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[OrionNebula]

Why people keep bring random tweets for this thread?

I know, right?
There's nothing leaked (it's official), it's on PC (therefore not linked to PS5/XSX), no speculation or analysis either

People use this thread only because it has traction

That kind of thing makes me miss the bullshit of people like Tommy Fisher. Even if it was bullshit, it fit the topic at hand at least

On that note, should I become a vegetarian?

 

[SlimySnake]

I didn't backpedal anything. Everything I said was based on the speculation of a valid source. Whether they are wrong or not doesn't matter.

Yes you did.

Alright people. One last time..

I heard that there are 2 consoles per company. The mid-gen refreshes are going to be introduced at release so that these consoles can run the entire 7yr cycle.

Anyway, I tried to piece together was is happening. It appears like the PS5 Pro is coming later. That would mean the base PS5 is 9TF and perhaps the 2 SKUs for Xbox are releasing during xmas 2020.

So 2 models. Possible 2 coming out from Microsoft but 1 coming out for Sony.

Also PS5 Pro might not see the light of day until 2022.

 

[Fake]

LOL about official Xbox twitter profile feeding console war.

 

[VFXVeteran]

Yes you did.

That's not backpedaling to me. That's called my source wasn't really sure and gave me conflicting statements. So what? You should be glad you are getting any info at all compared to what Sony has spoken (i.e. which is zilch) There ARE two SKUs.. that part is for certain. What they have or when they come out is anybody's guess - including the sources that I know.

 

[zubairali2]

where did osiris black go?

 

[Gavin Stevens]

Wait, did I not post enough this morning I wasn't allowed a harmless twitter lol moment?

Also on the subject of memory, I said what I was given, but to be fair, memory is the easier of the things to update and change, so who knows.

 

[SlimySnake]

lol You are basically sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting like a child. "Sony is gonna lose money! Soy is gonna lose MONEYY!" You keep saying, "This was discussed a long time ago!" Doesn't mean shit now. It's obvious you have some agenda you are trying to push here so allow me to stop you before you continue and put you on ignore. You can bother someone else with your incessant trolling.

lol amazing putting me on ignore because you're upset at me saying it's a bad business decision by Sony. I didnt realize i was talking to Jim Ryan himself. Why are you taking this so seriously?

Through out our discussion, i was patient and calm, and argued the point. its just video games. if you cared to read what i wrote instead of getting triggered you wouldve seen that i am simply talking about the business model, nothing more. I dont work for Sony, i dont hold Sony stock (anymore), this affects me only in a positive way.

hilarious how you accuse me of pushing an agenda when i am one of the biggest sony fans here. just learn to agree to disagree, and be open to other viewpoints, you might learn a thing or two.

 

[Fake]

Sigh. Those tweets don't bring nothing to the thread.

 

[SlimySnake]

That's not backpedaling to me. That's called my source wasn't really sure and gave me conflicting statements. So what? You should be glad you are getting any info at all compared to what Sony has spoken (i.e. which is zilch) There ARE two SKUs.. that part is for certain. What they have or when they come out is anybody's guess - including the sources that I know.

thats backpeddling.

either your source backpeddled or you did. doesnt matter. you are responsible for what you post here.

good job throwing your source under the bus i guess. if he was reading this, i would hope that he doesnt share his info with you again.

 

[devilNprada]

I didn't backpedal anything. Everything I said was based on the speculation of a valid source. Whether they are wrong or not doesn't matter.

To be fair you did though... you originally said Same time release for two consoles (which I did in fact read an internet news article that quoted an article that quoted you) Then you said the pro version would come much later (the article did not mention that part).

That pissed me off because that is not ideal for me. I want the Pro model up front then maybe a light later on for the masses. I don't want to be forced to buy two models. So what can you confirm now about the two models?

 

[SportsFan581]

where did osiris black go?

I know, we need more game riddles along with the pigeon hardware riddles. I suck at deciphering any of it, but it still helps when others do.

He shouldn't be taking personal time, we need this info.

JK, it's possible he has just run out of news at the moment. I'm sure he'll be back with something SOON.

 

[devilNprada]

Yes you did.

Damn your fast snakes

 

[Self High Five]

I have no idea what you are saying here. I have read this several times. where did i say PS5 exclusives pushed me to get a PC? i have built a PC every gen for the past three gens to play console games at 60 fps. the only difference back then was that i HAD to own a Playstation to play their exclusives. now thats no longer the case so i no longer feel obligated to stay in their eco system. however, this time around, Sony relies on us spending money in their ecosystem more than ever. PS+ subs, DLCs, Microstransactions, Digital Store sales where they get 30% of the cut instead of the usual 10% and finally the midgen upgrades.

I dont know how many consumers like me will move to PC. i do know that the PS CEO was afraid i would do it just a few years ago and a built a brand new console just to keep me from going back to PC. it actually worked for a couple of years until i got sick of playing 30 fps games on the pro. So if the CEO was afraid, he must have seen numbers where a substantial number of people move every gen to PC. Enough to invest in R&D for a console.

at the end of the day, it might come down to 10% but those 10% of users are enthusiasts and day one adapters who spend a lot more than your 'traditional console gamer'. we have numbers from sony themselves, $1,700 vs $700. this is money sony is leaving on the table.

Sorry, you're not making any sense and your complaints are quite frankly bizarre. You are already buying third party games on PC to play them in 60fps so Sony was never getting their 30% cut in third party sales, DLCs or Microtransactions. Why would anyone take the time to build a gaming PC and still pay $60 a year for PS+? Practically no one that has a gaming PC and a console would choose paid multiplayer over free multiplayer. Console only gamers don't have a choice.

So the only thing Sony will be missing from you buying their exclusive software on PS5....because you plan on doing so on a PC.....umm so why should they care?

 

[Gamernyc78]

Sad but true!
Btw: My ex-girl is from Poland.

Dobranoc i śpij dobrze.

Awww we are all family my son is half polish

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

Just as last gen, final dev kits won't be out til summer. Zhuge even said so.

As for 512Gb/s bandwidth being enough for 11-12tf...yeah, ok

For the mass-produced dev kits sure they'll go out later this year, but I would assume the core specs of the APU/RAM/SSD in the dev kit devs have now are final as they have to finish their games and submit them for testing (TRC etc) around August I guess?

 

[Hawking Radiation]

Meh, I just look at phrases and stuff like that and laugh. Don't need a corporation to tell me what's important xD. I'll play when and where I decide, on my time.

But I get how it's an effective marketing tactic these days, although it kind of speaks to how much people've fallen into the trap of hyper-consumerism. Anyway, that's philosophical shit so let's leave it alone.



PC piracy hasn't really been a thing since Steam and GOG took off tho, and both of those were years ago. Only time we hear about piracy is when a game goes full-draconian DRM bullshit, and usually out of protest.

Otherwise, it's usually with digital shows that are stupidly locked away from official streaming in other parts of the world. The Mandalorian was massively pirated because of this.

Wow your avatar.

Thick and ripped :O

 

[VFXVeteran]

To be fair you did though... you originally said Same time release for two consoles (which I did in fact read an internet news article that quoted an article that quoted you) Then you said the pro version would come much later (the article did not mention that part).

That pissed me off because that is not ideal for me. I want the Pro model up front then maybe a light later on for the masses. I don't want to be forced to buy two models. So what can you confirm now about the two models?

I will never mention a single unofficial released rumor on these boards again. And that includes games coming out. I'm not here for leaking shit. I did that and look where it got me. You can just treat me like any other normal gamer on these boards from here on.

 

[zubairali2]

I know, we need more game riddles along with the pigeon hardware riddles. I suck at deciphering any of it, but it still helps when others do.

He shouldn't be taking personal time, we need this info.

JK, it's possible he has just run out of news at the moment. I'm sure he'll be back with something SOON.

 

[M-V2]

Remember guys, don't be a loyal to any brand, don't defend them, don't get insulted because of them & don't waste your time trying to damage control for them, whether it's Sony or MS or any other brand.

These giants companies don't give a fuck about your feelings, now or later they will bite you in the ass, so please stop fighting over them.

For example, today Sony bite alot of fanboy's asses & mark my words they will bite you more and more going forward lol

 

[VanSiriusGabriel]

I'll have to check your post then; I have a bad habit of saying things someone else already said, sometimes even just a few posts above :S

Also 'damn' was just part of the response I had when I found the model of the pic. I'd die to see them cosplay as Cammy or Falke

No don't worry, I said my argument was similar just because it was a coincidence but it's not like we are not repeating the same things since hundreds of pages ago, so... xD

 

[gundamkyoukai]

Wait, did I not post enough this morning I wasn't allowed a harmless twitter lol moment?

Also on the subject of memory, I said what I was given, but to be fair, memory is the easier of the things to update and change, so who knows.

The bandwidth seem low for 11 to 12 TF system since it also share with the cpu.
The can try to get the bandwidth higher and more memory but i think to late to change bus or that wrong ?

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Remember guys, don't be a loyal to any brand, don't defend them, don't get insulted because of them & don't waste your time trying to damage control for them, whether it's Sony or MS or any other brand.

These giants companies don't give a fuck about your feelings, now or later they will bite you in the ass, so please stop fighting over them.

For example, today Sony bite alot of fanboy's asses & mark my words they will bite you more and more going forward lol

I wonder if they put that much energy into cars. If they buy a Toyota, it's a Toyota (or Lexus) for life?

I don't know about you guys, but I've had 5 cars (really 4 since one was a hand me down). Out of those 4 cars, it's been 4 different car companies. Two Jap, one USA, one Italian.

And I'm thinking the next car I get is Korean (Stinger).

 

[Hawking Radiation]

Where did that 11.6TF come from?

 

[JMB88]

I think your missing the point....

regardless of why it's more powerful, the point still stands no?

No, I'm not missing the point. Analyzing any situation without the right context makes no sense.

Again, of course X1X is more powerful if it was launched a year later. But losing the "power crown" can be analyzed if both products are launched the same year, have comparable prices and point to the same segment of customers in the market.

By this I don't mean that Sony undoubtedly always has to have a more powerful console than the competition, because it would be a false statement and because it's likely that XSX has a slight difference of TF in its favor.

 

[johnjohn]

That makes no sense. Of course, the X1X is more powerful than the PS4 Pro.

You have to be short-sighted not to see the context, if you launch a console 1 year later and it costs 100 usd more, the manufacturer has to be an idiot to make a product lower than the one already It is in the market.

The same with the narrative of the XB OG, if you launch a console 2 years later than the PS2, the same logic applies.

He's responding to someone who asked when MS took the power crown. The answer is when they released the 1X.

 

[Gavin Stevens]

The bandwidth seem low for 11 to 12 TF system since it also share with the cpu.
The can try to get the bandwidth higher and more memory but i think to late to change bus or that wrong ?

Is it low in a traditional sense, or is it low because the number is low? Granted if you're looking at it compared to a high quality pc build, but think of everything else that works in conjunction with that, that you wouldn't get on a pc.

As for memory, as BGs said, memory changes have happened before without developers knowing. So who knows. I only report what I'm told.

 

[devilNprada]

I will never mention a single unofficial released rumor on these boards again. And that includes games coming out. I'm not here for leaking shit. I did that and look where it got me. You can just treat me like any other normal gamer on these boards from here on.

Fair enough... But you should at least clarify any misinformation please..

 

[JMB88]

Sorry but I just saw this reply on the official Horizon twitter post about it coming to PC and loved it:



But this one was pure cringe:

Fanboys are pathetic. But to be fair, when Xbox launched its first exclusives also on PC there was the same reaction.

It's weird that companies want to earn more and more money, right?

 

[Mr Moose]

Sorry but I just saw this reply on the official Horizon twitter post about it coming to PC and loved it:



But this one was pure cringe:

#NotMySIE

 

[Thedtrain]

Definitely meant to write $499

I could see XSX going for $399-$449 knowing they'll make a profit quickly with their established subscriptions.

Can't the same be said for Sony?

 

[Neo Blaster]

Sorry but I just saw this reply on the official Horizon twitter post about it coming to PC and loved it:

Well, now they can counterweight all those people trolling with Xbox games on PC being played using a Dualshock.

 

[siekro1983]

I will never mention a single unofficial released rumor on these boards again. And that includes games coming out. I'm not here for leaking shit. I did that and look where it got me. You can just treat me like any other normal gamer on these boards from here on.

do you have any verified leaks that actually came to be true? the ps5 info sounds incredibly bogus.

 

[Smoke6]

Yes you did.

He didn't back pedal, he cane back to clarify what he was trying to yell is in a much more understanding way!
Chill!

 

[Deleted member 779727]

I can't seem to understand why these insiders (verified or not) get so upset over being called liars. What did you expect to happen after providing nothing but cryptic messages, riddles, and vague information? These "I won't post anymore" outrage posts prove that you're not really in any position to know anything concrete to begin with, or your source isn't in a position to know anything either. They may have even heard something they shouldn't have and past it down to you.

If you truly have concrete information that can't be misinterpreted and isn't vague then post it, otherwise don't post any insider Information and join in on the humour and speculation.

 

[Moses85]

Fanboys are pathetic. But to be fair, when Xbox launched its first exclusives also on PC there was the same reaction.

It's weird that companies want to earn more and more money, right?

Already have had fun with HZD years ago.

Nice try to troll.

 

[01011001]

Well, now they can counterweight all those people trolling with Xbox games on PC being played using a Dualshock.

but why would you do that? I mean you can... but...
you'd lose the impulse trigger feature in Forza and stuff

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Now if all the insider pretenders out there can move over and allow VFX to grace us with the truth, anymore hilarious leaks coming soon that will make people am cry?

 

[zubairali2]

could it be possible gta 6 a next gen title?

 

[Apollo Helios]

could it be possible gta 6 a next gen title?

Yeah this is it! It feels right!

 

[Gavin Stevens]

could it be possible gta 6 a next gen title?

People in this thread shitting on VFXVeteran you BETTER be writing a 16 page essay on how much assery this gta "leak" is

 

[Physiognomonics]

The bandwidth seem low for 11 to 12 TF system since it also share with the cpu.
The can try to get the bandwidth higher and more memory but i think to late to change bus or that wrong ?

That memory bandwidth fits with Oberon A0 bandwidth (512GB/s). But we know it got improved with B0 (maybe 550GB/s) and there is also the last model E0. I wouldn't worry about it.

 

[zubairali2]

People in this thread shitting on VFXVeteran you BETTER be writing a 16 page essay on how much assery this gta "leak" is

according to sub they say this guy is legit so i hope rockstar is cooking up something spicy. if not then oh well i guess lol

 

[CthulhuPL]

Awww we are all family my son is half polish

*reads your post*hears winged hussars incoming* ... wait a minute wtf? How can your son be half polish and you... not? *throws Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth map in the air*

 

[TLZ]

The mention of "Based off of speculation/reddit and other sources online." was already there at the time of the 9.2TF rumor.

Of course it was. But none of the usual suspects cried about it because it's not 12+. As long as it's lower, they're cool

 

[Gamernyc78]

*reads your post*hears winged hussars incoming* ... wait a minute wtf? How can your son be half polish and you... not? *throws Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth map in the air*

Lol I'm Puertorican and met his mother whose polish, I inserted, didn't pull out and ooooppppssss

 

[saintjules]

Discussed?

 

[JMB88]

Already have had fun with HZD years ago.

Nice try to troll.

Where am i being troll?


PS: I enjoyed it at its launch, and I honestly care very little that some exclusives are published on PC.

 

[CthulhuPL]

Lol I'm Puertorican and met his mother whose polish, I inserted, didn't pull out and ooooppppssss

Ohh I see... it was an insider leak.

 

[M-V2]

I will say it as a PS fan, MS is more straight forward about their strategies with their fans, which is great, on the other side Sony is unclear, they're doing things randomly (at least for me)

 

[Smoke6]

I will say it as a PS fan, MS is more straight forward about their strategies with their fans, which is great, on the other side Sony is unclear, they're doing things randomly (at least for me)

really? Like how so?

wait let me guess... because they haven't released the info like you would want them too?

you really think after all these years they do t know what they're doing? Ok?!