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Okay everyone this confirms it! He's teased us about it before but the truth was there all along...

Dan_of_Rivia is actually Paul_of_RedGamingTech !!! Like why the sudden name change from 'orion' , he's trying to cover his tracks cos 'orion' is obviously anagram for RedGamingTech, coincidence? I think not! And that contrived posh voice he puts on, can clearly hear the deep brummie coming out he's trying hard to conceal... I swear its Ozzy Osbourne if I close ma eyes

Common Dan or shall I say PAUL, just admit its you all along 😎 ... I'm not that stupid
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He still says Gen 9 heavy. We have known that this was going to have cross gen games like Halo and everwild.

Gen 9 heavy is GOOD news.

This is bizarre based on previous claims the guy made..This is spooky.This the same dude that said "Next gen gameplay" last time right??
I didn't see Sony execs posting shit like this before a show. Im don't get it. I hope your right sir. And X gives it to ya and all that marketing shit.

Im working from home. I should watch anything to pass time. But Im gonna pass on this one and listen in to a podcast. Watch recaps & reactions & post later.
 
Honestly, it leaves me wondering if MS are reserving showing games for additional events focused on next gen or whether therms are showing what they have. Maybe. Lot of timed exclusives? Who knows.
 
He still says Gen 9 heavy. We have known that this was going to have cross gen games like Halo and everwild.

Gen 9 heavy is GOOD news.

Yeah, I don't get people being down on this. I expect to see what's coming like Sony showed last month. Like you said before the more actual gameplay shown the better. I get it's early except for cross gen games but even that IS next-gen. People just tend to have too high expectations for these things. Also it's a new generation....not 4 generations from now! I think if people relax and just expect to see some fun stuff, some impressive stuff and a few surprises, they'll be happy with it. I don't get how people on both sides have such wild and unrealistic expectations that they can't HELP but be disappointed. Plus, we all know it takes a while to start REALLY seeing what the boxes can do. Launch titles aren't usually it.

So as long as MS shows plenty of next gen material, it will be a win. If they can pull off some wow moments like Sony did (and I fully expect they can and will) it will be even more a win. Period.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if they showed off some of their BC advancements as well.

Honestly other than cross-gen, what would they show that's this-gen other than BC? Not like they have games coming out soon.
 
We can hope for it to be less bad but that's about it. Still going to be a shit show.
Yeah.. It looks like ppl expect next-gen overnight here:) It looks like they don't realize that most of the games had already started development before the new consoles were even revealed.
You could always optimize for it, but it's another thing to cater for their strengths... (design wise)
 
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I wouldn't be surprised if they showed off some of their BC advancements as well.

Honestly other than cross-gen, what would they show that's this-gen other than BC? Not like they have games coming out soon.

Well, showing more of the system, how it works and the advantages of their BC would be cool as well. I just want to see more about both these boxes and their games...just something to distract from all this....sickness and.....shit that's going on right now. I really don't care WHO shows what at this point either...I just want that distraction!
 
I wouldn't be surprised if they showed off some of their BC advancements as well.

Honestly other than cross-gen, what would they show that's this-gen other than BC? Not like they have games coming out soon.

Grounded in 6 days.... but that's probably neither a game or soon. 🙄
 
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I won't but as humas we can always "hope"

Well, I don't know about being 'huma' myself, but we can all aspire to be!

Return this man to Huma's breast
Beyond the wild, impartial skies;
Grant to him a warrior's rest
And set the last spark of his eyes
Free from the smothering clouds of wars,
Upon the torches of stars.
Let the last surge of his breath
Take refuge in the cradling air
Above the dreams of ravens, where
Only the hawk remembers death.
Then let his shade to Huma rise,
Beyond the wild, impartial skies.

Edit- sorry guys....old school DragonLance novel reference. Just seemed right at the time!
 
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And some people will look for any reason to be disappointed.

Don't expect a clean thread tomorrow.

Sony showed the faucet, sink, AAA gameplay, few surprises, presentation was ace yet you had the haters blatantly talking nonsense. It'll be as clean as the Sony thread was well maybe worse since Microsoft truthfully has been lacking for many presentations.

Either way I've learned not to get hung up on the trolling. Ignore button is a godsend too. Maybe my skin is thick as it was the same exact way during nes, Sega, pc engine days lol.
 
this is my......status on xbox nowadays.....if they show me good result on this month live show......well okay for them

well trailers are okay but still meh
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Phil Spencer on the quality of Xbox July event
"If it's cringey and just poor production value like Inside Xbox was it's going to be very disappointing despite the content they'll show. You have to have a good presentation especially since it's for next gen. We shall see how it turns out"
 
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With Microsoft banking on Gamepass I don't see them providing big AAA single-player games. Their focus will be Multiplayer. I don't see how a single-player game that is in developement for mutliple years can be profitable when I can play it on day one on Gamepass and then be done with it. I mean I can pay for one month of Gamepass and then play games on day one that cost them over a 100 million to develope????

I think smaller titles like Ori will be the story-driven ,single-player games and the bigger games will most likely have a big emphasize on multiplayer
 



Phil Spencer on the quality of Xbox July event
"If it's cringey and just poor production value like Inside Xbox was it's going to be very disappointing despite the content they'll show. You have to have a good presentation especially since it's for next gen. We shall see how it turns out"

Just pointing out that the quote posted is not included in that article. Sounds more like some random twitter troll than an executive at MS, tbh.
 
Can ppl please let others voice their genuine distaste or likes? We are not doing this damage control nonsense early. If it's underwhelming it's underwhelming, if it's good it's good. Ppl too sensitive nowadays and can't take critism.
Well I'm here to see, but I'm already seeing XBOX guys like Klobrille and even the mighty Greenberg suggesting that we should temper our expectations, these guys are usually hype overload guys, so I don't know....Maybe they are trying a different approach this time, lowered expectations to glee, but then just a few days aback someone hyped up the event by saying there are at least two "mic drop" moments, so I'm looking forward to what those are....


Yet closer to the event, this is what we get from the XBOX hype train...


I guess some people thought they would announce the price etc....However, if this is all about games, then we can finally see what 12TF RDNA 2 with VRS brings in all it's glory...

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Then this is what Klobrille is saying.....I'm thinking if Fable is not shown, that would be quite strange. Fable has been rumored in development for years now.....I even think we should expect an Initiative teaser or trailer..., If anything this show should be about what next gen truly brings on Series X...
 



Phil Spencer on the quality of Xbox July event
"If it's cringey and just poor production value like Inside Xbox was it's going to be very disappointing despite the content they'll show. You have to have a good presentation especially since it's for next gen. We shall see how it turns out"

Shit, he even admits it.
 
With Microsoft banking on Gamepass I don't see them providing big AAA single-player games. Their focus will be Multiplayer. I don't see how a single-player game that is in developement for mutliple years can be profitable when I can play it on day one on Gamepass and then be done with it. I mean I can pay for one month of Gamepass and then play games on day one that cost them over a 100 million to develope????

I think smaller titles like Ori will be the story-driven ,single-player games and the bigger games will most likely have a big emphasize on multiplayer
It's the analogy of having a hit drama series on Netflix, they have different purposes for the value proposition of the overall subscription.
 
Well I'm here to see, but I'm already seeing XBOX guys like Klobrille and even the mighty Greenberg suggesting that we should temper our expectations, these guys are usually hype overload guys, so I don't know....Maybe they are trying a different approach this time, lowered expectations to glee, but then just a few days aback someone hyped up the event by saying there are at least two "mic drop" moments, so I'm looking forward to what those are....


Yet closer to the event, this is what we get from the XBOX hype train...


I guess some people thought they would announce the price etc....However, if this is all about games, then we can finally see what 12TF RDNA 2 with VRS brings in all it's glory...

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Then this is what Klobrille is saying.....I'm thinking if Fable is not shown, that would be quite strange. Fable has been rumored in development for years now.....I even think we should expect an Initiative teaser or trailer..., If anything this show should be about what next gen truly brings on Series X...

Probably in engine trailer

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Well I'm here to see, but I'm already seeing XBOX guys like Klobrille and even the mighty Greenberg suggesting that we should temper our expectations, these guys are usually hype overload guys, so I don't know....Maybe they are trying a different approach this time, lowered expectations to glee, but then just a few days aback someone hyped up the event by saying there are at least two "mic drop" moments, so I'm looking forward to what those are....


Yet closer to the event, this is what we get from the XBOX hype train...


I guess some people thought they would announce the price etc....However, if this is all about games, then we can finally see what 12TF RDNA 2 with VRS brings in all it's glory...

Gax2lXU.png



Then this is what Klobrille is saying.....I'm thinking if Fable is not shown, that would be quite strange. Fable has been rumored in development for years now.....I even think we should expect an Initiative teaser or trailer..., If anything this show should be about what next gen truly brings on Series X...


I wasn't expecting a fable gameplay demo so not hugely shocked or upset by that potential outcome. I was expecting something like H:FW so that makes sense. I think the Initiative is holding back their in-engine trailer for August which I am not sure about the decision of that honestly.
 
Probably in engine trailer

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I wasn't expecting a fable gameplay demo so not hugely shocked or upset by that potential outcome. I was expecting something like H:FW so that makes sense. I think the Initiative is holding back their in-engine trailer for August which I am not sure about the decision of that honestly.
Tbh. if three games should be guaranteed at this show it should be. Halo, Fable and Forza 8......I can't imagine why all three of these games would not be ready to be shown. They have been in development for a very long time..
 
For 7 Million budget this is pretty good

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MS Store back at it again lol
 
For 7 Million budget this is pretty good

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Interested to see the gameplay of this, do you switch between the world's? Do you see both worlds at the same time for certain puzzles/parts? Prefer the former personally.

Tbh. if three games should be guaranteed at this show it should be. Halo, Fable and Forza 8......I can't imagine why all three of these games would not be ready to be shown. They have been in development for a very long time..

Depends on what you mean shown. Like a live playable chunk probably not especially how much focus/time will be on halo ( I don't particularly care for halo but) that's the tent pole game for this hour event and I assume it will take at least 10 minutes of the hour which doesn't give very long for anything else especially if there are going to be some sizzle reels.
 
Interested to see the gameplay of this, do you switch between the world's? Do you see both worlds at the same time for certain puzzles/parts? Prefer the former personally.



Depends on what you mean shown. Like a live playable chunk probably not especially how much focus/time will be on halo ( I don't particularly care for halo but) that's the tent pole game for this hour event and I assume it will take at least 10 minutes of the hour which doesn't give very long for anything else especially if there are going to be some sizzle reels.
Ahh, well I can't say this is what I expected....Tbh, after the backlash at MS's first show, the messaging was "Relax, the first party next gen storm is coming"....I'm not seeing how showing a crossgen Halo game for the bulk of the show is going to right those wrongs, but I guess we shall see, Event is close enough as it is....
 
Ahh, well I can't say this is what I expected....Tbh, after the backlash at MS's first show, the messaging was "Relax, the first party next gen storm is coming"....I'm not seeing how showing a crossgen Halo game for the bulk of the show is going to right those wrongs, but I guess we shall see, Event is close enough as it is....
Dont worry, i'm sure you will end up very happy. And by that i mean the show being dissapointing.
 
Ahh, well I can't say this is what I expected....Tbh, after the backlash at MS's first show, the messaging was "Relax, the first party next gen storm is coming"....I'm not seeing how showing a crossgen Halo game for the bulk of the show is going to right those wrongs, but I guess we shall see, Event is close enough as it is....

Awwww come on, man! Give it a chance! Look, I'm getting a PS5...have made no secret of it. But I STILL want to see what MS has to show and I still want to see the new Halo. Just because it's "cross gen" doesn't mean that the XSX version of it can't be special... I mean, I'm 99.99% sure it WILL be. Just wait. It will be cool. I liked what Sony showed and I'm looking for more of the same from MS. It will be awesome to see. Just don't expect the whole WORLD of it. NOBODY can deliver on our wildest expectations! :)
 
I really really want MS to blow me away tomorrow. And not just because they are due or because Sony underwhelmed with a focus on trailers. I really hope to see whats possible next gen. I want to see photorealism sure, but I also want to see interactivity we havent seen before. I want to see Far Cry 2 fire physics x100. I want to see fully living breathing cities like cyberpunk but on steroids. I want truly emergent gameplay where a small skirmish could take you from one end of the map to the other like GTA3 did back on PS2. Only on a larger scale.

Above all, I want to see what I dont expect to see. Destruction, massive NPC counts, photorealistic graphics like hellblade 2 are all good, but my imagination simply cant match the imagination of talented artists and directors who have been doing this their entire lives. I hope this new piece of tech allows them to push boundries and blow minds like they could never do before.

As much as I agree, I think we have to temper expectations. Not because I think MS can't deliver, but sometimes I feel that fans on both sides expect the second coming of Christ.

And sometimes its just the crazy guy with a sandwich board warning us of Armageddon. Which can still be fun, but only if we allow it to be.

We're gonna see good shit tomorrow. I hope the hot takes and hyperbole stay at home.
 
Awwww come on, man! Give it a chance! Look, I'm getting a PS5...have made no secret of it. But I STILL want to see what MS has to show and I still want to see the new Halo. Just because it's "cross gen" doesn't mean that the XSX version of it can't be special... I mean, I'm 99.99% sure it WILL be. Just wait. It will be cool. I liked what Sony showed and I'm looking for more of the same from MS. It will be awesome to see. Just don't expect the whole WORLD of it. NOBODY can deliver on our wildest expectations! :)

Me too. PS guy but of course I want to see what they have to offer. Honestly if they show some first party stuff that I feel the need to play I will do that on gamepass. Doing a new build soon.
 
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With Microsoft banking on Gamepass I don't see them providing big AAA single-player games. Their focus will be Multiplayer. I don't see how a single-player game that is in developement for mutliple years can be profitable when I can play it on day one on Gamepass and then be done with it. I mean I can pay for one month of Gamepass and then play games on day one that cost them over a 100 million to develope????

I think smaller titles like Ori will be the story-driven ,single-player games and the bigger games will most likely have a big emphasize on multiplayer

I disagree.

Ninja Theory is making Hellblade 2. Playground is working on Fable. Obsidian's last project was Outer Worlds, and are working on another RPG. Doubt those games have a big emphasis on multiplayer. Maybe Obsidian's game if it goes shared world, but theres nothing right now to suggest that.

I think people are interpreting a little too much about Gamepass. There are a lot of single player games on Gamepass. They're worth having on a service like that because single player story driven games are popular and sell well. They sell subscriptions just fine and provide good experiences and variety.
 
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Me too. PS guy but of course I want to see what they have to offer. Honestly if they show some first party stuff that I feel the need to play I will do that on gamepass. Doing a new build soon.

Exactly. Like you said, I'm a PS guy mostly, but I've said before...seeing stuff from MS is cool too because it's still cool games. And also, look, this generation is the closest in a long time, if not ever, in power between the two boxes, at least as far as we know. So MS fans should take the cool stuff Sony shows and know that represents a lot of of the same things they'll see on the XSX and vice versa for the people who will be getting a PS5.

And...if one or the other shows something jaw dropping that WILL be unique to their system...cool! That's just good for gaming in general as well as, obviously for the fans of that console. So it's all good. You can be a FAN and not have to be a RABID FANBOY. ;) I don't hate Microsoft OR think that Sony just does everything the best, etc. I just like games and game systems and I can tell you that if Sony shit the bed with some generation and things were just truly bad and clearly better, I'd be getting an Xbox instead.

So again, I'm looking forward to the show tomorrow and I'm sure we will be seeing some really cool stuff. Plus...Halo. I mean I'm not huge on FPS games either...play them once in a while, but I've always enjoyed Halo. The ones I've played were very fun. Plus, I knew and met some of the original Bungie guys when they were working on Halo as a Mac exclusive...so I have a soft spot for that game for sentimental reasons as well. ;)
 
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Well, I don't know about being 'huma' myself, but we can all aspire to be!

Return this man to Huma's breast
Beyond the wild, impartial skies;
Grant to him a warrior's rest
And set the last spark of his eyes
Free from the smothering clouds of wars,
Upon the torches of stars.
Let the last surge of his breath
Take refuge in the cradling air
Above the dreams of ravens, where
Only the hawk remembers death.
Then let his shade to Huma rise,
Beyond the wild, impartial skies.

Edit- sorry guys....old school DragonLance novel reference. Just seemed right at the time!
I've left my viking pillaging behind me, maybe you can forgive a simple spelling error & leave your D&D stuff at the door as well?;-)
 
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And some people will look for any reason to be disappointed.

Don't expect a clean thread tomorrow.
Yep.

One show does not define an entire generation but yeah i fully console warriors to be out in full force.

Very few these days just enjoy the show of new games. The after show threads here are going to be graveyards. The mods better prepare themselves.
 
I've left my viking pillaging behind me, maybe you can forgive a simple spelling error & leave your D&D stuff at the door as well?;-)

Awwww......man! Ok... I'm sorry. I'll try to be LESS of a nerd.....as I continue posting online......on a gaming forum.... :)

FYI, I wasn't REALLY harshing on your spelling...just thought it was humorous since it triggered that little D&D loop in my brain.

Yep! I think I win the title of 'King Nerd' for the night....do you agree?

 
Awwww come on, man! Give it a chance! Look, I'm getting a PS5...have made no secret of it. But I STILL want to see what MS has to show and I still want to see the new Halo. Just because it's "cross gen" doesn't mean that the XSX version of it can't be special... I mean, I'm 99.99% sure it WILL be. Just wait. It will be cool. I liked what Sony showed and I'm looking for more of the same from MS. It will be awesome to see. Just don't expect the whole WORLD of it. NOBODY can deliver on our wildest expectations! :)
Don't worry I'm booked to see what they show....
 
My expectations for tomorrow:

- Big multiplayer mode for Halo, 150-200 players some kind of battleroyale included.
- Raytracing with Forza.
- New Fable cinematic trailer.
- Hellblade trailer with graphics very close to what we saw in the Epic PS5 demo.
 
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