Neo Blaster
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Isn't a 4k Blu-ray drive already entitled to support BDXL?
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ethomaz
Banned
Well Activision is using two different discs (and cover) for CoD.Oh shit, you're right. BDXL discs won't work on XBO and we already know they both use the same disc.
Even third parties.
THE:MILKMAN
Member
Well I'm taking on the challenge. I have to pick-up a XSX for my brother bless him so it will be interesting if I'll be able to nab a PS5,assuming it isn't priced silly, at the same time.
Neo Blaster
Member
Summary:
For PS owners, you either pay $10 to upgrade standard PS4 version to PS5, or $69.99 for crossgen version.
For Xbox owners, there's only the $69.99 option because MS prohibited paid upgrades.
FunkMiller
Banned
Meanwhile, all of us outside US just sitting here like
IbelieveInGenerations
Banned
Not to count the more unique Cerny's vision wich I'm sure will influence the industry on future's hardware.
The other day I told to other Guy that PS5 feels more complete in hardware and actually has the upperhand, and then he Said Im Crazy because of muh 12tf
Great Hair
Banned
PS5 will be available for pre-order in limited quantities, so we will be inviting our existing users first. from Sony statement
nintendosmash.com
no source given, sounds like FUD to me.
edit: not sure why the poster thought, r/halo would be interested.
In the US, Sony will sell PS5 on a digital queue basis due to the limited number of consoles
On August 27, US players began receiving invitations to a dedicated page with the ability to queue up for PS5 pre-orders. PS5 will be available for pre-order in limited quantities, so we will be inviting our existing users first. from Sony statement null Players are selected based on their...
nintendosmash.com
no source given, sounds like FUD to me.
edit: not sure why the poster thought, r/halo would be interested.
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kyliethicc
Member
Hard pass.Nah... This is where he belong to
Killer Sakoman
Member
Better to be out of US. When I was there in 2010 to 2014, I couldn't buy a PS4 while it was available in my countryMeanwhile, all of us outside US just sitting here like
. PS4 was sold out eberywhere in the US for almost a year after launch.
saintjules
Member
In the US, Sony will sell PS5 on a digital queue basis due to the limited number of consoles
In the US, Sony will sell PS5 on a digital queue basis due to the limited number of consoles
On August 27, US players began receiving invitations to a dedicated page with the ability to queue up for PS5 pre-orders. PS5 will be available for pre-order in limited quantities, so we will be inviting our existing users first. from Sony statement null Players are selected based on their...
Will probably end up going to gamestop or Best Buy to secure.
Killer Sakoman
Member
It's an offical email my friendPS5 will be available for pre-order in limited quantities, so we will be inviting our existing users first. from Sony statement
In the US, Sony will sell PS5 on a digital queue basis due to the limited number of consoles
On August 27, US players began receiving invitations to a dedicated page with the ability to queue up for PS5 pre-orders. PS5 will be available for pre-order in limited quantities, so we will be inviting our existing users first. from Sony statement null Players are selected based on their...
no source given, sounds like FUD to me.
Grinchy
Banned
The pre-order lottery thing from Sony directly is strange. Two guesses pulled from my ass are that it's either a limited quantities ready for launch issue (which seems believable), or, maybe they want to sell a bunch of them on their own without having to give up a retail cut to overcome the losses of selling it for a price that is under production cost (way less likely).
kyliethicc
Member
What a contrast.
jose4gg
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Imtjnotu
Member
FUD from an official sony emailPS5 will be available for pre-order in limited quantities, so we will be inviting our existing users first. from Sony statement
In the US, Sony will sell PS5 on a digital queue basis due to the limited number of consoles
On August 27, US players began receiving invitations to a dedicated page with the ability to queue up for PS5 pre-orders. PS5 will be available for pre-order in limited quantities, so we will be inviting our existing users first. from Sony statement null Players are selected based on their...
no source given, sounds like FUD to me.
edit: not sure why the poster thought, r/halo would be interested.
ethomaz
Banned
kyliethicc
Member
If Sony was smart, they'd announce PS5 is $500, PS5 Digital is $450. Then open pre-orders up on their own website, and when users go to pre-order the PS5 Digital directly from Sony, it will be "on sale" for $400.
Undercut the retailers on price for the version of the PS5 that cuts out physical games. Make it cheapest to buy direct from Sony.
The retailers will already be less interested in selling the Digital PS5 and so Sony should undercut them to see if they'll drop to match or risk losing hardware sales to Sony's own site.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
PS5 will be available for pre-order in limited quantities, so we will be inviting our existing users first. from Sony statement
In the US, Sony will sell PS5 on a digital queue basis due to the limited number of consoles
On August 27, US players began receiving invitations to a dedicated page with the ability to queue up for PS5 pre-orders. PS5 will be available for pre-order in limited quantities, so we will be inviting our existing users first. from Sony statement null Players are selected based on their...
no source given, sounds like FUD to me.
edit: not sure why the poster thought, r/halo would be interested.
Incoming rumors-
This is what people have been saying for a little bit now.
The PS5 (and possibly XSX) will be is such short supply at launch you will only be able to get them through their own store and a very limited select number of outlets.
Plus have heard if preorders are through the roof it may very well come down to a lottery type of system who gets theirs at launch.
Again all rumors people have been whispering and sorry if this has been discussed many times over the last few days as I have seen a few other people hint at this.
Apollo Helios
Member
No it is to ensure that only real console gaming enthusiast get to buy the console and not the scalpers at the first wave, so to prevent black market sales of unopened packaged PS5s all on eBay.
mejin
Member
you have 12 TeraFarts, come on.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
This whole physical media debacle in BDXL vs BD just reminded me of this article:
Phil Spencer: Xbox Series X Being 'Held Back' Is A Meme Created By Console War Obsessives
Xbox boss responds to speculationwww.purexbox.com
Then I can only LOL at this
We can safely say Phil Spencer is "Lying", I guess. Nothing new, but to brainwashed people to wake up and question his PR.
splattered
Member
At Gamescom tomorrow PS5 announces $599 consoles super limited quantities, sign up for digital lottery system NOW!
Later in the show Microsoft announces XSX $499 no stock shortages, available at all major retailers RIGHT NOW!
Man both companies really did shit the bed with their next gen launches in one way or another.
Later in the show Microsoft announces XSX $499 no stock shortages, available at all major retailers RIGHT NOW!
Man both companies really did shit the bed with their next gen launches in one way or another.
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kyliethicc
Member
And anyone who knows how a supply curve works will know lower supply = lower price.
This could indicate PS5 will be sold at a desirable price, so probably not $600.
The cabbage patch stampede will pale in comparison.
Yes, I'm dating myself millennials.
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vivftp
Member
Hmm, how does this jive with the report that Sony were doubling their manufacturing of the PS5 to 10 million units by the end of this year, and that supply was meant to see them through to ~March 2021? That would put them at about 3 million more units than the PS4 had for the same period.
My assumption was that this whole pre-order thing Sony opened up was simply for that new PlayStation retail channel they opened up in the US in the last year or so, just a direct way for them to sell to customers. I could see that specific retail channel being supply constrained because they also have to send enough stock to other retailers and other countries. If the 10 million unit report is accurate then I shouldn't expect things to be quite as dire as you're indicating they could be on the whole. I still expect the PS5 to completely sell out though, it'll be THE hot ticket item this holiday worldwide.
kyliethicc
Member
Wrong, higher price would indicate higher supply. Remember econ 101?
Imtjnotu
Member
kyliethicc
Member
I bet Sony will open pre-orders directly from their own site before they allow other retailers to take orders.
MasterCornholio
Member
You know that both Microsoft and Sony are supposed to have two SKUs right?
So giving one price point for the PS5 is a mistake. I highly doubt the DE will cost 599$ while the Physical costs more than that.
vivftp
Member
While I suppose anything's possible I'm going to guess no. This new PlayStation retail channel only applies to the USA. It doesn't make much sense to put the entire rest of the world on hold like that. I'm guessing the moment the price drops retailers around the world will get their pre-order pages going.
kyliethicc
Member
Yeah you're probably right. Jim Ryan has said he wants a global launch, but PS4 did launch first in US & CA.
But I wouldn't be shocked if Sony prioritizes US (biggest market) and wants to drive pre-orders to their own site.
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Dodkrake
Banned
Wait, what? That may be right, by per the laws of supply and demand, if there is low supply and high demand, prices go up, not down. This is why scalpers get to oversell by margins of 50+% of MSRP
bitbydeath
Member
And Sony will still move all 10M units they produce this year.
Games Dean
Member
You're partially right here. Spot on with the newer D2C retail channel which will definitely be constrained. However, that second bach of production that will get the PS5 up to 10 million by early next year will not be ready for the holiday season. It will be targeted in the late January,Feb-March window. So it's likely that at launch they'll be handicapped by available supply.
Where I disagree with Bloomberg's reporting is that they said Sony originally chose to have such limited supply at launch because they thought the console would be too premium for large-scale early adoption. That reasoning is dumb as all hell if true considering the ridiculous engagement anything PS5 related has gotten from people dating back to the logo reveal in January. I think it's more likely that lingering effects from the virus in China and other countries that are part of the supply chain made it impossible to manufacture the number of consoles they really wanted for launch. That's why the second batch is so large. They're trying to catch up on production now that things have mostly stabalized in the East.
kyliethicc
Member
Google image supply curve. Producers will gladly produce & supply more goods at higher prices. Demand drops.
I'm saying if Sony could sell PS5s for $1000 they would produce even more, if they could sell them. Issue is demand drops, so they won't bother.
If demand is fixed and same across all prices, supply rises with price.
Sony knows demand will rise as price falls. So if PS5 will be in short supply, that indicates a lower price because demand is expected to be very high.
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PaintTinJr
Member
I would wonder if COVID also makes things a bit more tricky than before, because you want to make sure that you haven't shipped product to regions that don't have demand that meets what you supply, and then leave high demand areas with insufficient stock.
Previously, reshipping was probably easy enough, and even reworking excess stock (PSU, firmware region etc) for different regions in extreme cases was probably an option, also. This time round it feels like the stock that gets shipped needs to sell at its location - and maybe the easiest way to do that is with an email to scare us all with the prospect of not being able to buy one at launch.
splattered
Member
I have no idea guys, i just don't have faith that either company are going to deliver a console below $499 digital or otherwise and with sufficient quantities.
Not my first rodeo though, i'll get in line wherever or however i need to.
Only problem is i need TWO Xbox consoles at launch, and Sony is limiting the PS5 to one per household here.
Wraith Phantom
Member
Ah man thats good to hear no furloughs. It's been pretty rough out there has been many casualty sadly. I don't think PS outbid them. PS has been lead platform for a good while. Its dev & publisher relations have been going strong this gen. It's in best interest for publishers to go with PS by default. Xbox without doubt would have matched PS offers. In the end they just don't have the numbers to give Pubs ROI. Pubs lose too much money. Those sale charts ,attach rates, MXT numbers matter. 1 month or 2 exclusivity is not going to stop people in accounts looking at spreadsheets sweating. And during covid and corporation struggles. Imagine reporting sales losses to companys like Activision. When the projection on PS are way higher. You are getting fired. "Not all money is good money"
Put it this way one of the recent Capcom shareholding meetings. It was revealed that there was only 5% of sales coming from xbox. 5% on big franchise games. Do you really think PS would pay more for deals ,when xbox is putting out 5% in sales?? You can bet that there are more shocking numbers throughout other games/publishers. PS will be paying market value based of their data metrics.
There's many other things going on behind the scene's on the political side. But i want to keep this short. The PR & media push Xbox has been doing with Gamepass is probably not going down well in the industry. PS cant get all the deals so we thought ,but yet all xbox has is indie devs game. That kind of tells you where they are at.
Shmunter
Member
Ok, now I'm beginning to feel sorry for our green bro's. Just can't catch a break. Blame MS mismanagement, car salesman tactics, and general lack of gaming acumen for putting the fans out as fodder.Xbox stupid delivery
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Dodkrake
Banned
I'm talking about short supply and high demand. In that scenario, prices will increase because you have more potential buyers per unit
3liteDragon
Member
Not happening.
BGs
Industry Professional
PS5 supports 128GB BDXL.
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IbelieveInGenerations
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MasterCornholio
Member
What's funny is that Sony doesn't have that policy yet PS5 owners are still getting free next gen upgrades. When developers are forced to follow a policy like that they will always find a way around which could end up hurting consumers in the end.
I think they shouldn't block pro-consumer decisions by developers but they shouldn't force it either. Allow consumers to vote with their wallets by supporting developers that choose to be consumer friendly.
tillbot8
Banned
Me too pleaseI like to have a ticket too, don't left me standing alone
SportsFan581
Member
But games that are next-gen only can use whatever they want. How is that holding anything back? For cross-gen games you might get some double disk games, big deal.
See above. LOL
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kyliethicc
Member
Sure but not the supplier's price. That's aftermarket. I wasn't talking about that when you quoted me before.
If Sony knows PS5 will sell 3-4 million at launch, they would supply more units at $600 per unit then they would at $500 per unit because they'd make more money. Again, this would be if demand was same at both prices.
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particleparade
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"Our selection is based on previous interests and PlayStation activities."
Any guesses as to what the criteria will be?
Any guesses as to what the criteria will be?
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kyliethicc
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