion putting the PS5 at 8TF. Go fanboy elsewhere.
 
demigod said:
You have an agenda, you're not trying to have a discussion putting the PS5 at 8TF. Go fanboy elsewhere.
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for the record I personally think non of the leaks tell the truth.
I could actually see both of them be exactly 8TF with almost the exact same base hardware, and both then modified it to suit their plans.

that's honestly what I see as the most likely outcome.

you are clearly a fanboy, you clearly want one side to be more powerful... which is completely dumb to ve honest since who cares?

you know what my favourite console was just a few years ago? the fucking Wii U, because just like the Dreamcast it had a certain thing about it... an aura or vibe if you will that just resonated with me.

I still use it regularly and love it.

so my absolute prediction for the PS5 and Series X is as follows.

both have the same CPU cores, the same GPU, the same amount of GDDR6 (maybe a different amount of slower memory from eachother for the system stuff) and a similarly fast SSD.
the main difference will be small modifications and clock speeds.

maybe one will be faster than the other simply because it is higher clocked slightly, which could be a last minute change even.

that's what I think what will happen, and the dream of a 12 or 13TF console at $400 or even 500 for thta matter is wishful thinking and people will be disappointed.
because 400 to 500 Dollars will be their target price point
 
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Sony please
 
01011001 said:
for the record I personally think non of the leaks tell the truth.
I could actually see both of them be exactly 8TF with almost the exact same base hardware, and both then modified it to suit their plans.

that's honestly what I see as the most likely outcome.

you are clearly a fanboy, you clearly want one side to be more powerful... which is completely dumb to ve honest since who cares?

you know what my favourite console was just a few years ago? the fucking Wii U, because just like the Dreamcast it had a certain thing about it... an aura or vibe if you will that just resonated with me.

I still use it regularly and love it.

so my absolute prediction for the PS5 and Series X is as follows.

both have the same CPU cores, the same GPU, the same amount of GDDR6 (maybe a different amount of slower memory from eachother for the system stuff) and a similarly fast SSD.
the main difference will be small modifications and clock speeds.

maybe one will be faster than the other simply because it is higher clocked slightly, which could be a last minute change even.

that's what I think what will happen, and the dream of a 12 or 13TF console at $400 or even 500 for thta matter is wishful thinking and people will be disappointed.
because 400 to 500 Dollars will be their target price point
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Lol, you keep calling me a fanboy in this thread but all i see is you putting PS5 at 8TF meanwhile the XSX at 12 TF and lockhart at 6TF. Seriously go look in the mirror. You obviously care so much putting PS5 at 8TF, quite sad tbh. Now you're pretending that you can see both of them at 8TF? Just stop lying to save face.
 
Has anyone even considered the fact the devkits always have higher specs than the retail units? They'll always have bigger hard drive, more ram, etc for debugging and other development needs. If supposed devkits are 12ish TFLOPs or higher, then the realistic view of a retail unit should be lower by some degree. While this isn't the rule obviously it has definitely been the norm.

As far as these "insiders" know I really have a hard time believing that if they were to actually delve any information about specs and whatnot how in the holy hell could they get caught? I can just as easily go and very quickly create a username, post something, hop off and delete my trail and call it a day. These "insiders" all act like they are the ONLY people who know about the next consoles when I'm sure there are hundreds of people (devs, employees, etc) who have a pretty damn good idea if not specific info. I really have a hard time believing they'd go on some witch Hunt to find the guy or girl who put out a few details on some forum for which most people on the forum wouldn't believe that person anyway.
 
Chronos24 said:
Has anyone even considered the fact the devkits always have higher specs than the retail units? They'll always have bigger hard drive, more ram, etc for debugging and other development needs. If supposed devkits are 12ish TFLOPs or higher, then the realistic view of a retail unit should be lower by some degree. While this isn't the rule obviously it has definitely been the norm.

As far as these "insiders" know I really have a hard time believing that if they were to actually delve any information about specs and whatnot how in the holy hell could they get caught? I can just as easily go and very quickly create a username, post something, hop off and delete my trail and call it a day. These "insiders" all act like they are the ONLY people who know about the next consoles when I'm sure there are hundreds of people (devs, employees, etc) who have a pretty damn good idea if not specific info. I really have a hard time believing they'd go on some witch Hunt to find the guy or girl who put out a few details on some forum for which most people on the forum wouldn't believe that person anyway.
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Sony devkits usually only has more RAM... CPU & GPU have the same retail clocks... maybe Sony changed after 25 years.

XDK (Xbox devkit) usually has more CUs enabled, clock and RAM than retail.
 
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01011001 said:
the fuck is your problem? I try to have a conversation about the possibility of this being true.

of course a fnboy like you will instantly see this as an attack.

how about just stfu and let people interested in the conversation have the conversation instead of firing up your fanboy shields as soon as someone suggests a box from another multibillion dollar company could be more powerful than the box of another multibillion dollar company?

what stakes do you have in this game? are you a stockholder? wtf?

I'll get both anyways, I couldn't care less who has a more powerful system and you should try the same.
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Easy boy.
God of mod might note be in the mood
 
Sleep time boys .. close your goddamn eyes and stop this totem from spinning around over and over again .. didn't you see Inception? You are in a dream wake up by closing your eyes .. wtf did I just say lmao
 
Andodalf said:
The ole dreamcast style launch
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You mean the SEGA Saturn American launch? Dreamcast didn't have any surprise launch and rumors for that were kicking up as soon as early '97 xD.

EDIT: Damnit Q quest beat me to it.

01011001 said:
SeS 6TF $350
PS5 8TF $400
SeX 12TF $600

could be a possibility.
I think people expect too much out of a box that is meant to be in the acceptable price range for a mainstream console.

and we're only talking graphics performance here, where comparable GPUs on PC are already tbis much by themselves.

then these syetems also have state of the art SSDs, possibly 16+GB of GDDR6 and a Zen 2 CPU.

just going by PC prices we are already coming close to 800 to 1000 bucks depending on the specific parts you go with.
and of course Console are usually cheaper than comparable PCs, but not by $600.
and yes they are still almost a year out, so prices will come down a bit, but how far? we don't know this.

people are expecting too much out of next gen systems in general.

maybe the SeX will also only be around 9TF and the Lockhart is truly cancelled or even the first rumoured 4TF and the supee cheap system MS tries to undercut Sony with.

but a 12TF or even 13TF PS5 at a price Sony is comfortable with based on their past, I just can't see that whatsoever.

and I also think that the SeX at 12TF and at $600 wouldn't sell well and absolutely be a niche system.
and by the time its price goes down to 400 Sony might be comfortable to release a PS5pro at that price.
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It's always nice to be conservative with this kind of stuff but this is almost too conservative. Again, look at the XSX APU die. Look at the measurements kicking around for it (405mm2). You can easily fit 56active CUs (possibly more) in that setup unless they overdid it with the CPU's L3$ (which I doubt; can't see either system having more than 8MB of L3$) at modest clocks to hit 12TF, or at least a hell of a lot more than 9.

PS5 is a bit more up in the air; it really comes down to how current Oberon is (feels pretty current and relevant still imho) and whether they are using dual Oberon chips or Oberon + some other smaller chip in chiplet form. If so, they too can easily blow right past 9TF and sit comfortably around 12-13TF range with decent cooling and price-competitive with XSX.

That's the way I see it anyhow.
 
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Before I go to bed I wanna say something so so so useless but hey .. first of all, exciting announcements coming in the near future from a wonderful talented private studio .. second , forget about TO ..


Have a lovely day
 
What specs the consoles reach are going to boil down to the price point that has been targeted. They both have the same release date.

They have access to the same AMD roadmap. They are going to have extremely similar technologies in them.

People will be inclined to want to believe whatever leak fits their desired outcome. I actually find it rather odd that people attach their egos to external objects. Like not have the best specs will bring shame for picking poorly. In the end though, tastes are subjective.

I am rather inclined to believe the insiders that are saying that both will be practically twins. They have access to the same tech. There is no magic bullet. Physics cannot be rewritten with well wishes and determination.

There will likely be strengths from each platform, and the discrepancies will not matter much. One argument that actually has weight, although used as fanboy jabs plenty of times, is that it is about the games.

Cannot remember what dev said it, but I agree, no one is falling on their face the start of the next gen.
 
Captain Hero said:
Before I go to bed I wanna say something so so so useless but hey .. first of all, exciting announcements coming in the near future from a wonderful talented private studio .. second , forget about TO ..


Have a lovely day
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Microsoft bought Ready at Dawn?
 
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Captain Hero said:
Before I go to bed I wanna say something so so so useless but hey .. first of all, exciting announcements coming in the near future from a wonderful talented private studio .. second , forget about TO ..


Have a lovely day
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TO is Sony IP so I believe RAD can do nothing about that unless Sony wants to made a new TO game.

Being honest Sony has way better IPs to focus.
 
01011001 said:
for the record I personally think non of the leaks tell the truth.
I could actually see both of them be exactly 8TF with almost the exact same base hardware, and both then modified it to suit their plans.

that's honestly what I see as the most likely outcome.

you are clearly a fanboy, you clearly want one side to be more powerful... which is completely dumb to ve honest since who cares?

you know what my favourite console was just a few years ago? the fucking Wii U, because just like the Dreamcast it had a certain thing about it... an aura or vibe if you will that just resonated with me.

I still use it regularly and love it.

so my absolute prediction for the PS5 and Series X is as follows.

both have the same CPU cores, the same GPU, the same amount of GDDR6 (maybe a different amount of slower memory from eachother for the system stuff) and a similarly fast SSD.
the main difference will be small modifications and clock speeds.

maybe one will be faster than the other simply because it is higher clocked slightly, which could be a last minute change even.

that's what I think what will happen, and the dream of a 12 or 13TF console at $400 or even 500 for thta matter is wishful thinking and people will be disappointed.
because 400 to 500 Dollars will be their target price point
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Tone it down digits. The Moderator of these forums is probably getting a headache from all this tisk for tasking.
 
At the moment we only have real data on the power of PS5 and that is that in BluePoint words your game will be a graphic exponent. That makes it very clear that PS5 will be at least with the same power or more than Xbox SX.

If PS5 had 8-10 TFLOPS and XBOX SX 12 would never make that statement
 
chemical boy said:
At the moment we only have real data on the power of PS5 and that is that in BluePoint words your game will be a graphic exponent. That makes it very clear that PS5 will be at least with the same power or more than Xbox SX.

If PS5 had 8-10 TFLOPS and XBOX SX 12 would never make that statement
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BluePoint are wizards though. That statement is more about their capabilities than the power of the PS5.
 
My final predictions for both consoles and I'm sticking with them till the official reveals of the specs by Sony & Microsoft (or maybe till a new substantial legit leak or report)... but here are my final predictions:

——-PS5——-

GPU: 12.4 RDNA TF with Hardware Ray Tracing.
CPU: 8 cores, 16 threads clocked @ 3.2 GHz.
RAM: 16 GB of GDDR6.
Storage: NVMe SSD @ 4 GB/s.

——-Xbox Series X——-

GPU: 12.1 RDNA TF with Hardware Ray Tracing.
CPU: 8 cores, 16 threads clocked @ 3.5 GHz.
RAM: 16 GB of GDDR6.
Storage: NVMe SSD @ 2 GB/s or more.

LOCK IT DOWN PEOPLE!!! These are my predictions.
 
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LED Guy? LED Guy? borrowed the format Ima stick with these til reveal


——-PS5——-

GPU: 12.9 RDNA TF with Hardware Ray Tracing. Dual Chips
CPU: 8 cores, 16 threads clocked @ 3.2 GHz.
RAM: 16 GB of GDDR6. 20 total
Storage: NVMe SSD @ 5-6GB/s.

——-Xbox Series X——-

GPU: 12.4 RDNA TF with Ray Tracing.
CPU: 8 cores, 16 threads clocked @ 3.6 GHz.
RAM: 16 GB of GDDR6. 20 total
Storage: NVMe SSD @ 2.5GB/s

Bonus:

—-Nintendo Switch—-

Doesnt matter its still going sale.

Double Bonus:

Sony gets bluepoint, Kojima, house marquee and Rem.

Ms gets, Rad, Techland and a 2 small studios



Disclaimer: Allofthesethingsarejustguesses. Thingsareliabletochange withinafewmonths. Thisisbeingsaidinasuperfastvoice. Iholdnopartyafflation. This ad was paid for and endorsed by mriverz 2020 on neogaf 🤣
 
The first ps3 had the ps2 hardware build in. That made it very expensive for the first two years. While it gives you 100pct bc it makes the console more expensive. A mistake that could have costed sony, because x360 was cheaper and more powerful. Kinda like last gen with ms trying to build in Kinect. I don't think sony will make the mistake of building in a secondary gpu for bc purposes.
 
01011001 said:
SeS 6TF $350
PS5 8TF $400
SeX 12TF $600

could be a possibility.
I think people expect too much out of a box that is meant to be in the acceptable price range for a mainstream console.

and we're only talking graphics performance here, where comparable GPUs on PC are already tbis much by themselves.

then these syetems also have state of the art SSDs, possibly 16+GB of GDDR6 and a Zen 2 CPU.

just going by PC prices we are already coming close to 800 to 1000 bucks depending on the specific parts you go with.
and of course Console are usually cheaper than comparable PCs, but not by $600.
and yes they are still almost a year out, so prices will come down a bit, but how far? we don't know this.

people are expecting too much out of next gen systems in general.

maybe the SeX will also only be around 9TF and the Lockhart is truly cancelled or even the first rumoured 4TF and the supee cheap system MS tries to undercut Sony with.

but a 12TF or even 13TF PS5 at a price Sony is comfortable with based on their past, I just can't see that whatsoever.

and I also think that the SeX at 12TF and at $600 wouldn't sell well and absolutely be a niche system.
and by the time its price goes down to 400 Sony might be comfortable to release a PS5pro at that price.
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They won't bring out a 600 price tag.
 
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