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[bitbydeath]

PS5 to be revealed in the same approach and time-frame as what sony did in the past with PS4, as they mentioned in their Q3 FY2019 too, is exactly what i heard about The announcement time of the console around 8 months ago.
Still #teamfeb

Shouldn't invites have gone out already if it were the same approach?

 

[Agnostic2020]

Shouldn't invites have gone out already if it were the same approach?

Yea . Could it be that till late last year they were trying to reach an agreement with esa for attending e3 and it didn't work . So after that they decided to push the reveal to may and maybe do another wired article before may ? I m just speculating Ofcourse. Cause they were trying to reach an agreement for e3 but it failed

 

[DrDamn]

So HeisenbergFX4 reconfirms one of his sources says PS5 is ~9.5TF with XSX a little over but down close to that number, his other sources still say both are 11TF+. Conclusions ...

Called it... hoping sony still surprises everyone though.

9tf vs 12tf is a pretty big difference.

The 9 vs 12 seems to be becoming the norm now.

Gotta keep pushing that narrative! Good job!

 

[hemo memo]

Shouldn't invites have gone out already if it were the same approach?

He can't possibly heard it "8 months ago" c'mon now that's ridiculous and he shouldn't be treated with any credibility after saying this.

 

[chemical boy]

PS5 to be revealed in the same approach and time-frame as what sony did in the past with PS4, as they mentioned in their Q3 FY2019 too, is exactly what i heard about The announcement time of the console around 8 months ago.
Still #teamfeb

Do you maintain that the PS5 GPU is more powerful than the Xbox SX GPU?

 

[chemical boy]

Nah man, you lied, you said "Mid-February", you don't know shit and you're not an insider.

Mods, please remove him.

He did not say that.

 

[hemo memo]

He did not say that.

~Middle Feb - 13+

Hmmmm

 

[Fanatics]

It seems that Sony is in big trouble that's why they are not showing PS5
either PS5 is 9.2TF or more RDNA 1 and XSX is 12TF RDNA 2.0/1.5
Or
Sony is planning something very big.
Because they never talked about GPU
Even in CES 2020 Jim Ryan talks about everything but nothing about Ray tracing.

 

[Rightisright]

So HeisenbergFX4 reconfirms one of his sources says PS5 is ~9.5TF with XSX a little over but down close to that number, his other sources still say both are 11TF+. Conclusions ...





Gotta keep pushing that narrative! Good job!

You do know that there are other sources than Heisenberg?

 

[Rightisright]

Is anyone still falling for TF as an insider at this point? Seriously? If so you got to have a good hard look at yourself.

 

[chemical boy]

Hmmmm

Do you know what is more or less mid-February? Day 10 is mid-February and day 20 is also interpretable. It is not the same to say on the 15th, that more or less in the middle. Quiet if Tommy lies he has requested his expulsion.

 

[TBiddy]

Is anyone still falling for TF as an insider at this point? Seriously? If so you got to have a good hard look at yourself.

I'm amazed that people are still buying into his bullshit.

 

[Fanatics]

But Sony can win E3 or can take over whole Xbox E3 conference by just announcing PS5 will be BC all PlayStation systems.

 

[chemical boy]

Is anyone still falling for TF as an insider at this point? Seriously? If so you got to have a good hard look at yourself.

Everyone is free to believe in anyone, here some believe the nonsense that PS5 has no RT hardware and nothing happens.

 

[DrDamn]

You do know that there are other sources than Heisenberg?

You posted in amongst the HeisenbergFX4 confirmation and discussion and referenced none of these other sources ...

 

[Fanatics]

Sony please drop something exciting.
This wait is unbearable.

 

[DrDamn]

You do know that there are other sources than Heisenberg?

Also what source has ever said it's 9 vs 12? Aside from people taking the 9TF from Github leaks and combining with the 12TF from other sources and smooging them together? No leak which claims to have access to both systems has said it's 9TF vs 12TF that I've seen, it's all both ~9.5/10 or both around 11/12 with one slightly ahead of the other. So how is it "becoming the norm now"?

 

[Rightisright]

Also what source has ever said it's 9 vs 12? Aside from people taking the 9TF from Github leaks and combining with the 12TF from other sources and smooging them together? No leak which claims to have access to both systems has said it's 9TF vs 12TF that I've seen, it's all both ~9.5/10 or both around 11/12 with one slightly ahead of the other. So how is it "becoming the norm now"?

There is plenty of evidence that says XSX is 12tflops. I can repeat them all for you, but would be boring at this point.
The Github leaks mirror one of the original PS5 dev kit leaks that said a 9.2tflop GPU.

 

[Rightisright]

You posted in amongst the HeisenbergFX4 confirmation and discussion and referenced none of these other sources ...

I didn't reference him either.

 

[Kusarigama]

I'm amazed that people are still buying into his bullshit.

I mean its not costing anybody anything. If Tommy Fisher is right we'll know by Feb end.

 

[Shmunter]

The interesting thing in all these TF discussions is; is XSX primed to be a high end offering with a price tag to match, catering to the high end consumer, not the the average punter.

This of course falls inline with Ms also offering a much cheaper alternative at the same time.

Leaving Sony somewhere in between with spec and price. How would the market respond. Pretty exciting to watch it unfold.

 

[Soadi]

Sony please drop something exciting.
This wait is unbearable.

Soon.

 

[DrDamn]

There is plenty of evidence that says XSX is 12tflops. I can repeat them all for you, but would be boring at this point.
The Github leaks mirror one of the original PS5 dev kit leaks that said a 9.2tflop GPU.

So no then, there is no source with access to both saying it's 9 vs 12. Thanks for clarifying. Again, aside from people using the same information and popping up regularly to say "So 9 vs 12 then..." how is it "becoming the norm now"?

 

[Taus90]

For now getting off the PS5 reveal hype train , there is definitely something going on at sony. My best guess is recent restructuring has change the plans,or being optimistic they might be waiting on some or one particular game demo to be delivered for launch showcase.. pretty sure sony would like to avoid another deep down and dreams moment or "square enix please be excited" quote

 

[Fanatics]

Hmm

Soon.

And I'm waiting

 

[SgtCaffran]

For now getting off the PS5 reveal hype train , there is definitely something going on at sony. My best guess is recent restructuring has change the plans,or being optimistic they might be waiting on some or one particular game demo to be delivered for launch showcase.. pretty sure sony would like to avoid another deep down and dreams moment or "square enix please be excited" quote

When launching your next big product that is going to be your focus for the coming 7 years, I would say that there are not going to be sudden delays or change of plans due to "some game demo not being delivered on time". They will absolutely make everyone work overtime to get something ready.

Just because we don't know what and when Sony is doing, doesn't mean they are scared/delayed/underpowered/etc. They simply have their planning and they are sticking to it, whether we like it or not.

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

Soon.

 

[MARTYWOLF]

We have 0 reason to believe ps5 is code named prospero. Has it only been one alleged source to bring forth that it's named prospero

In fact the leak that said it was prospero was deemed faked when MS said there was no camera being developed for series x

 

[Gavin Stevens]

It's quite clear the internal code name for the PS5 is "soony", come on.

 

[Taus90]

You are reading to much into my statement. Being sony they wouldn't want to showcase games that are far out, which was a talking point from PS4 reveal event..

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

We have 0 reason to believe ps5 is code named prospero. Has it only been one alleged source to bring forth that it's named prospero

The dev kit is said to be named Prospero. The Gizmodo leaker in June, Jason Schreier and the DF team say it is too.

 

[Kusarigama]

When launching your next big product that is going to be your focus for the coming 7 years, I would say that there are not going to be sudden delays or change of plans due to "some game demo not being delivered on time". They will absolutely make everyone work overtime to get something ready.

Just because we don't know what and when Sony is doing, doesn't mean they are scared/delayed/underpowered/etc. They simply have their planning and they are sticking to it, whether we like it or not.

People are over analysing the situation here. Sony is sticking to its plans whatever they may be and internally there is always going to be changes. We know that PS5 is coming this holiday season and the reveals and what not happen between now and then. They absolutely dont have to stick to how they did it previousy (like sending invites exactly 21days before). The gaming industry has changed tremendously since 2013. Having said all this, I still hope for the Feb reveal event with a monday/tuesday announcement.

 

[DJ12]

Hmmmm

Hmm indeed.

~ means around
13+ means after the 13th.

How does that disprove the 20th in your little world?

 

[Kobi]

The interesting thing in all these TF discussions is; is XSX primed to be a high end offering with a price tag to match, catering to the high end consumer, not the the average punter.

This of course falls inline with Ms also offering a much cheaper alternative at the same time.

Leaving Sony somewhere in between with spec and price. How would the market respond. Pretty exciting to watch it unfold.

This to me makes the most sense and was my train of thought too. I always seen the ps5 as the true 'next gen' console. The xsx a higher powered version and Lockhart the lower powered version. Ps5 sitting firmly Inbetween(tf wise) both xbox's. But this is only IF the ps5 is lower powered. If it's much the same then I don't think it would be a wise move for ms to create 2 consoles.

But people seriously need to get over the whole TF power. Like some people are proper butt hurt when they think their precious console is the inferior one. Their will be a minimal difference in graphic quality and it'll be more be a fps gain. Your next gen improvement will be from the better cpu and ssd. I'll be getting both as always and can't wait.

 

[Mriverz]

Welp, next rumor date is the 12th. Also the thing about github leak its been reported many times that the native is unknown. If BC really is backwards compat. Then 36-40, 18 is ps4 pro/ base Ps4. If the native is unknown one should think it would be above 36/40. Thats where i find my issue with the github leak. it only paints one side of the story but the main variable is missing.

Edit: Dont ask about the 2ghz lol maybe they like to push it to the limits

 

[hemo memo]

Hmm indeed.

~ means around
13+ means after the 13th.

How does that disprove the 20th in your little world?

He said:
"same approach and time-frame" So a formal reveal like 2013.

Today is Feb 7, when are they going to send invites for a " ~middle Feb " reveal?

I'll go with HeisenbergFX4 guess and say if the reveal in Feb it'll be a SoP.

 

[Gavin Stevens]

How can ps5 be the true next gen console if you also think SX is higher spec...?

I have no idea whats going on anymore... you guys make my head hurt...

 

[Rightisright]

So no then, there is no source with access to both saying it's 9 vs 12. Thanks for clarifying. Again, aside from people using the same information and popping up regularly to say "So 9 vs 12 then..." how is it "becoming the norm now"?

No source other official AMD benchmarks of the PS5 GPU.
And so who is the source who is using both dev kits that has gone on the record with the flops of both consoles?

 

[PocoJoe]

Everyone is free to believe in anyone, here some believe the nonsense that PS5 has no RT hardware and nothing happens.

Maybe you are TF alt account?

Or you are the most gullible person on the planet if you still believe him

 

[Agnostic2020]

He said:
"same approach and time-frame" So a formal reveal like 2013.

Today is Feb 7, when are they going to send invites for a " ~middle Feb " reveal?

I'll go with HeisenbergFX4 guess and say if the reveal in Feb it'll be a SoP.

I feel it will be one wired article and then a full reveal event in may

 

[Mriverz]

No source other official AMD benchmarks of the PS5 GPU.
And so who is the source who is using both dev kits that has gone on the record with the flops of both consoles?

Where is the source that says Oberon Native Cu though? All it says is BC

 

[onQ123]

How can ps5 be the true next gen console if you also think SX is higher spec...?

I have no idea whats going on anymore... you guys make my head hurt...

I'm not sure who you're replying to but it could be that PS5 is starting a new generation of games while Xbox SX is adding a new coat of paint to this generation of games.

 

[DrDamn]

No source other official AMD benchmarks of the PS5 GPU.

So, no source with access to both saying it's 9 vs 12.

And so who is the source who is using both dev kits that has gone on the record with the flops of both consoles?

I can repeat them all for you, but would be boring at this point.

 

[hemo memo]

I feel it will be one wired article and then a full reveal event in may

I'm not expecting another Wired article because of the wording in the PS5 official page.

 

[Agnostic2020]

So, no source with access to both saying it's 9 vs 12.



I can repeat them all for you, but would be boring at this point.

leave him be . He has no life but to talk about ps5 which he has no interest in . No point trying to make a conversation with people with that state of mind

 

[sonomamashine]

Nope, 12TF + Ray Tracing. You don't count ray tracing into the basic power of the GPU to go so far as to say 2 times the power of xbox one x or over 8 times the power of xbox one. There is an entirely separate metric for ray tracing performance or power, and they may or may not use that.

10.8 TF RDNA is already more than 2x the Xbox X.

 

[farmerboy]

Hmm indeed.

~ means around
13+ means after the 13th.

How does that disprove the 20th in your little world?

It's almost as if some wilfully want to interpret shit only one way, even when it's written in plain English. It's petty and childish.

Couldn't care less, as we'll know in 2 weeks and Tommy's put his account on the line anyway.

 

[Kobi]

How can ps5 be the true next gen console if you also think SX is higher spec...?

I have no idea whats going on anymore... you guys make my head hurt...

Haha sorry, slight misunderstanding there. Hopefully this will make sense. I shouldn't of said ps5 the true next gen. I meant the power, not necessarily directed at ps5. Say 10tf being the true next gen power 'step'. I see the xsx being the 'pro' version of of the next gen. Does that make better sense?

They way you said it, makes it sound like just because x1x is more powerful than they PS4 pro, it's in a different gen. No. Just because a console is more powerful, it doesn't put it in a different generation.

 

[TGO]

So, no source with access to both saying it's 9 vs 12.



I can repeat them all for you, but would be boring at this point.

ignore him

 

[Gavin Stevens]

Haha sorry, slight misunderstanding there. Hopefully this will make sense. I shouldn't of said ps5 the true next gen. I meant the power, not necessarily directed at ps5. Say 10tf being the true next gen power 'step'. I see the xsx being the 'pro' version of of the next gen. Does that make better sense?

They way you said it, makes it sound like just because x1x is more powerful than they PS4 pro, it's in a different gen. No. Just because a console is more powerful, it doesn't put it in a different generation.

Ahh I see your line of thinking and this makes more sense.

I'm not sure who you're replying to but it could be that PS5 is starting a new generation of games while Xbox SX is adding a new coat of paint to this generation of games.

This however, does not.