Neo Blaster
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If they took a direct conversion from Brazilian price, everyone would go into desperation.
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If they took a direct conversion from Brazilian price, everyone would go into desperation.
kyliethicc
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They have quite literally nothing to worry about. (In the context in which I was speaking of.) Don't be pedantic.
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MasterCornholio
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The sad thing is that people will go to multiple stores to get around that. The PS5 is still getting scalped but maybe it won't be the worse case scenario.
kyliethicc
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No but the $300 consoles now are about $420 there currently. Different taxes I'm sure.
Neo Blaster
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Yep, they pretty much have Europe/Japan locked, it's US/UK they need to make a killer blow against MS.
Lysandros
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Do you think PS5 having more GPU L2 cache available 'per CU' (if PS5 has 4 or 5 mb) would improve CU efficiency?All Audio will eat bandwidth, and as long as the GPU or CPU L2 level caches are not starved its all about balance,
For the GPU and simple, its SSD > Memory > L2 Cache > L1 Cache > L0 shader
In those 4 steps, each one gets faster and faster until at the business end and what will bottleneck is unknown to people like us.
On XSX we are told L2 is increased to 5 MB, and L1 feeds the shader array L0 of 14 CU.
On Ps5 we dont know yet, but all caches will be 20 % faster (clock rate) and L1 will feed a shader array of 10 CU.
You cant just look at Bandwidth of 1 item, and its the end result of how all of it works in a game is whats important. For your info, here is the RDNA1 bandwidths...
Thats why clock is also important and the limit where clocks are impacted by logic propagation.Ps5 will have some tastey L2 to L0 bandwidths....To be discussed on teardown and RDAN2 white paper when we get it.
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Moses85
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It is even more easy. If you look what Microsoft has shown until now. This is a joke.
sojuwarrior
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yup $599 + tax + exchange diff makes the most sense
ppl might argue its $100 too expensive but personally thinks its more than fair
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
Based on what Microsoft showed it's not worth it and you better pay the extra for PS5 DE.
Neo Blaster
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And yet they'll use fake accounts, like I said it doesn't matter, they're always there.
kyliethicc
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And Sony did charge the same price for PS4 in USD and EURO despite exchange differences. So consoles even when converted can cost different amounts in each market.
saintjules
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Looking more like Sony at least may very well be doing what Phone Companies do; Show their pricing and pre-order info a month before launch.
kyliethicc
Member
That's why Sony is choosing who gets to pre-order first based on PSN account data. Smart.
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MasterCornholio
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Software is key when it comes to selling consoles. The sad thing about Xbox is that it will be a while before their output increases. Please there will certainly be some titles designed for gamepass coming from them so not everything will be gold.
saintjules
Member
They very well could. Which I begin to wonder - who are they targeting with these Consoles? Just hardcore fans in the first run of shipments? A lot of people IRL that I'm surrounded by have 0 idea next gen Consoles were coming.
kyliethicc
Member
Xbox best chance is to offer new console & game pass for $25 per month, no lump sum payment up front.
They need to market the choice of XSS vs PS5 like this:
PS5 costs over $650 for a new next gen console + tax + 2 games, up front all at once.
XSS only costs $25 a month (+ tax) for a new next console + 100s of games. No need to spend big this fall. Save cash etc.
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sojuwarrior
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upon second look, it is probably pringles' own internal estimated price,,,I doubt they know the actual price.....
J_Gamer.exe
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All signs point to news soon IMO, the ramping up of high up Sony people tweets, emails and info has been steadily increasing and can only be leading to a big moment.
You dont ramp up excitement leading to nothing.
You dont ramp up excitement leading to nothing.
kyliethicc
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There was previous leaked sweepstakes bundle for a XSX + Halo Infinite bundle (pre-delay) that was listed as worth $599 each in the fine print. (Total value of sweepstakes / by number of units.)
Those special edition bundles usually include the game for free, same cost as otherwise. Like Switch + Mario Kart for $299.
So it very well could be a $599 console.
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
Yeah they'll sell out but they have to get stock out to do that so that's is something to worry about.
Joking
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Zheph
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Indeed, everyone is being impatient. The day is not over yet
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
Then just fuck them.
Neo Blaster
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And let's not forget there's a new variable: which model should they stock more, disc or discless?Yeah they'll sell out but they have to get stock out to do that so that's is something to worry about.
Apollo Helios
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But US sales are NOT inclusive of any taxes customers have to pay (they pay more), but EU prices are tax inclusive so that is exactly what customers pay, so with addition of tax, new $price = to tax incl. price in Euros.
then look third time the text in black portion says prices are garnered from MS themselves for the official valuation of the raffle.
hemo memo
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I can't believe you are saying this when you have a Cloud avatar.
kyliethicc
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The context for what I was speaking of was "nothing to worry about" the time between launch and announcing price & date. That's it.Yeah they'll sell out but they have to get stock out to do that so that's is something to worry about.
Joking
Of course they have other things to worry about. I did not think I would need to spell that out for anyone.
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hemo memo
You can't die before your death
You have to. You keep forgetting that this is serious business.
SportsFan581
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Games Dean
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I agree. I personally couldn't care less what the price is or the release date. It's not a problem for me. I care much more about seeing the UI, Create Button feature, and service updates. The only thing on the price/date side I want is preorders so I can lock my unit down as early as possible and avoid the anxiety of trying to get one this year.
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kyliethicc
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To be fair, despite its lack of exclusives, the Series X will have the performance of a PC build that would cost almost $1500 to buy from scratch this fall. $600 is a good value. (And forgive me I'm not a PC user so this build could be wrong.)I've resigned myself to $599 after hot chips. It is what it is.
kyliethicc
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Exactly! Show us the UI Cerny!
Setsuna Mudou
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1st thing wrong is actually adding the price for windows in thereTo be fair, despite its lack of exclusives, the Series X will have the performance of a PC build that would cost almost $1500 to buy from scratch this fall. $600 is a good value. (And forgive me I'm not a PC user so this build could be wrong.)
2nd is having the home edition o.0
$100 is a bit much for a case really, but ok
You can definitely get a cheaper m.2 drive, even staying at 1TB. Bought mine for about $100 late last year, just won't be samsung.
Could save a few $ going for the ryzen 3700 non X version too.
Probably forgot mouse&kb plus monitor since you're going for a new build. Otherwise why not repurpose most components from your previous desktop (power supply, case, ram, etc...)
sircaw
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To be fair, despite its lack of exclusives, the Series X will have the performance of a PC build that would cost almost $1500 to buy from scratch this fall. $600 is a good value. (And forgive me I'm not a PC user so this build could be wrong.)
All that cash and you still expect me to put it all together WTF
Just give me my ps5. DONE DUSTED.
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
To be fair, despite its lack of exclusives, the Series X will have the performance of a PC build that would cost almost $1500 to buy from scratch this fall. $600 is a good value. (And forgive me I'm not a PC user so this build could be wrong.)
I don't want to bother with a PC so for me it's not about price but convenience + playing PlayStation Studios day 1.
JonnyMP3
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You're missing a cooler.To be fair, despite its lack of exclusives, the Series X will have the performance of a PC build that would cost almost $1500 to buy from scratch this fall. $600 is a good value. (And forgive me I'm not a PC user so this build could be wrong.)
Edit: No you're not. The X comes with one. It's the XT that doesn't come with a cooler.
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Killer Sakoman
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That's an excellent price for a PC that will outperform XsX.To be fair, despite its lack of exclusives, the Series X will have the performance of a PC build that would cost almost $1500 to buy from scratch this fall. $600 is a good value. (And forgive me I'm not a PC user so this build could be wrong.)
Nvidia made sure that at least XsX lose every hope to sell to those who are undecided between console or PC. While Phill Spencer's startegy made sure that XsX will not sell to PC gamers who want secondary platform.
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Three Jackdaws
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My favourite game of all time. I am so happy! no loading times and ray-tracing??! fuck yes!
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Salesman: "What are you in the market for sir?"
Customer: "Well I'd like to spend around $500, and get a really streamlined out of the box experience with an OS focused only on gaming and video streaming apps, and it needs to be small because I don't have much room in my entertainment stand."
Salesman: "Well, can I interest you in hunting down deals on a dozen different parts totaling over $1500? You'd have to build the machine, install an OS not streamlined at all for gaming, and the experience is best if you have a desk and a monitor but theoretically you could re-arrange your living room furniture, spend another $100 on a wireless keyboard and mouse and use the thing from your couch. Good luck if something has small fonts though since the software in general is designed for you being a few feet from a monitor, I'm sure a few hours of googling and tinkering with mods can solve that."
Customer: "WOW! That sounds like exactly what I'm looking for! I've spent my whole life console gaming but a series of graphics cards costing over $500 totally convinced me to switch!"
Customer: "Well I'd like to spend around $500, and get a really streamlined out of the box experience with an OS focused only on gaming and video streaming apps, and it needs to be small because I don't have much room in my entertainment stand."
Salesman: "Well, can I interest you in hunting down deals on a dozen different parts totaling over $1500? You'd have to build the machine, install an OS not streamlined at all for gaming, and the experience is best if you have a desk and a monitor but theoretically you could re-arrange your living room furniture, spend another $100 on a wireless keyboard and mouse and use the thing from your couch. Good luck if something has small fonts though since the software in general is designed for you being a few feet from a monitor, I'm sure a few hours of googling and tinkering with mods can solve that."
Customer: "WOW! That sounds like exactly what I'm looking for! I've spent my whole life console gaming but a series of graphics cards costing over $500 totally convinced me to switch!"
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hemo memo
You can't die before your death
My favourite game of all time. I am so happy! no loading times and ray-tracing??! fuck yes!
My favorite game of all time too. Just finished B&W and boy what an experience. It gets me more excited to play Cyberpunk.
House set him up so well no matter what he does Sony wins with 70% plus market share. My point is he is lucky to be facing a late and under funded phil Spencer. If this was his strategy versus a properly funded Peter moore he would get his clock cleaned. Jim "money hat" Ryan is just ego stroking at this point being a secret squirrel to try to show he is the man.
The late pre order date ensures no second wave of pre orders making them more valuable hence more scalpers. This is a 1 shot deal outside a few retailers who will gouge with "bundles". Your cart crashes and your at the mercy of retail bundles. Also the late date puts more casual gamers in the queue for xmas gifts.
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hemo memo
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Outside of GAF it's not only about the cost (which console will always beat) and highest graphics but ease and convenient (which consoles will always beat). (Build a PC) gets thrown a lot here but it's not that simple for the average consumer. People will simply not bother.
existensmaximum
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"Also, if you have any interest in physical media for your game collection, or even selling/trading/giving away games you've finished, it's impossible!"
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Yeah that's my point; people have been not bothering their entire lives.
I do see some people excited by the nVidia cards, saying they might switch to PC or build a PC..
Which is cool and all.. but I have my doubts it's some statistically significant bunch. And they need to really think about whether they are ready for PC gaming.
I'm a PC gamer and the experience is not very console like. Hell I even have a PC hooked up to my living room TV, have gaming laptops I bring to hotels and game on TVs there. It's not very user friendly though.. luckily I've been PC gaming since I was like 5 years old.. I still find it a pain in the ass sometimes.
hemo memo
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"Also you'll be spending more time on settings than playing the game."
CrysisFreak
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You have two new items in your steam inventory!!!!11!
azertydu91
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I totally agree with you Nvidia power won't kill Xbox but it can make a dent in its hardware sales.
And that's also why I think it is a good thing the Xbox releases its 1st party games on Pc.For customers like me it is good way to still get money.I am more of a PC/playstation guy so this way they can get my money when I buy their games on pc.
So the argument of power becomes really moot with the Xbox and I wouldn't have bought an Xbox for the few exclusives that interest me.
And I think they looked at the venn diagram of people interested in Pc, people interested in Xbox and people interested in Xbox games.Then if releasestheir games on pc makes them more money than the dent in hardware then It's a profit....Not even counting that their games can become a garteway toward the Xbox ecosystem and games (same reason why Horizon just came out on PC).
So of course people interested in consoles and Xbox games will buy an Xbox and that's great for them.But for the people leaning toward a pc that can find redundancy wth an Xbox they still get to buy their games ...It's a win win situation.
Sethbacca
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C'mon man. Playing frames >>>> Playing games.
spartan30gr
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If whe have not an announcement today from sony
I bellieve that whe have something next week from them for an event , to the midle of september
I bellieve that whe have something next week from them for an event , to the midle of september
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