Mr. PlayStation
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2.13 - 2.19 seconds on average when ratchet enters the first portal and leaves the last portal to the actual game world
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2.13 - 2.19 seconds on average when ratchet enters the first portal and leaves the last portal to the actual game world
SaucyJack
Member
Yep, that much we agree on.
No one cares whether the portal transition is 1 or 2 seconds.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
I think you misunderstood his point the message was more akin to this saying That you can prove the existence of something with a simple proof but you can't prove the inexistence of something the same way.
It's a bit like proving the existence of a unicorn if you find one then there is proof of its existence but you can't just look at one horse and say "look that's not a unicorn henceforth unicorns don't exists".
And I understand it is more of a philiosophical dilemma that probably doesn't really have it's place here.
And you are some kind of an expert about not answering the bloody points as can be seen in your previous posts.
FranXico
Member
People are trying to explain that if the hardware was not capable of fast load times, transition times of 2 seconds would not be possible in any game, period.
Slowing down a transition with capable hardware - assuming that "Geoff's Astrobot demo" was even actually running on a PS5 - is easy, speeding it up with hardware that's incapable is impossible.
Mr Moose
Gold Member
Ghost Of Tsushima's Loading Times Are So Good They Had To Be Nerfed
Ghost of Tsushima, out tomorrow, features some of the fastest loading times I’ve seen in a modern game despite its beautiful, expansive environments. They’re so short, in fact, that it’s often hard to read more than one or two of the gameplay tips the developers included as filler between...
kotaku.com
Though I don't think it is the case with R&C, it is a possibility.
TheGreatWhiteShark
Member
Well, I know this does not suit your narrative, but I was only replying to this fella right here:
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
You want examples ? Really? Here we go: - that halo video titled are halo graphism really flat where he states that it is because of shadows that the game look like this and how to fix it easily.ecause that's exatly what the titlesaid it would be excuses and justifications. -him not being able...
He timed the xbox demo loading times, and he got me concerned
So I did some comparative timing
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
Yeah no. I thought that person was already proven to be a fake? Phil Spencer is the real deal, tho he confuses his arse for his mouth (or vice versa)
and for your own information, I am both at "xboxland" AND at "playstationland"
I just dont like FUD and console racism
FranXico
Member
The geometry and assets variety and complexity in Ratchet & Clank is much larger.Ghost Of Tsushima's Loading Times Are So Good They Had To Be Nerfed
Ghost of Tsushima, out tomorrow, features some of the fastest loading times I’ve seen in a modern game despite its beautiful, expansive environments. They’re so short, in fact, that it’s often hard to read more than one or two of the gameplay tips the developers included as filler between...
Though I don't think it is the case with R&C, it is a possibility.
I think it only works in GoT because many of the game world assets fit in the RAM and don't need to be reloaded, while a lot of details like grass can be generated procedurally.
Thirty7ven
Banned
"Console racism"
*shivers*
*shivers*
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lepermessiah
Member
Takes 2 seconds for Spence dog to come usually. We're working on it. He feels good though.
kyliethicc
Member
If we keep indulging the shark troll, we can get to 3000 pages before we get prices or release dates.
I still hope the PS5 has an extra USB port on the back.
I still hope the PS5 has an extra USB port on the back.
TheGreatWhiteShark
Member
By the way,
microsoft Japan with series X is the opening showcase at Tokyo Games Show with a 50 minute show, right after the opening ceremony
September 24th:
21:00 ~ 21:50 - Xbox Tokyo Game Show Showcase 2020
microsoft Japan with series X is the opening showcase at Tokyo Games Show with a 50 minute show, right after the opening ceremony
September 24th:
21:00 ~ 21:50 - Xbox Tokyo Game Show Showcase 2020
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TheGreatWhiteShark
Member
I like your definition of troll, I only put up video segments and ask everybody to time them.
Very rich coming from you.
Before than, I want to see if they are doing anything at all for xbox
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Mr. PlayStation
Member
Team Xbox has been teasing a lot of collaboration with Japanese dev community this time around compared to current gen. I wouldn't be surprised if plethora of xbox timed exclusives from the land of rising sun are announced at TGS and boom announce the price of Series X, outsell PS5 in Sony's home turf.
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
The FUD spreader doesn't like FUD lmao
jimbojim
Banned
Also this:
PlayStation 5 Seemingly Delayed - US/Canada First, Rest of the World Later?
A recent trailer by Activision seems to suggest that the PlayStation 5 will be delayed for the rest of the world, launching in the US & Canada first.wccftech.com
The fuck?
How it can be delayed when Sony didn't announced specific dates for launch, only launch period?
Saudumm
Member
It'll be a 50 minute long demo of Yakuza 7.Before than, I want to see if they are doing anything at all for xbox
TheGreatWhiteShark
Member
...and some of you guys dare call me a shark troll
I give this a 50% chance. the other 50% is that they'll also have 1-2 more games no one has ever heard or cared about.
But Japan would be a good place to show the small form factor series S
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2ndKrueger
Neo Member
My weekly post of: It's Playstation Tuesday
Isnt astro a Duelsense showcase? Why are you using it as an argument against the SSD?Yes, because astro playground is the real heavy shit, right?
And this is the tech demo that will come pre-installed in every console.
Keep denying and writing cheeky remarks.
Very beneficial.
jimbojim
Banned
Yeah, both games are EQUALL in graphics, destruction, fidelity.
Your post few weeks ago :
TheGreatWhiteShark
Member
I am comparing loading times on everything there is available running on both consoles.
If I missed something, you tell me about it
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mejin
Member
Before than, I want to see if they are doing anything at allfor xbox
People are longing for them to bring back Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey ips, but it is kinda difficult to see them doing it right now.
It is not impossible, just highly improbable. Microsoft still takes part in the gaming events cause they don't have the power to attract people to their own event like Sony.
But I could see they using this event to bring more ports directly to gamepass like the rest of Yakuza games, maybe Judgment.
Mr. PlayStation
Member
...and some of you guys dare call me a shark troll
I give this a 50% chance. the other 50% is that they'll also have 1-2 more games no one has ever heard or cared about.
But Japan would be a good place to show the small form factor series S
I ain't trolling buddy, I am being fair here. Xbox said they've learned a lot to treat Japanese region with lot more aggressive and passionate approach for next gen.
TheGreatWhiteShark
Member
1. "people", like people from Japan?
2. actually it is the textbook definition of "impossible"
Agnostic2020
Member
Once the VS between XSX and PS5 load times are out , u wish u wouldn't have focused on it so much
GianEnemyCrab
Neo Member
Do you guys have any idea regarding the time frame around which Sony makes it anouncements ?
I dont remeber the aprox. time when the older anouncements were made
I dont remeber the aprox. time when the older anouncements were made
You are a piece of work aren't you?
You posted a list of 10 unsupported claims. I foolishly took them seriously enough to research the first two points - only to discover that both were complete bullshit.
I proved the first two point wrong with actual links and quotes. Strangely you haven't addressed any of that? I think we both know why.
You can't.
So why would I give you the benefit of the doubt on the other eight points?
In all likelihood you just parrot that stuff with no idea if it's true or not. Must be annoying to be called out. You need to recognise that It's not true just because you say it is.
I'm not about to waste my time researching the rest of your list for you. You're making the claims, the onus of proof is on you.
You can start by posting direct quotes or links supporting your other eight, probably made-up, 'mic drops'.
Be sure to give me a heads-up when you've done it. It'll be an interesting read. Though I won't be holding my breath.
Neo Blaster
Member
Yep, what makes me think: how about PS4 Pro? The moment PS5 arrives, it won't be the premium PS experience anymore, nor the budget option. Sony should retire it altogether.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Bo, you're wrong. The counter is timecode. It measures seconds and video frames. Every second of video is appx 25 frames. it isn't skipping anything.
Edit: Reading back through this thread I think a few of you owe ol' Sharky an apology. Geez, you guys are super quick to jump to conclusions.
It's amazing (not in a good way).
TheGreatWhiteShark
So it's a wrong type of timers, which still makes it wrong?
zaitsu
Banned
Let's wait for UI show. I remeber reading somewhere that they added screen transition with launching game, because it was so fast that people were shocked how blazing fast it is and it was strange to them.
I want to point one thing :
On phones when you launching apps you get animation transition.
When you use iphone and android which are on the same level, with animations turned on android they fell the same.
But when you turn off android animation it fell snappier than iphone. But lack of animations make it fell strange and jerky. Thats why animations exists. Not only its giving time app/games/assets time to launch but also can look nice.
I don't expect under 1 second launch time on PS5 because it would look rushed. It will be always like 2 s. Screen blackout and some fancy transition animation. For the sake of having nice look to it.
I want to point one thing :
On phones when you launching apps you get animation transition.
When you use iphone and android which are on the same level, with animations turned on android they fell the same.
But when you turn off android animation it fell snappier than iphone. But lack of animations make it fell strange and jerky. Thats why animations exists. Not only its giving time app/games/assets time to launch but also can look nice.
I don't expect under 1 second launch time on PS5 because it would look rushed. It will be always like 2 s. Screen blackout and some fancy transition animation. For the sake of having nice look to it.
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Mr. PlayStation
Member
What about Persona?
Saudumm
Member
usually around 8am pacific
Neo Blaster
Member
It should be revived by a price drop.
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
Yes, I think someone on here once explained in quite a bit of detail why it could technically be done faster by just showing a black screen for less than a second then pop you straight into the next world, but because they want it to transition, the system can't just cull all assets from memory and start fresh, they have to still be showing elements of the other. Regardless, 1,2,3,4 seconds, whatever is a generational shift and will allow new experiences to be explored. Imagine grabbing a rift portal and then waiting 90 seconds
kyliethicc
Member
If they are announcing an event for next week, they'd announce it on friday.
Vae_Victis
Banned
In terms of time of day, usually 4-6 hours from now?
If you mean how in advance they announce events, the Future of Gaming one was originally announced before the delay I believe May 29 for June 4, so less than a week earlier. Which means if there really is a PS5 event September 7, they could announce it today or tomorrow.
TheGreatWhiteShark
Member
oh boy - oh boy....So it's a wrong type of timers, which still makes it wrong?
go on, time it yourself
No. The timer isn't wrong. It counts in seconds and frames, a defined fraction of a second.So it's a wrong type of timers, which still makes it wrong?
Video runs at twenty-five frames per second (minor variations depending what country you're from), so the counter logs one second for every twenty-five frames. For instance one second plus twenty-five frames is two seconds total. Yes, two seconds, exactly like a clock.
So, in short, two seconds = two seconds, regardless of the counter.
Thegreatwhiteshark was right all along. The video isn't edited or manipulated, you could just've timed the bloody thing to see for yourself how long the transition was. All the bullshit about the counter was just you kicking up dust and denying the bleeding obvious.
You are now, and have always been, completely wrong on this issue. You spent a significant amount of time accusing other people of spreading FUD simply because you don't know anything about video timecode.
If you have any integrity at all you'll just admit an honest mistake and move on.
mejin
Member
1. "people", like people from Japan?
2. actually it is the textbook definition of "impossible"
Nah, japanese developers know they have to make their games to the world, not the tiny island. And western market have great demand for japanese games right now. When I say people I say in general. That's the gist of it no matter if it's for Playstation or Xbox.
We can never say no, but I'm just skeptical by nature.
Would be a hell of a surprise when even nintendo is still in the shadow. Although this is the kind of series I could see Sony going to make partnership this time.
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TheGreatWhiteShark
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ThanksBo, you're wrong. The counter is timecode. It measures seconds and video frames. Every second of video is appx 25 frames. it isn't skipping anything.
Edit: Reading back through this thread I think a few of you owe ol' Sharky an apology. Geez, you guys are super quick to jump to conclusions.
It's amazing (not in a good way).
jimbojim
Banned
Stop pretending. You're not. Surely i'm not. You're spreading crap all the time.
saintjules
Member
I've seen various times that they post announcements. They use a scheduler for Twitter as some tweets are right at the top of the hour.
In EST, I've seen announcements as early as:
9am
11am-12pm
1pm-4pm
4pm is the latest I've seen for the types of announcements we look for. The DualSense reveal for example was at that time.
My point is R&C transitions were built around the SSD, astro bot is a DS showcase. It's not really fair to use astro bot as loading benchmark.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
You are beyond redemption. I'm not interested in measuring the time of a 1-2 second max transition that's impossible on other hardware to load actual full worlds as confirmed by Insomniac devs, I'm only clearing it for people not to fall for that stupid fake timer.
Spreading crap and fighting against crap aren't the same thing.
thurnishaleygw
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