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[01011001]

RDNA is 50% more efficient than GCN and RDNA2 is 50% more than RDNA, thus RDNA2 is more than 100% more than GCN..

efficient = power usage... this will not really concern console users other than with how expensive it is to use these systems

 

[Deleted member 775630]

RDNA is 50% more efficient than GCN and RDNA2 is 50% more than RDNA, thus RDNA2 is 100% more than GCN..

Lol no, that's 125%

 

[44alltheway]

None of these pictures say PS5 has RDNA 2. It's only confirmed when it the Playstation name is included somewhere

 

[TherapistGaymer]

This image is also FAKE.


PS5 doesn't have RT and it's not RDNA 2

Sorry buddy you are looking silly right now. Listening to the conference. Next gen consoles. Go get some rest.

 

[it_wasn't_me]

Sorry buddy you are looking silly right now. Listening to the conference. Next gen consoles. Go get some rest.

Dude, come on.

 

[SgtCaffran]

consoleS

 

[TherapistGaymer]

None of these pictures say PS5 has RDNA 2. It's only confirmed when it the Playstation name is included somewhere

Are you serious lmao what is wrong with you people? Just acting childish as all get out.

 

[FranXico]

Sorry buddy you are looking silly right now. Listening to the conference. Next gen consoles. Go get some rest.

Looks like you're tired too. Can't recognize sarcasm?

 

[Rheon]

None of these pictures say PS5 has RDNA 2. It's only confirmed when it the Playstation name is included somewhere

Stop being dense. We already know PS5 supports hardware ray-tracing. RDNA1 doesn't support hardware ray-tracing.

 

[LED Guy?]

PS5 is GCN.
PS5 is RDNA 1.
PS5 has no VRS.
PS5 has no Hardware RT.
PS5 is not based on RDNA 2.
PS5 is GitHub leak = 9.2 TFlops.

PS5 has:

- RDNA 2.
- VRS.
- Hardware RT.
- Is not Oberon final.

 

[Darklor01]

Stop being dense. We already know PS5 supports ray-tracing. RDNA1 doesn't support ray-tracing.

RDNA 1 does support ray tracing. RDNA2 supports hardware ray tracing which, yes, PS5 has.

 

[Gavin Stevens]

I'm gonna hazard a guess to say that this is what my friend was taking about, however I'm still hoping for something else, something more. Early days yet.

But nice to know something came from this as I said.

Also with it being on 7nm only that also confirms what I said about it being a sort of almost 1.9 rather than a full 2.0 RDNA, so there's that too.

I would call this a win for me tonight

Let's keep going and see what else tonight brings

 

[DJ12]

RDNA is 50% more efficient than GCN and RDNA2 is 50% more than RDNA, thus RDNA2 is 100% more than GCN..

Not quite.

100 + 50% = 150

150 + 50% = 225

125% more efficient

 

[demigod]

Sorry buddy you are looking silly right now. Listening to the conference. Next gen consoles. Go get some rest.

Sarcasm, Sarcasm?

 

[TherapistGaymer]

Looks like you're tired too. Can't recognize sarcasm?

No I can I'm with ya lol. Just was doing the same. However I am a little tired of the parrot squawking in here sometimes. 9.2 No RDNA 2 squuuuuawk!

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

RT codeveloped with MS. Interesting...

Yeah I noticed that as well. I'm guessing RT will be somewhat different between MS and Sony. And both being RDNA2 I guess doesn't mean too much because we just found out RDNA2 is definitely 7nm when many were thinking it was 7nm+. So it'd actually be more "interesting" if either system has some RDNA3 features customized to their APUs, but the chances of that are near 0% I'd assume xD.

FWIW it was already mentioned that Oberon didn't show RT on steppings tests because the blocks with the RT were disabled for regression tests to run Ariel iGPU mode for PS4 and PS4 Pro compatibility. So clarification of RDNA2 doesn't really change much of what we already know regarding XSX or PS5 in particular. It just means that you don't need 7nm EUV for it because AMD might be skipping right to 5nm for RDNA3 instead.

 

[Red-Town]

consoleS

This image is photoshop, all hail the Github

 

[FranXico]

No I can I'm with ya lol. Just was doing the same. However I am a little tired of the parrot squawking in here sometimes. 9.2 No RDNA 2 squuuuuawk!

5 freaking hours long. We're all tired, friends.

 

[Rheon]

RDNA 1 does support ray tracing. RDNA2 supports hardware ray tracing which, yes, PS5 has.

Oops, I stand corrected.

 

[Bligtgate]

I certain now PS5 is the same as xsx

 

[Bludbro]

Consoles... seems like both are RDNA 2.

K I'm a true believer now, cant be any doubt that PS5 uses RDNA2 now. Unless by consoles they are taking about xbox and switch pro.

 

[it_wasn't_me]

Yeah I noticed that as well. I'm guessing RT will be somewhat different between MS and Sony. And both being RDNA2 I guess doesn't mean too much because we just found out RDNA2 is definitely 7nm when many were thinking it was 7nm+. So it'd actually be more "interesting" if either system has some RDNA3 features customized to their APUs, but the chances of that are near 0% I'd assume xD.

FWIW it was already mentioned that Oberon didn't show RT on steppings tests because the blocks with the RT were disabled for regression tests to run Ariel iGPU mode for PS4 and PS4 Pro compatibility. So clarification of RDNA2 doesn't really change much of what we already know regarding XSX or PS5 in particular. It just means that you don't need 7nm EUV for it because AMD might be skipping right to 5nm for RDNA3 instead.

Sony can make their own API, right? And besides that, they can create their own RT solution

 

[bitbydeath]

Maybe Oberon is Lockhart which is why it has no RT and a connection with Arden?

 

[Bligtgate]

Oops, I stand corrected.

Where did they said that in the conference?

 

[DJ12]

I'm gonna hazard a guess to say that this is what my friend was taking about, however I'm still hoping for something else, something more. Early days yet.

But nice to know something came from this as I said.

Tell him he needs to come out from the bunker more, we knew this already

PS5 is GCN.
PS5 is RDNA 1.
PS5 has no VRS.
PS5 has no Hardware RT.
PS5 is not based on RDNA 2.
PS5 is GitHub leak = 9.2 TFlops.

PS5 has:

- RDNA 2.
- VRS.
- Hardware RT.
- Is not Oberon final.

Give them a couple of hours and they will find a way to legitimise the leak again.

Sony paid AMD to lie etc.etc.

Maybe Oberon is Lockhart which is why it has no RT and a connection with Arden?

Too powerful for lockheart, also I'm pretty sure lockheart will have RT

 

[Deleted member 775630]

I'm gonna hazard a guess to say that this is what my friend was taking about, however I'm still hoping for something else, something more. Early days yet.

So something everyone actually already guessed... Next up PS5 and XSX are within 1TF from each other

 

[FranXico]

Maybe Oberon is Lockhart which is why it has no RT and a connection with Arden?

Why would it have BC modes that match PS4Pro then?

 

[CyberPanda]

 

[Reindeer]

He obviously doesn't know lol.

 

[BazzBazz]

RDNA is 50% more efficient than GCN and RDNA2 is 50% more than RDNA, thus RDNA2 is 100% more than GCN..

You probably missed some maths at school?

 

[FranXico]

Wellthereitis.gif

If Tom Warren says so...

/s

 

[Gavin Stevens]

So something everyone actually already guessed... Next up PS5 and XSX are within 1TF from each other

People guessed about it not being the full RDNA 2.0 7nm+, and instead being on standard 7nm...? Before me? I think not sir

But regardless, things are at least being said, and on the day I said they would. So while the info may have been a no brainier, the day they were confirmed wasn't so much. So that's good in my book

So that's not being rdna 7nm+, being a 7nm with the features bolted on for new hardware, and on the exact day I said.

Come on, even if nothing else happens tonight, I'll take that win, cheers to my contact

edit: also, I mentioned about no delay ever being said to be and people told me it was all on track. Well, that slide clearly says no delay, out this year. But I'll ignore that one haha.

 

[Fun Fanboy]

Would be wild if it was for Lockhart and X1X only, and he knew something.

 

[Bludbro]

RT codeveloped with MS. Interesting...

Think he meant Dirext X Ray Tracing was developed in collaboration with Microsoft. Sony will have their own software.

 

[bitbydeath]

Why would it have BC modes that match PS4Pro then?

Intern errors.

 

[Shio]

He just said they would have Zen3 out by the end of this year...could the next gen consoles have zen3?

 

[Mr Moose]

Would be wild if it was for Lockhart and X1X only, and he knew something.

He's waiting for Benji to tweet about PS5 being RDNA2 before confirming.

He just said they would have Zen3 out by the end of this year...could the next gen consoles have zen3?

I thought they were confirmed to be Zen2?

Edit: Yup, Zen2: https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/02/24/what-you-can-expect-next-generation-gaming/

Next Generation Custom Processor:

Xbox Series X is our most powerful console ever powered by our custom designed processor leveraging AMD's latest Zen 2 and RDNA 2 architectures.

 

[mejin]

PS5 is GCN.
PS5 is RDNA 1.
PS5 has no VRS.
PS5 has no Hardware RT.
PS5 is not based on RDNA 2.
PS5 is GitHub leak = 9.2 TFlops.

PS5 has:

- RDNA 2.
- VRS.
- Hardware RT.
- Is not Oberon final.

 

[TherapistGaymer]

He obviously doesn't know lol.

Tim dogs back up dancer does not

 

[sonomamashine]

PS5 13,8TF confirmed ?

 

[DJ12]

Would be wild if it was for Lockhart and X1X only, and he knew something.

he did say consoleS. (your in luck)

he also said partnerS (oh dear)

Microsoft only would be partner

Microsoft and Sony, partnerS

 

[Gudji]

Would be wild if it was for Lockhart and X1X only, and he knew something.

It's not, let's stop with those types of ideas please. They've been talking about consoles (PS5 and XSX) since the beggining of the event, lockhart is not announced yet.

If it was for MS hardware only they would have said "MS hardware or MS Consoles".

 

[FranXico]

PS5 13,8TF confirmed ?

No. Just no.
Today, we're just debunking the RDNA1 myth.

 

[Zero707]

 

[Evilms]

 

[B_Boss]

None of these pictures say PS5 has RDNA 2. It's only confirmed when it the Playstation name is included somewhere

One could even go off of logical inference and implication....good grief. Cease heathen.

 

[SgtCaffran]

Yeah I noticed that as well. I'm guessing RT will be somewhat different between MS and Sony. And both being RDNA2 I guess doesn't mean too much because we just found out RDNA2 is definitely 7nm when many were thinking it was 7nm+. So it'd actually be more "interesting" if either system has some RDNA3 features customized to their APUs, but the chances of that are near 0% I'd assume xD.

FWIW it was already mentioned that Oberon didn't show RT on steppings tests because the blocks with the RT were disabled for regression tests to run Ariel iGPU mode for PS4 and PS4 Pro compatibility. So clarification of RDNA2 doesn't really change much of what we already know regarding XSX or PS5 in particular. It just means that you don't need 7nm EUV for it because AMD might be skipping right to 5nm for RDNA3 instead.

I would imagine that the RT hardware is near identical between XsX and PS5. It makes sense for Xbox to use DXR as they're merging Xbox more and more with PC. It also makes sense for Sony to use their own API as they have always done.

 

[it_wasn't_me]

None of these pictures say PS5 has RDNA 2. It's only confirmed when it the Playstation name is included somewhere

Don't worry. Github tests are real

 

[SgtCaffran]

 

[sonomamashine]

No. Just no.
Today, we're just debunking the RDNA1 myth.

Was that still doubted ?