Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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Well if you are trying to hit a price point, and expect to sell millions.. every dollar saved is millions made.

That's why something like an "expensive cooling solution" that's actually $10 instead of $2 matters in this world. Multiply that by 50 million and you have real money.

True.

When you think about it, they might also see value in PS4 being on shelves with 500GB vs. PS5 with 825GB. Certainly the SSD is worth a lot more, but companies are funny and these are the kind of details they obsess over.
 
The I/O on the XSS is the same as the XSX.

Third party games will need to take into account PC either way. And when I say PC I don't mean 1.5k PCs or RTX 3080s....

Anyhow, scalability is a thing. There are limits there of course, and PS5 exclusives (1st party) will be the ones taking bigger leaps with the tech.

I expected a 5 GB / s at least present in SX, RTX IO commented an IO of 14 GB / s compressed.

if SX currently takes 12 sec to get the game to start. We could be talking about a much lower I / O which will weigh down the design of all 3rd games.

If we add to that XSS 52 seconds. I'm already pretty sure the I / O was going to be useless.

It is a very sad day for a gamer.
 
Generally the GCC is a big market for many car manufacturers such as Toyota, GMC, Nissan, Ford, Honds.... Etc. Actually many of them survive on GCC.

Hmm, won't count GMC/Ford/Honda. Our market is like an afterthought to them, although Honda is extremely reliable but it doesn't have cars dependent on the GCC market like Land Cruiser LC 200, LC70, Nissan Patrol Y62, Y61. :messenger_winking: These 4 cars would've been discontinued years ago. Chevrolet dealer here sold 69 cars total in 2019, Nissan Patrol alone sold 16,000+ in the same year (most sold car, mostly military and police and other agencies). Most of the US cars here are now imported second hand from the US market for cheaper prices.
 
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It's the same here, priced at ~35,000 OMR ($101,000 USD) for VXE model, same price goes to Nissan Patrol LE, both with their variations dominate the roads. But because offroad is still relevant here, although streets stretch nearly everywhere. ;)
I could never pay that much for a Toyota SUV lol. But I prefer sports cars so thats just me.
 
I expected a 5 GB / s at least present in SX, RTX IO commented an IO of 14 GB / s compressed.

if SX currently takes 12 sec to get the game to start. We could be talking about a much lower I / O which will weigh down the design of all 3rd games.

If we add to that XSS 52 seconds. I'm already pretty sure the I / O was going to be useless.

It is a very sad day for a gamer.
I would day it is a sad day someone claims to watch the video and get the results wrong. Watch the video and get back to us not a FUD site.
 
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PS5 design is definitively good... so beautiful.
The only part that breaks the design is the BD bay... so the DE version looks better.
 
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The top green in the vents should have been a LED light. Once I found out its just green plastic it got kinda ruined for me.

Cool box, but the console should have glowed green out the top in the dark.
I don't think it can be done, it's where the fan is. With a led you'd have the fan shadow flickering, I guess.
 
Will it leave the store faster? 🤔

Yeah XSX sure not but XSS absolutely will. Sony absolutely lost the price war and Microsoft aggressive even taking a loss on both just to be sure they win the price. Sony need to push games big time as a reason why to everyone should buy the (surely?)more expensive consoles. If only Sony would wake up and announce the event already.
 
Yeah XSX sure not but XSS absolutely will. Sony absolutely lost the price war and Microsoft aggressive even taking a loss on both just to be sure they win the price. Sony need to push games big time as a reason why to everyone should buy the (surely?)more expensive consoles. If only Sony would wake up and announce the event already.
I don't think they won the price though. But we'll see.
 
Don't be a jackass, this "walking simulator creator" worked with Peter Molyneux at Lionhead for several years, was his right hand. He knows what he's talking about.
nobody that talks like this really knows what he is talking about.
having a nextgen machine at a low price point really expands and broadens the market where he sells.
bottom line, it is more work for him, more money.
these are stupid takes that stem from a very shallow train of thought.
 
Yeah XSX sure not but XSS absolutely will. Sony absolutely lost the price war and Microsoft aggressive even taking a loss on both just to be sure they win the price. Sony need to push games big time as a reason why to everyone should buy the (surely?)more expensive consoles. If only Sony would wake up and announce the event already.

How many current PS4 owners will switch over to the XSS?

It seems like the XSS is for a different type of consumer.
 
I wonder if we will next Monster Hunter game in next Sony event, but maybe too soon but man I can't wait this game is gonna so kreygasm specially with no loading time, can't wait.
 
Just dropping in to say hi after recently joining GAF. I have been lurking for a very long time. This thread alone has provided me with
hours of entertainment from the technical analysis/speculation, gossip, witty repartee and creative FUDamentalism (from all camps).
 
I would day it is a sad day someone claims to watch the video and get the results wrong. Watch the video and get back to us not a FUD site.

I do not understand your comment, the video is official xbox from a few days ago. Why wouldn't XVA work? Even if it were without compression, it will be 6 seconds and if XboxSeriesS takes 53 seconds, it is not even correctly using the 2 lanes of PCIEGEN4 that it theoretically has.

Adapting the games to a very bad IO is impossible, it will require design changes and that is uneconomical so they will design for the minimum possible.

If the data we have is correct, it will limit the games for the next few years. It doesn't matter which olastic box is your favorite or your brand, no one can be happy with it.
 
The way things are going with XBox Game Pass on PC I don't think I will ever buy another XBOX console again, I have a pro in the living room and a kick ass gaming rig in my office. being 43 I have to balance life and I only have so much time to game. I guess MS are happy as they still get my money but I am very much a fan of Sony's exclusives so that the console I get no matter the specs and then I spend good money on decent PC upgrades every 2 - 3 years. Maybe that's MS plan and that's fine but they have given me no reason to buy their actual console
 

Series S looks good compared with Series X.
It is less thin than I expected too.

Said that is it really the smaller Xbox ever made? Because it doesn't look like it... seems like the 360 Slim or Xbox One S are smallers.

BTW where is the dam hardware to run games, MS?
 
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Series S looks good compared with Series X.
It is less thin than I expected too.

Said that is it really the smaller Xbox ever made? Because it doesn't look like it... seems like the 360 Slim or Xbox One S are smallers.

It's has a lot less depth to it, and they measure in volume (same way everybody measures their consoles).
 
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