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[Agnostic2020]

So this confirms the Github leaks were true? PS5 only 9tf?

GitHub never gave the rdna2 or anything and this info has nothing to do with ps5 however it is still "our most powerful console "

 

[vpance]

If it's RDNA2, then that means it should be 7nm+. And the die size is still close to 400mm2 even with density improvements?

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

That actually surprises me even more, with the "Bigly" and little birdie you have. Seems like both were insanely locking down such details as possible. We appreciate all your engagement, sir Great times ahead!

Yeah he was the first one to tell me 11 ish TFs and those crazy techs at MS pulled off that jump to 12.

I am here to take my medicine for doubting they would reach 12, poke me with sticks and throw rocks at me, I deserve it

 

[Neo Blaster]

I think they are more likely like this:

Someone please write 'NeoGAF' over the engine and 'Sony's immovable SOON' over the guy.

 

[gamechanger87]

xbox already said it, that they will have 12TF machine, they are confirming this AGAIN. RDNA 2 is not even in the picture at this time again, because they CLEARLY stating that it is 2x more powerful than xbox x and 8x powerfull than xbox S. so it's impossible mathematically to be true, so there is a lie somewhere. so yeah, more of the same and nothing new. lets wait for more CONCRETE info.

God I swear some of you are really hard to handle. A TF is a TF no matter the architecture. The console is 12 TF. And now confirmed that it is RDNA 2.0.

12TF is twice the TF of XBX. However, in actual performance it is higher because the efficiency of RDNA means the same TF deliver higher performance.

This was not an asterik 12TF equivalent in GCN.

Some of you need to just stop. I mean what the hell else do you all need?

 

[Disco_]

So this confirms the Github leaks were true? PS5 only 9tf?

How did you reach this conclusion?

 

[JAMMA]

Team Github?....

 

[HawarMiran]

Yeah he was the first one to tell me 11 ish TFs and those crazy techs at MS pulled off that jump to 12.

I am here to take my medicine for doubting they would reach 12, poke me with sticks and throw rocks at me, I deserve it

No your friend deserves it

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Yeah he was the first one to tell me 11 ish TFs and those crazy techs at MS pulled off that jump to 12.

I am here to take my medicine for doubting they would reach 12, poke me with sticks and throw rocks at me, I deserve it

I'm not that type, it only matters that you were 100% honest. That what counts. In the end, we are all winning here... except Sony? I got big hopes as they didn't say "most powerful console", means they're still in the race, and probably both share the same die with different approaches.

 

[The Mad Draklor]

So this confirms the Github leaks were true? PS5 only 9tf?

We don't know what was the context of the Github leak.

 

[Entroyp]

I was expecting around 10-11 TF for next gen consoles. This is a nice surprise and great news for developers and gamers if the price is right. I'm still skeptical about MS on the games front since I haven't liked any of their games since Gears of War 2, but I feel they are heading in the right direction.

For as much as I love Sony and their game output, I feel they're not approaching the PS5 in the right way. Maybe it's because an internal power struggle? I don't know but you can't win all the time.

 

[gaming_noob]

TimDog redeemed (and lurking)

 

[newtonfb]

How did you reach this conclusion?

Wasnt that one of the few leaks that said 12tf for XSX and 9.2tf for PS5?

 

[Fake]

Glad I voted 12TF.

 

[sinnergy]

We don't know what was the context of the Github leak.

The context is Sony seems to be in trouble .

 

[Neo Blaster]

So this confirms the Github leaks were true? PS5 only 9tf?

 

[DeepEnigma]

The context is Sony seems to be in trouble .

Much concern, many FUDs.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

$550 according to a vendor's Tweet. But I don't care since the XSX has RDNA 2.

That's dirt-cheap, I would easily pay beyond $1000 for the same specs if I had to. Amazing job, Phil.

 

[thebigmanjosh]

Yeah he was the first one to tell me 11 ish TFs and those crazy techs at MS pulled off that jump to 12.

I am here to take my medicine for doubting they would reach 12, poke me with sticks and throw rocks at me, I deserve it

So does this confirmation widen the gap now or do you still believe there will be a negligible difference in overall performance?

 

[Agnostic2020]

TimDog redeemed (and lurking)

Let's see if he keeps lurking after ps5 announcement. No one doubted him for 12 tf rdna xsx . Klee already confirmed that literally 2 second after TGA show before a single person confirms it .

klee is rising haha

 

[HawarMiran]

The context is Sony seems to be in trouble .

Keep wishing. Maybe it will become true

 

[The Mad Draklor]

The context is Sony seems to be in trouble .

Based on....?

 

[On Demand]

OsirisBlack With your recent update about the latest XBSX devkit being ahead in terms of sheer power, does that include ray tracing and SSD? Or is the PS5 still more advanced in those areas?

Your last posted specs were 11.6 and 12.2tf. If XBSX is now, currently, ahead, does that mean it's above 12.2tf?

12.2tf is devekit 2 PS5? Devkit 3 only Sony studios have access?

 

[Entroyp]

Wasnt that one of the few leaks that said 12tf for XSX and 9.2tf for PS5?

I'm now curious about this leak. It might be the one.

 

[sinnergy]

Like I said 50 MHz extra is 1 tf for MS.

looks like they did that.

now for the E3 , 50 MHz upclock to pass PS5.

 

[Investor9872]

I have to admit I am surprised it did actually hit 12 as I thought it would be slightly under that.

And RDNA 2?

Day freakin 0 for me on that beast.

Now we wait for Sony and more importantly pricing.

Looks like I'll finally be picking up an Xbox as well as the PS5. It will be my first XBox since the 360.

 

[demigod]

Oh now it's confirmed that its rdna 2? Guess which fake MS insider said it was rdna 1 and that he also had specs for PS5? Hmgqq.

 

[xool]

Betting on some SONY info before the end of the month. MS probably knows it and getting in a preemptive 12TF before the hype machine turns its spotlights on the other team.

 

[Gudji]

Boom! Kleegamefan was right about this. Hope he is also right about PS5.

I told ya the guy wasn't full of shit.

I bet he has target specs to both consoles, that's why he kept saying PS5 was slightly higher. Either sony will be able to reach it or not, yet to be seen.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

So does this confirmation widen the gap now or do you still believe there will be a negligible difference in overall performance?

I still think they are super close that seems to be the consensus.

 

[Chromata]

Didn't expect to actually get a tflop confirmation any time soon, but holy cow that's some incredible power.

 

[Investor9872]

That's dirt-cheap, I would easily pay beyond $1000 for the same specs if I had to. Amazing job, Phil.

Yeah. No.

 

[DrDamn]

What do you mean?
Xbox One X is a 6TF GCN (polaris) based box. MS says the Series X is twice that in performance and in the same breath states 12TF.
I'm just stating the obvious that they use GCN numbers to describe TF performance.

It's 12TF. Clearly stated in the picture not in comparison to the X1X. It's not some weird 12TF GCN equivalent.

 

[On Demand]

I told ya the guy wasn't full of shit.

I bet he has target specs to both consoles, that's why he kept saying PS5 was slightly higher. Either sony will be able to reach it or not, yet to be seen.

Correct. And he already said the GitHub specs doesn't match what he has for PS5.

 

[Neo Blaster]

So does this confirmation widen the gap now or do you still believe there will be a negligible difference in overall performance?

How can you talk about confirmation if we don't know Sony flops yet?

 

[Disco_]

Wasnt that one of the few leaks that said 12tf for XSX and 9.2tf for PS5?

No. Github only had CU count for arden.

 

[BattleScar]

They didn't reveal the specs during a massive keynote speech. Where the fuck is all that concern trolling about reveals gone now?

 

[Falc67]

What do you mean?
Xbox One X is a 6TF GCN (polaris) based box. MS says the Series X is twice that in performance and in the same breath states 12TF.
I'm just stating the obvious that they use GCN numbers to describe TF performance.

Lol they've just stated 12TF RDNA 2, what more do you want?

 

[The Mad Draklor]

Correct. And he already said the GitHub specs doesn't match what he has for PS5.

And as Heisenberg stated, the consensus is that both consoles are close in power, which is another point against the Github leak.

 

[Dabaus]

The silence coming from sony is deafening. The lack of communication is ps3 levels of hubris. Hopefully a disgruntled employee can give us a peak at whats going on behind the scenes. I bet its pure chaos right now.

 

[newtonfb]

I'm now curious about this leak. It might be the one.

Im just talking about this. Not saying its concrete obviously... Just interesting that it did end up being 12TF

 

[Gudji]

And as Heisenberg stated, the consensus is that both consoles are close in power, which is another point against the Github leak.

Yup, something klee also said multiple times. Also Matt.

 

[01011001]

I completely missed the part where they straight up also say it's RDNA 2... this is actually crazy... I absolutely was still expecting RDNA 1 at 9.x TF for both consoles...

BUT HALLELUJAH WE FINALLY HAVE FUCKING NUMBERS DIRECTLY FROM THE SOURCE!

now please sony! do the same! this thread is already way too big and we are exhausted!

 

[gamechanger87]

No. Github only had CU count for arden.

Per the GH, we are likely looking at 56CU at~1.7MHZ.

 

[chemical boy]

Oh now it's confirmed that its rdna 2? Guess which fake MS insider said it was rdna 1 and that he also had specs for PS5? Hmgqq.

I came to say this, you read my mind.

 

[Fun Fanboy]

TimDog smiling right now. Dealer has always known. These guys have inside sources. Good to see the tiny reveal this morning.

 

[pawel86ck]

Many people were saying there's no way Phil was talking about TFLOPS, because 12TF .... so and so

Comments today will be pleasure to read.

12TF RDNA2 should be even faster than RDNA1, amazing news.

 

[01011001]

No. Github only had CU count for arden.

yes but it was pretty easy to extrapolate the likely TF numbers from that. even a relatively normal clock speed of 1.7ghz would give you 12TF with the number of CUs listed.

and 1.7GHz is a pretty standard clockrate for modern GPUs

 

[Classicrockfan]

Now we wait for games and preorders at e3 for xbox.

 

[Mr Moose]

TimDog smiling right now. Dealer has always known. These guys have inside sources. Good to see the tiny reveal this morning.

TimDog doesn't know shit, he has no sources other than his ass. All he did was the math, like Phil said.