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[DrDamn]

Interesting... did you also see one of the comments with the link to Sony Japan page, where it states RDNA. Why doesn't it say RDNA2? What do the insiders think of this?

次世代コンソールゲーム機 「プレイステーション 5」に名称決定 2020年年末商戦期に発売

ソニー・インタラクティブエンタテインメント（SIE）は、次世代コンソールゲーム機の名称を「プレイステーション 5」（PS5）に決定し、2020年の年末商戦期に発売することをお知らせいたします。

www.sie.com

AMD themselves don't seem all that clear on the distinction between RDNA, Navi, RDNA2 and next gen RDNA - so how is anyone else meant to be?

 

[01011001]

Gotta be honest, really surprised control still isn't on gamepass. This doesn't mean it won't go or can't go, but I'm very surprised it's not there yet still.

I wanna bet that this is because Microsoft want's it to be in the PC Game Pass at the same time if possible and they need to wait until the Epic Store deal runs out.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Interesting... did you also see one of the comments with the link to Sony Japan page, where it states RDNA. Why doesn't it say RDNA2? What do the insiders think of this?

次世代コンソールゲーム機 「プレイステーション 5」に名称決定 2020年年末商戦期に発売

ソニー・インタラクティブエンタテインメント（SIE）は、次世代コンソールゲーム機の名称を「プレイステーション 5」（PS5）に決定し、2020年の年末商戦期に発売することをお知らせいたします。

www.sie.com

MS's said that as well early on after the Wired article from Sony.

AMD doesn't even really break it down with the 2 either. It's just called RDNA, the 2 will mainly be talking points more than registered trademarked like RDNA blanket is.

They will just put their revisions in the card specs like GCN, GCN 1.1, etc..

Maybe Sony finally bought Remedy just so Control would be considered a 1st party game and they will have something else to put in PSNow while their other 1st party studios are busy porting their games to pc before all going to gamepass! Heh

Huh?

 

[Neo Blaster]

AMD themselves don't seem all that clear on the distinction between RDNA, Navi, RDNA2 and next gen RDNA - so how is anyone else meant to be?

Curiously, the Reddit rumor says RDNA 2 is EXCLUSIVE to Xbox and PC.

'They show off their raytracing solution, built together with AMD for native DXR hardware support. 30 to 50 % more efficient (depending on workload/use case) than RTX implementation of DXR. RDNA2 was created exclusively for Microsoft and high power Radeon GPUs, includes deep learning AI for upscaling, animation interpolation (adding 60 fps support to 30 fps games) and highly varied NPC intelligence.'

 

[FacelessSamurai]

So Control to PS Now before Game Pass? or is it also available in Game Pass and also didn't Phil Spencer say Control will be joining gamepass?

I mean, Sony did have the deal for the exclusive pre-order DLC and such, so I guess it could make sense to have the game come to PSNow first.

 

[FranXico]

Maybe Sony finally bought Remedy just so Control would be considered a 1st party game and they will have something else to put in PSNow while their other 1st party studios are busy porting their games to pc before all going to gamepass! Heh

LOL. No.

 

[pd9696]

 

[Gavin Stevens]

Maybe Sony finally bought Remedy just so Control would be considered a 1st party game and they will have something else to put in PSNow while their other 1st party studios are busy porting their games to pc before all going to gamepass! Heh

 

[David Ricardo]

Curiously, the Reddit rumor says RDNA 2 is EXCLUSIVE to Xbox and PC.

'They show off their raytracing solution, built together with AMD for native DXR hardware support. 30 to 50 % more efficient (depending on workload/use case) than RTX implementation of DXR. RDNA2 was created exclusively for Microsoft and high power Radeon GPUs, includes deep learning AI for upscaling, animation interpolation (adding 60 fps support to 30 fps games) and highly varied NPC intelligence.'

If it's exclusive to Xbox, why does PS5 have RDNA 2 features like ray tracing?

 

[LED Guy?]

I hope most of you know that OsirisBlack is a liar and I don't understand why he's allowed to run around unchecked. You guys have fun though.

Umm..... Mod of War is the moderator on here and he checked OsirisBlack and said he has provided his sources which are credible.

 

[LED Guy?]

Curiously, the Reddit rumor says RDNA 2 is EXCLUSIVE to Xbox and PC.

'They show off their raytracing solution, built together with AMD for native DXR hardware support. 30 to 50 % more efficient (depending on workload/use case) than RTX implementation of DXR. RDNA2 was created exclusively for Microsoft and high power Radeon GPUs, includes deep learning AI for upscaling, animation interpolation (adding 60 fps support to 30 fps games) and highly varied NPC intelligence.'

No, AMD just confirmed this......this quote is straight from AMD themselves.

"AMD AS A COMPANY…STRONGLY BELIEVES IN THE VALUE AND CAPABILITY OF RAYTRACING. RDNA 2, THE NEXT-GEN, WILL SUPPORT RAYTRACING. BOTH THE NEXT-GEN XBOX AND PLAYSTATION WILL SUPPORT HARDWARE RAYTRACING WITH RADEON NATIVELY. WE WILL BE SURE TO HAVE THE CONTENT THAT GAMERS CAN ACTUALLY USE TO RUN ON THOSE GPUS"


"WE BELIEVE IN OUR RAYTRACING, AND WE WILL HAVE IT WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT."

Mithun Chandrashekhar, Product Management Lead, AMD.

AMD Ray Tracing Will Arrive "When The Time is Right" - Next-Gen Raytracing Addressed

AMD has said in a recent briefing that raytracing will arrive on their cards "when the time is right". Here's what that means.

www.techquila.co.in

 

[it_wasn't_me]

If it's exclusive to Xbox, why does PS5 have RDNA 2 features like ray tracing?

Same crap people said that VRS is exclusive to Xbox because it was patented.

 

[Neo Blaster]

No, AMD just confirmed this......this quote is straight from AMD themselves.

"AMD AS A COMPANY…STRONGLY BELIEVES IN THE VALUE AND CAPABILITY OF RAYTRACING. RDNA 2, THE NEXT-GEN, WILL SUPPORT RAYTRACING. BOTH THE NEXT-GEN XBOX AND PLAYSTATION WILL SUPPORT HARDWARE RAYTRACING WITH RADEON NATIVELY. WE WILL BE SURE TO HAVE THE CONTENT THAT GAMERS CAN ACTUALLY USE TO RUN ON THOSE GPUS"


"WE BELIEVE IN OUR RAYTRACING, AND WE WILL HAVE IT WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT."

Mithun Chandrashekhar, Product Management Lead, AMD.

AMD Ray Tracing Will Arrive "When The Time is Right" - Next-Gen Raytracing Addressed

AMD has said in a recent briefing that raytracing will arrive on their cards "when the time is right". Here's what that means.

www.techquila.co.in

Thank God we only need to wait 2 days to know the truth.

 

[Physiognomonics]

I can still read "XDev + CoDev" in his linkedin account. Seems Tommy Fisher could be right.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/aguariguata/

Hurry guys if you want to screenshot it before it gets removed^^

 

[johnjohn]

Microsoft attends AMD Financial Day (RDNA2)

Rumors MS will show FM8 and FH4 using RT/VRS/SSR on AMD's Financial event.

Bombs are about to drop.

 

[DrDamn]

...

Could you post links rather than screen grabs please? Big long pictures are messing up my page viewing. Ta.

Rumor: Confirmation of Remedy Entertainment working on a PlayStation exclusive just appeared. - Jack of All Controllers

Remedy Entertainment was visited by Sony Interactive Entertainment’s Head of Indies Shuhei Yoshida in the past, and XDEV Europe, the external development branch for PlayStation in Europe has Retweeted the …

jackofallcontrollers.com

 

[Agnostic2020]

I can still read "XDev + CoDev" in his linkedin account. Seems Tommy Fisher could be right.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/aguariguata/

Hurry guys if you want to screenshot it before it gets removed^^

it could also be collaboration between PS europe and remedy

 

[FacelessSamurai]

No, AMD just confirmed this......this quote is straight from AMD themselves.

"AMD AS A COMPANY…STRONGLY BELIEVES IN THE VALUE AND CAPABILITY OF RAYTRACING. RDNA 2, THE NEXT-GEN, WILL SUPPORT RAYTRACING. BOTH THE NEXT-GEN XBOX AND PLAYSTATION WILL SUPPORT HARDWARE RAYTRACING WITH RADEON NATIVELY. WE WILL BE SURE TO HAVE THE CONTENT THAT GAMERS CAN ACTUALLY USE TO RUN ON THOSE GPUS"


"WE BELIEVE IN OUR RAYTRACING, AND WE WILL HAVE IT WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT."

Mithun Chandrashekhar, Product Management Lead, AMD.

AMD Ray Tracing Will Arrive "When The Time is Right" - Next-Gen Raytracing Addressed

AMD has said in a recent briefing that raytracing will arrive on their cards "when the time is right". Here's what that means.

www.techquila.co.in

Its says that both RDNA2 and the next gen (Xbox and PS5) will support RT. It doesn't say that all next-gen is RDNA2. PS5 could be RDNA1 with some RDNA2 features. No reason to believe it isn't RDNA2 because it could very well be, but until confirmed by Sony themselves, all we know is that it is RDNA1.

 

[ethomaz]

Interesting... did you also see one of the comments with the link to Sony Japan page, where it states RDNA. Why doesn't it say RDNA2? What do the insiders think of this?

次世代コンソールゲーム機 「プレイステーション 5」に名称決定 2020年年末商戦期に発売

ソニー・インタラクティブエンタテインメント（SIE）は、次世代コンソールゲーム機の名称を「プレイステーション 5」（PS5）に決定し、2020年の年末商戦期に発売することをお知らせいたします。

www.sie.com

Before Feb MS just said RDNA too just like that old Sony article.

 

[01011001]

If it's exclusive to Xbox, why does PS5 have RDNA 2 features like ray tracing?

because raytracing has nothing to do with RDNA2.
there will most likely be RDNA2 graphics cards on PC with no Raytracing, just like there are Nvidia "Turing" graphics cards with no Raytracing.

it just happens that RDNA2 graphics cards will be the first to have added RayTracing hardware... that's literally all it is.

 

[LED Guy?]

Its says that both RDNA2 and the next gen (Xbox and PS5) will support RT. It doesn't say that all next-gen is RDNA2. PS5 could be RDNA1 with some RDNA2 features. No reason to believe it isn't RDNA2 because it could very well be, but until confirmed by Sony themselves, all we know is that it is RDNA1.

No reason it would be RDNA 1, they even put PS5 and XSX on the same sentence, it wouldn't be RDNA 2.

 

[RaySoft]

Interesting... did you also see one of the comments with the link to Sony Japan page, where it states RDNA. Why doesn't it say RDNA2? What do the insiders think of this?

次世代コンソールゲーム機 「プレイステーション 5」に名称決定 2020年年末商戦期に発売

ソニー・インタラクティブエンタテインメント（SIE）は、次世代コンソールゲーム機の名称を「プレイステーション 5」（PS5）に決定し、2020年の年末商戦期に発売することをお知らせいたします。

www.sie.com

Look at the date on the page.. Hint: It's old (2019年10月8日)
It's from the time around the Wired articles where they said RDNA. For a more specific description, we have to wait for the announcement.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Its says that both RDNA2 and the next gen (Xbox and PS5) will support RT. It doesn't say that all next-gen is RDNA2. PS5 could be RDNA1 with some RDNA2 features. No reason to believe it isn't RDNA2 because it could very well be, but until confirmed by Sony themselves, all we know is that it is RDNA1.

No, we know it is RDNA, we don't know the version. RDNA is a blanket microarchitecture much like GCN was. You only saw the versions on the card specs themselves or console breakdowns, AMD always used the blanket (umbrella) term for the architecture family.

 

[Agnostic2020]

because raytracing has nothing to do with RDNA2.
there will most likely be RDNA2 graphics cards on PC with no Raytracing, just like there are Nvidia "Turing" graphics cards with no Raytracing.

it just happens that RDNA2 graphics cards will be the first to have added RayTracing hardware... that's literally all it is.

RT and VRS are 80% of RDNA 2 and other 20% is 7nm EUV

 

[ethomaz]

because raytracing has nothing to do with RDNA2.
there will most likely be RDNA2 graphics cards on PC with no Raytracing, just like there are Nvidia "Turing" graphics cards with no Raytracing.

it just happens that RDNA2 graphics cards will be the first to have added RayTracing hardware... that's literally all it is.

AMD themselves says RDNA 2 is the revision of RDNA to add support to Ray-tracing lol
That since RDNA release.

 

[Moridianae]

Pretty safe bet that both systems utilize functionality of RDNA2, if not fully-fledged due to customized GPUs, as is tradition for consoles.

Today is March 3rd here in the US. Anybody hungry for a Nothing burger? Sony dishing those gourmet delicacies out every day of late, lol.

 

[01011001]

RT and VRS are 80% of RDNA 2 and other 20% is 7nm EUV

Raytracing is still only circumstantially part of RDNA2 simply because this is how long it took AMD to react to Nvidia.

there is nothing about RDNA2 that makes it Raytracing compatible... it might have optimisations to support it better but that's about it

 

[Agnostic2020]

Raytracing is still only circumstantially part of RDNA2 simply because this is how long it took AMD to react to Nvidia.

there is nothing about RDNA2 that makes it Raytracing compatible... it might have optimisations to support it better but that's about it

amd disagrees with you. AMD main point for RDNA 2 is RT

 

[SleepDoctor]

Surprise Surprise

"Bu bu but its bad for gaming"

 

[DaMonsta]

The argument over RDNA 1 or 2 is silly.

The chips in the consoles are custom anyway. PS5 will have RT and that's all that matters.

 

[01011001]

amd disagrees with you. AMD main point for RDNA 2 is RT

no this actually agrees with my point. this tells me RDNA2 is basically the same as RDNA1, with the only difference being the manufacturing process.

this tells you that the raytracing hardware is basically just an attachment to an existing architecture.

I bet RDNA2 is also a bit more efficient but the raytracing hardware is not married to RDNA2 it just happens to hit the market at the same time as RDNA2 does

 

[hemo memo]

Remedy is a public traded company. If they get bought we would know. Simple as that.

 

[splattered]

No, AMD just confirmed this......this quote is straight from AMD themselves.

"AMD AS A COMPANY…STRONGLY BELIEVES IN THE VALUE AND CAPABILITY OF RAYTRACING. RDNA 2, THE NEXT-GEN, WILL SUPPORT RAYTRACING. BOTH THE NEXT-GEN XBOX AND PLAYSTATION WILL SUPPORT HARDWARE RAYTRACING WITH RADEON NATIVELY. WE WILL BE SURE TO HAVE THE CONTENT THAT GAMERS CAN ACTUALLY USE TO RUN ON THOSE GPUS"


"WE BELIEVE IN OUR RAYTRACING, AND WE WILL HAVE IT WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT."

Mithun Chandrashekhar, Product Management Lead, AMD.

AMD Ray Tracing Will Arrive "When The Time is Right" - Next-Gen Raytracing Addressed

AMD has said in a recent briefing that raytracing will arrive on their cards "when the time is right". Here's what that means.

www.techquila.co.in

Eh? I thought people analyzed this article and debunked it as a misquote or cherry picking or something?

 

[webber]

The way green team is clinging to 12TF like there's nothing else of value...
... PS5 better be 9.2TF levels of weak so they can find some peace....
Because if PS5 has more TF than XSeX blue team is going to Deus Vult so hard you all gonna die.

 

[nikolino840]

The way green team is clinging to 12TF like there's nothing else of value...
... PS5 better be 9.2TF levels of weak so they can find some peace....
Because if PS5 has more TF than XSeX blue team is going to Deus Vult so hard you all gonna die.

 

[FeiRR]

PS Now isn't even available everywhere. If Sony wants to push that service, they should do something about it. I have no data caps so I can download whatever I want but, well. That's why I got Game Pass.

 

[Mr. PlayStation]

Not to veer off-topic, but PS Now on PS4 will allow me to download those PS4 games onto my console and play them natively right instead of stream?

 

[FranXico]

Not to veer off-topic, but PS Now on PS4 will allow me to download those PS4 games onto my console and play them natively right instead of stream?

That's right.

 

[Agnostic2020]

PS Now isn't even available everywhere. If Sony wants to push that service, they should do something about it. I have no data caps so I can download whatever I want but, well. That's why I got Game Pass.

i m sure by end of this year it will be available everywhere

 

[M.Night Shyamalan]

He didn't even got a warn for this ? he has a Digital Foundry tag under his avator. He shouldn't insinuate things like that. That's a console warring inflammatory post as he 100% knows that PS5 will use Zen 2. He is just spreading FUD as any typical console warrior.

Yes.

 

[Gamernyc78]

Oh I see we are back to removing features from psv Console warriors never cease their relentless crusade. Phil better send you a free lockhart

 

[mm3188-at]

So here in Austria it is just before 3 p.m. and we still have March 3rd. If an announcement comes, then today at 10 or 11 p.m. in the evening of my time (Central European Time). It has always been that way. Right or am I right?

Of course the question arises, why should Sony announce something today or this week?

 

[MARTYWOLF]

Before Feb MS just said RDNA too just like that old Sony article.

Before MS used "next gen rdna"?

 

[Neo Blaster]

Not to veer off-topic, but PS Now on PS4 will allow me to download those PS4 games onto my console and play them natively right instead of stream?

Yes, if they are PS4 games. PS3 games are streaming-only.

 

[jackets with pockets]

 

[Shio]

You know how companies buy timed exclusivity for games and as such are only allowed to mention said games and their competitor (even though they may still be getting the game at a later time) is not allowed to mention it.... What if there was such a thing (there might be?) in regards to hardware?? What if there was some deal where only one party was allowed to mention specifics on hardware for a set amount of time (drum up publicity) and the other party was not. Then after that set time bam.. they are allowed to reveal the details. Only to find out that the details between the two parties were the same all along!. The exclusivity period allows the party to build up positive publicity and spread misinformation towards the other party.

 

[01011001]

Before Feb MS just said RDNA too just like that old Sony article.

they didn't they always called it "Next Generation RDNA", which is the exact same terminology AMD also used many times to refer to RDNA2

 

[Bo_Hazem]

I hope most of you know that OsirisBlack is a liar and I don't understand why he's allowed to run around unchecked. You guys have fun though.

 

[M-V2]

Again didn't happen anything...

 

[Agnostic2020]

Again didn't happen anything...

Did they post the first post ?lol