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[LED Guy?]

Come on now, while it's not looking good for Tommy, Heinsenberg was told by a SIE employee two or three weeks ago that the PS5 was 9.2 TFs, when it's 100% certain it isn't as BGs has stated many times now.

Tommy might be an unwitting partner in some more Sony based trolling.

I think at the very least, should he choice to, he should stick around until the reveal, if anything he's said is true, then you cannot really argue he's a legit insider in my opinion.

No man, BGs and OsirisBlack are saying it is NOT 9.2 TFs, it is higher than that, in the 12 TFs numbers, that source that HeisenbergFX4 was talking about is a "crazy birdie" that Heisenberg doesn't really rely on him a 100% because most of his other sources are telling him that it is not 9.2 TFs after all.

 

[VanSiriusGabriel]

Not without blatantly giving up my source their first and last name and their place of work so .... no.

Just asking: if I remember correctly you played a demo of a game, however you said you never used or directly saw the DS5, so the demo was running on PC or SeX? What control system where you using?

 

[hardseppo]

People were just praising "Tommy" like he was a god. Even after the bullshit Feb reveal and not self banning himself.

Like I said tho, fanboys will go with anything that fits their narrative. I could probably make alt and say a couple things like "ps5 20tf lolz xbots fail" and a few "special" people here would run with it lol.

Well, let's take it up another notch. Tommy Fisher was quite active in the past days, OsirisBlack was not. Now Osiris today is posting more often after TF ban than in the past week... coincidence? Who to believe anymore?

I want hard facts.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Well, let's take it up another notch. Tommy Fisher was quite active in the past days, OsirisBlack was not. Now Osiris today is posting more often after TF ban than in the past week... coincidence? Who to believe anymore?

I want hard facts.

What is this 1992 where he has to run across town to a different computer?

You can literally be on 10 accounts on a smart phone at the same time.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

The most logical explanation I've heard yet.

We've had countless logical explanations on this form and Resetera regarding this issue. It was never going to change people's minds because the sole purpose of holding onto the github data as 100% fact and confirmation of the final chips is trolling and nothing but trolling.

 

[SleepDoctor]

Well, let's take it up another notch. Tommy Fisher was quite active in the past days, OsirisBlack was not. Now Osiris today is posting more often after TF ban than in the past week... coincidence? Who to believe anymore?

I want hard facts.

We all do but we honestly won't get em till something is official from Sony. Its Osiris had Tommy in the insider club when he wasn't even vetted tho. But im more reserved about believing any random "insider" or bashing em either. Its just "wait and see" for me.

 

[OrionNebula]

Well, let's take it up another notch. Tommy Fisher was quite active in the past days, OsirisBlack was not. Now Osiris today is posting more often after TF ban than in the past week... coincidence? Who to believe anymore?

I want hard facts.

What are you saying exactly?

 

[Mriverz]

OsirisBlack You are one of the prophets in the Ps5 book of Leaker Revelations. Any Nay sayer will be dealt with fire and burning xboxs in the lake of cornoavirus which Microsoft created o_o!

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

I will be back after the full PS5 reveal.

Never really intended for this to go this far and sure wasn't in it for the attention.

 

[pawel86ck]

Actually what I said was.

"I'm going to help dig yourself out of this hole, remember when someone (I have no idea who) said they heard the machines were 11.6 and 12.4 sometime last year? That number was SPOT ON at that time with PSV having a slight lead but also having heat and sound issues. (Heat and sound are no longer issues) MS announces 12 TF hey look a .4 increase not bad at all they made it. BOTH are > 10 (said this last year) with PSV still having a slight advantage. (Said this last year also.) Both were aiming for a very high number (13) and from what I can gather one of them may have actually hit that number. (Its not MS) Either way BOTH consoles are stupidly powerful and still very close. 12 vs 12.4 or 13.2 (Within 1TF of the numbers with a . up in both cases not down) isn't bad at all."

That's me doubling down on 12.4 (which i said from the get go) or Higher. Nothing lower.

Thank you for the clarification. So either 12.4TF or 13.2TF. I say both numbers looks impressive (for a console). I could never trust Tommy Fake Fisher, however your posts looks way more legit, so for now I can trust you

 

[johnjohn]

So PS5 between 10-12tfs and Series X at or above 12tfs.

 

[VanSiriusGabriel]

Well, let's take it up another notch. Tommy Fisher was quite active in the past days, OsirisBlack was not. Now Osiris today is posting more often after TF ban than in the past week... coincidence? Who to believe anymore?

I want hard facts.

Then get hired by Sony or buy viagra. Even "big" guys like Jason do not offers absolute evidence of what they are saying, maybe because they are full of shit or because they just can't due to practical reasons.
Insiders do not exist to give up their job and connections on Internet, they are jurnalists or developers which, as a mere plus, share some infos. They do it because they KNOW they are true or just for trolling, to them proving something is irrelevant both ways, that's it.

 

[OsirisBlack]

I will be back after the full PS5 reveal.

Never really intended for this to go this far and sure wasn't in it for the attention.

Anyone taking their time to find and bother you outside of this forum is a complete and utter loser. I am really sorry man.

 

[Mod of War]

The whole Tommy Fisher debacle should motivate GAF to improve on it's vetting process. It can't be real that one thing he got right, paved the way for all this bullshit he caused in this thread.

People were attacked AND banned, because they doubted him. This is not right.

Nobody was attacked and banned for doubting him. Stop making up stories.

He was also never vetted which has been proven countless times.

 

[RasAlGhoul]

I will be back after the full PS5 reveal.

Never really intended for this to go this far and sure wasn't in it for the attention.

Don't blame you. A lot of the people here don't really want to hear what you know.

They want you to tell them what they want to hear. And when you don't they throw tantrums like little children.

 

[Kazekage1981]

The PS5 controller pics were fake the moment mod of war posted them. In HeisenbergFX4 I trust. For all Sony fans hoping PS5 will be 13 TFLOPS, please keep your expectations in check, because if its anything less than 13 it is going to crush your heart (unless if its 12 TFLOPS, then its just meh)

Tommy Fischer smelled of bullshit from the beginning and my gut instinct was right. I am no longer gonna ignore my gut feelings. My gut is telling me PS5 is going to be between 10-11 TFLOPS.

Pleasebeexcited.gif.

 

[hardseppo]

Nobody was attacked or banned for doubting him. Stop making up stories.

He was also never vetted which has been proven countless times.

So if he wasn't vetted, why did you let him go on that long?

 

[bitbydeath]

Here you go...

Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

AMD has said PS5 has hardware ray tracing? The problem I have with this is he didn't strike me as all that confident about it. I know it might seem silly, but Microsoft and AMD have basically been screaming hardware ray tracing from the mountain tops for Xbox series X, whereas Sony so far...

www.neogaf.com

Which means if it's pulling data then the data people are taking for granted actually belongs to both Arden and Oberon and therefore again cannot be used in any form as what PS5 ever was or has been.

That said, I wouldn't be surprised if it was fake given how hard certain people are pushing it.

 

[FrozenFlame]

I will be back after the full PS5 reveal.

Never really intended for this to go this far and sure wasn't in it for the attention.

Wait... Before you go... When will we see you again?*

* - As in, the exact date.

 

[Gamernyc78]

The PS5 controller pics were fake the moment mod of war posted them. In HeisenbergFX4 I trust. For all Sony fans hoping PS5 will be 13 TFLOPS, please keep your expectations in check, because if its anything less than 13 it is going to crush your heart (unless if its 12 TFLOPS, then its just meh)

Tommy Fischer smelled of bullshit from the beginning and my gut instinct was right. I am no longer gonna ignore my gut feelings. My gut is telling me PS5 is going to be between 10-11 TFLOPS.

Pleasebeexcited.gif.

Crush whose heart? Stop talking nonsense. Most Sony fans here are sure and are happy with psv being double digits. You need to swing tht msg to the github trolls. As Sony fans thy know tht a tera flop or two difference will be fine as Sony developers like Naughty Dog will punch games way above their weight. Sony fans here have had almost uniformly the same msg "we don't care if it isn't really stronger we just know it won't be just 9tf, it'll be double digits".

 

[Hawking Radiation]

yep. i remember how mod of war tried many times to vet him, and even threatened to turn him over to evillore but the fucker never gave his sources. See below.





Looks like Tommy broke himself.

I had no idea Osiris wasnt verified either, but i just realized he doesnt have a verified tag either. Damn.

He did that to himself ages ago.
Some people were just stupid enough to keep hanging on his every 'insider' word.

Actually what I said was.

"I'm going to help dig yourself out of this hole, remember when someone (I have no idea who) said they heard the machines were 11.6 and 12.4 sometime last year? That number was SPOT ON at that time with PSV having a slight lead but also having heat and sound issues. (Heat and sound are no longer issues) MS announces 12 TF hey look a .4 increase not bad at all they made it. BOTH are > 10 (said this last year) with PSV still having a slight advantage. (Said this last year also.) Both were aiming for a very high number (13) and from what I can gather one of them may have actually hit that number. (Its not MS) Either way BOTH consoles are stupidly powerful and still very close. 12 vs 12.4 or 13.2 (Within 1TF of the numbers with a . up in both cases not down) isn't bad at all."

That's me doubling down on 12.4 (which i said from the get go) or Higher. Nothing lower.

Wow that's crazy.

Honestly think Sony will try to hit 13TF and use that in their marketing if MS settles on 12TF. Either way i can't wait for both and its insane that the gap is less than 1TF ))))))

 

[Elysiumcore]

Anything Above 10 TF is solid. I don't know why everyone has their panties in a bunch.... PS5 will be an amazing console and we will get the info soon. Yes waiting sucks.. but no point in getting upset over things we can't control

 

[Mod of War]

So if he wasn't vetted, why did you let him go on that long?

Once again, we made countless posts saying he wasn't vetted. Nobody has anyone else to blame but themselves.

He also never got really elaborate. Just one sentence drops with "heard it hear first".

You know how many people do that on websites daily especially here? How many "bookmark this post" happens?

 

[FERN]

So if he wasn't vetted, why did you let him go on that long?

Right?
Vetted or not he was claiming insider knowledge which turned out to be utter bullshit, should be given the boot.

 

[Gamernyc78]

So if he wasn't vetted, why did you let him go on that long?

Bro this has been discussed before and he made several post why in the past.

 

[IntentionalPun]

The real question is why anyone was hyped for a controller picture in the first place lol

 

[hardseppo]

Once again, we made countless posts saying he wasn't vetted. Nobody has anyone else to blame but themselves.

He also never got really elaborate. Just one sentence drops with "heard it hear first".

You know how many people do that on websites daily especially here? How many "bookmark this post" happens?

I see what you mean. But a proper vetting process is what makes us believe these guys. And some seem to have more freedom than others in their "predictions"... vetted or not

 

[Kazekage1981]

Crush whose heart? Stop talking nonsense. Most Sony fans here are sure and are happy with psv being double digits. You need to swing tht msg to the github trolls. As Sony fans thy know tht a tera flop or two dufference will be fine as Sony developers like Naughty Dog will punch games way above its weight.

Maybe I am projecting my heart to everyone elses

 

[VanSiriusGabriel]

Also I suggest people to calm the fuck down, we had articles last year, in 2013 we got the reveal the 20th Feb, we're not even TWO WEEKS past that line now and some folks are going around naked with the sign "end is here", the hell?
There is NOTHING to be so impatient about: Internet is just worst than ever and we all feel the fake urgency to know something, and after that the next thing and then the next one, it will never end, deal with it.
We will get the consoles, we will get the games, we will get a boner.

 

[Gamernyc78]

Once again, we made countless posts saying he wasn't vetted. Nobody has anyone else to blame but themselves.

He also never got really elaborate. Just one sentence drops with "heard it hear first".

You know how many people do that on websites daily especially here? How many "bookmark this post" happens?

The real question is why anyone was hyped for a controller picture in the first place lol

Lol I knkw I even said "keep tht shit"

 

[icerock]

The most logical explanation I've heard yet.

Cheers for that, but the same explanation has been relayed by more informative people than me, multiple times, on this forum, and many others.

When I dug into the data myself, I was convinced we were going to see a sub ~10TF PS5 given how many things lined up with a previous Flute leak. But, the data didn't tell me anything on the total CU count, and details regarding RT and VRS were also found to be lacking. As of January, we came to know there have been multiple revisions and Oberon is now at E0 (Keep in mind, Github has data on Oberon A0). Normally, the CU counts don't change between revisions, but A->E implies a significant stepping. While I can make an educated guess on total CU count in Oberon A0 (40); I can't do the same for revisions on Oberon after that, not least the E0. I mean who the fuck knows the makeup of that iGPU?

Going by precedents, I'd be inclined to believe the CU count remained the same if it were not for E0 stepping and Schreier dropping a bomb by saying that PS5 (along with XsX) is stronger than RTX2080. Oberon A0 is most certainly not.

 

[Mod of War]

I see what you mean. But a proper vetting process is what makes us believe these guys. And some seem to have more freedom than others in their "predictions"...

I've made many posts and people already re-quoted them stating that he was never vetted.

He was never vetted. He was never vetted. He was never vetted.

We do have a process, he was never vetted.

 

[Gediminas]

I will be back after the full PS5 reveal.

Never really intended for this to go this far and sure wasn't in it for the attention.

so after 2 days?

 

[DJ12]

to be clear, heisenberg was told ps5 was 9.5 tflops and we dont know if his source is from SIE.

Mod of War was not referring to my buddy at SIE who is just a game dev I should have added.

Yeah I don't push much for info one is a Sony guy at 9.5 and the other is not, I take what they give me.

Almost could lead one to believe the whole 9.5 PS5 and 12 Xbox if both was not telling me they are super close in power.

 

[Self High Five]

Right?
Vetted or not he was claiming insider knowledge which turned out to be utter bullshit, should be given the boot.

Come on with that avi

 

[HawarMiran]

I am out until the reveal. Another date another crush of hopes. Fuck Sony!!!

 

[Kazekage1981]

I've made many posts and people already re-quoted them stating that he was never vetted.

He was never vetted. He was never vetted. He was never vetted.

We do have a process, he was never vetted.

Are you going to ban him? Or is he banned now? Or are you going to let him explain his shenanigans?

 

[hardseppo]

I've made many posts and people already re-quoted them stating that he was never vetted.

He was never vetted. He was never vetted. He was never vetted.

We do have a process, he was never vetted.

Finally we are clear. So he wasn't vetted. Why wasn't he banned after his first 1-3 wrong predictions then?

 

[OrionNebula]

Wait... Before you go... When will we see you again?*

* - As in, the exact date.

Hahaha! That's fucking awesome

 

[Mod of War]

Finally we are clear. So he wasn't vetted. Why wasn't he banned after his first 1-3 wrong predictions then?

Because he was never vetted, it's a speculation and prediction thread.

 

[KURDISTAN YPG]

so lads what happen today? anything fresh?

 

[Fake]

Mod of War I think you're wasting your time explaining the sittuation. At this point people are pretty much trolling you.

 

[Gamernyc78]

so lads what happen today? anything fresh?

No tune in March 5 for another date to show up citing April

 

[Mod of War]

Mod of War I think you're wasting your time explaining the sittuation. At this point people are pretty much trolling you.

I can do this all day. My words will not change.

 

[DJ12]

Some lovely looking powerpoints there.

No man, BGs and OsirisBlack are saying it is NOT 9.2 TFs, it is higher than that, in the 12 TFs numbers, that source that HeisenbergFX4 was talking about is a "crazy birdie" that Heisenberg doesn't really rely on him a 100% because most of his other sources are telling him that it is not 9.2 TFs after all.

Nope.

But I don't think you get what I am trying to say anyway.

I'm saying his Sony guy gave him duff information on purpose, to troll us all. And seeing as he is ready this. Well played sir

 

[CrustyBritches]

"Bookmark This" is definitely an interesting search rabbit hole to go down. Another good search criteria is "Tommy Fisher".

 

[Mod of War]

Are you going to ban him? Or is he banned now? Or are you going to let him explain his shenanigans?

I'm giving him the opportunity to come back and explain his shenanigans. But again, he was never vetted, so...

 

[Hawking Radiation]

I see what you mean. But a proper vetting process is what makes us believe these guys. And some seem to have more freedom than others in their "predictions"... vetted or not

Proper vetting process won't save people from rational thought.
Tommy's predictions have proven false time and time again. Yet somehow people still kept believing what he was saying in this forum. One would think that after the first few things he got wrong that maybe he was questionable. Also the fact he never got vetted. You have these signs that the guy me be full of shit yet these obvious signs were not enough to convince people of his credbility.

It really is quite astonishing.

 

[Fake]

I can do this all day. My words will not change.

IMO they're trying to pushing you to the wall, but anw. Your call.

 

[DeeDogg_]

Lots of gullible users here...
weren't we saying he was a bullshitter like last week? Why is everyone surprised. And Mod of War how could u not have told it was a fake? Just look at the grips and it's textures and button symmetry