Shmunter
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It's likely due to not having a proper idea of their supply chain ability. Sony arranged air freight as an unusual step during this pandemic. MS probably spinning in circles.
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Yes back on talking points the GAAS boogie man. Yes hell blade 2, project mara, the 3 single player rpgs in development yes bad Microsoft. Online destruction all stars and online the last of us good Sony.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
A lot of people think they are one and the same.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Could simply be related to their credit "All Access" program. They had to send a bunch of shit to retailers to get them setup for that, which would cause the date to leak anyways, and thus decided to announce?
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Dave_at_Home
Member
Ah, I see. People had linked the two at some point. Probably thinking they we're the same person.
Edit: Thought it was strange that someone said he denied the Series S existence. Had to check the actual Matt's Twitter feed.
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kyliethicc
Member
A retailer is selling the Xbox Far Cry 6 for less than full price before it has released.If that's what you got
That implies demand is.... not good.
thebigmanjosh
Member
Sony did air freight for PS4 launch as well so it's not unusual.
Nikana
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Shmunter
Member
We can only hope
RPGs i wouldnt really count. Those usually have many more hours spent on them. And if you find any area that MS does business and they arent looking for a way to make it a service, it will be a first. I personally have no issue with it and usually prefer that style game anyway
saintjules
Member
Just an FYI that Walmart US will withdraw the funds from your card at checkout. They did on mine last night.
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LED Guy?
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I know you're joking, but the game got upgraded graphically, I thought when I saw the 2018 48 minutes gameplay reveal that it would surely get downgraded because of base PS4/XB1 consoles, but as of now, the game got UPGRADED visually, it's unbelievable! This is a Gif CDPR just released today of the final build I presume....and here I compared it against the 2018 one.Cyberpunk 2077:
Absolutely looks like crap. Yes. Jesus christ.
This is the 2018 build:
This is the final build:
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kyliethicc
Member
thats a funny gif and I get you disagree.
But thats basic economics. If those games were flying off the online "shelf", like say Animal Crossing is, they wouldn't cut the price.
But it does look like Xbox might be sticking with lower prices for games. Will be interesting to find out.
Shmunter
Member
Nothing like this.....it's unprecedented
- Sony is drafting in a fleet of 60 planes to ship the PS5.
- The company is footing a considerable bill to ensure enough supply of PS5s arrive in the US for launch later this year.
- The gaming giant is expected to reveal the PS5 release date and pricing information during tomorrow's showcase.
Dave_at_Home
Member
We got Demon Souls at the end of the day.
Or I guess I should say right at the beginning of the generation!
Alex Scott
Member
Hopefully real gamers gets to them first.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
So that means walmart cuts every game in store by 10 dollars at launch because there's no demand right?
You are reaching super hard here.
So... can we cancel Jim Ryan already?
- No Backwards Compatability - Not even asking for disc-based. Not asking for graphics/framerate enhancements or new features like trophies. Hell, I'd re-buy some games off PStore if they sorted out a PS1/3 emulator properly for PS5, just like the PS2 emulator they have for PS4 but don't make public. Their approach to this is totally backwards.
- No PSNow revamp - (all game downloadable), just a 'PS+ Instant Game Collection' featuring many games that PS4 owners bought over the past 7 years. Their approach to this totally lags behind the competition.
- Undercutting PS5 by putting new games on PC, where they don't sell due to being single player and get pirated.
- No 'quick migration to PS5' or 'believe in generations' by putting 2020/2021 system-seller games (SM:MM, HZD2) on PS4.
- Loss of PS-associated 2nd Party PS4 studios to multi-console and/or pc development, such as Quantic Dreams (Detroit), SuperMassive (Until Dawn) without re-upping their relationships, or at least securing replacement studios.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
There's a vetted report here claiming Series S was a hardware profile devs were told about / had to code to / switch the profile on their DevKits for before it was a physical devkit.
It's totally feasible that devs might have at one point become under the impression this wasn't a consumer device, or that the consumer device was cancelled.. but a profile they had to build for for xCloud.
Since.. we'll probably see xCloud running Series S for 1080p / 1440p users.
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MasterCornholio
Member
So Sony is setting the prices?
kyliethicc
Member
good point. Walmart does undercut most other retail. thats their whole model. low margin, volume plays
I was half joking when I said it initially. I'm sure the xbox game will sell decent units too.
But I'm not incorrect about general laws of supply and demand.
Walmart and Amazon do lower prices but its to drive demand up. They assume without those cuts, demand would be lower.
The supply side view of a sale is to increase otherwise lower demand.
Dolomite
Member
..............yes
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Dave_at_Home
Member
I want that FAT DISK edition
Bots to the LEFT
Edit: I'm also on Best Buy site. Maybe they'll go live with pre-orders too?
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Tchu-Espresso
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
Anyone with technical knowledge able to explain why DMC5 needs to reduce its pixel count by a factor of 4 in order to double its frame rate?
I'ma bit concerned about how that may bode for the 1440p60 RT dream.
I'ma bit concerned about how that may bode for the 1440p60 RT dream.
PatsFan7711
Neo Member
Welp, I'm fucked. I'm $60 short of being able to fully pay for it.
Would you like me to be punched Bo?Go try it then.
It's been a rough 24 hours for you, so no hard feelings.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
Amazon uses tools for real time tracking to match prices it's finds at other retailers and or online stores. In the USA:
Do you really think the PS4 and Xbox One versions are both going to see low demand? If anything the PS4 will outsell both versions.
Supply and demand is most definitely a thing but trying to draw conclusions based on a sale price of a product that hasn't launched yet thats shared with a digital marketplace also along with an online retailer that literally has hundreds of partners that they work with which can affect the price at any time isn't going to give you conclusive data in any capacity.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
True, but then got massively downgraded 2 weeks ago:
These recent official 4K screenshots don't look native 4K, meaning soft.
Cyberpunk 2077 GeForce RTX 30 Series Trailer: 4K, Ultra Settings, RTX ON!
See the year’s most anticipated game running on our new NVIDIA GeForce RTX 30 Series GPUs, with everything set to max and ray tracing and DLSS enabled.
www.nvidia.com
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
Amazon uses tools and bots to track prices in real time and adjusts on the fly. It likely found a cheaper price somewhere it found reputable.
kyliethicc
Member
Hey man I'm just saying, all retailers would always choose to sell the same number of units at a higher price. Every time.Amazon uses tools for real time tracking to match prices it's finds at other retailers and or online stores. In the USA:
Do you really think the PS4 and Xbox One versions are both going to see low demand? If anything the PS4 will outsell both versions.
Supply and demand is most definitely a thing but trying to draw conclusions based on a sale price of a product that hasn't launched yet thats shared with a digital marketplace also along with an online retailer that literally has hundreds of partners that they work with which can affect the price at any time isn't going to give you conclusive data in any capacity.
Only time they cut the price is to push sales units higher than would be otherwise. Not very complex.
MasterCornholio
Member
The PS4 version is 10$ less.
LED Guy?
Banned
True, but then got massively downgraded 2 weeks ago:
These recent official 4K screenshots don't look native 4K, meaning soft.
Cyberpunk 2077 GeForce RTX 30 Series Trailer: 4K, Ultra Settings, RTX ON!
See the year’s most anticipated game running on our new NVIDIA GeForce RTX 30 Series GPUs, with everything set to max and ray tracing and DLSS enabled.www.nvidia.com
Well, I can say that it is due to the game's inconsistency in graphics, not really a downgrade though, because that new Gif is from the latest build, we'll see when the game releases and compare them 1 to 1.
Neo Blaster
Member
PS3? I've seen PS2 level on those pictures!i mean its 120 FPS ! Just looks worse than PS3 tittle
I will stick with 30 FPS on everything like always. If it stable i don't mind.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
is there a Sony exec who is not a complete joke?
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
Then why is the ps4 and xbox one version $10 off in the states? They could easily just sell it for $60?
MasterCornholio
Member
They have the option to apply PlayStation delivery to the PS4 version.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Would you like me to be punched Bo?
It's been a rough 24 hours for you, so no hard feelings.
What are you smoking? I mean we're fighting here to secure a preorder for the best games console. Xbox probably made very few consoles, so be ready to preorder your box few days from now. If sold out, no worries, you're not missing anything.
Nikana
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Not understanding your point honestly. Spell it out for me please.
no_sea_comemierda
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MasterCornholio
Member
A free to upgrade the PS4 version to the PS5 version. Which is what CyberPunk is doing for example.
bitbydeath
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Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
Correct but what does that have to do with the Xbox price being lower and the demand?
kyliethicc
Member
Clearly they think it will not sell the number of units they want.
Large retail like Amazon and Walmart try to undercut each other or price match each other, (as you correctly said often is with tracker bots,) to chase volume. Not margins.
If Amazon is selling a game for a $10 discount, it could be as simple as them trying to sell more than Walmart will, etc.
These big chains basically operate with fixed volume targets, but will let price drop as necessary to achieve those volume goals.
If they could sell same units at a higher price, they would.
And also, I don't wanna argue on about this, so I'll just add I respect your opinion and we can always just disagree.
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Snowdonhoffen
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Interesting analysis from a Souls centric channel, never noticed the fog in the boss eyes, good damn details.
MasterCornholio
Member
Well if it isn't the demand then why are PS5 games more expensive than Xbox Series X/S games?
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Told you, this is the latest, 1st of September, the newest so far, on probably 3080/3090. You need a big screen, 4K, not a cellphone or 1080 monitor:
Looks soft as well.
True, even if everything is sold out I can still play most of the 'next gen' games on my PS4, so I'll be fine.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
They most certainly can sell them at a higher price but they choose not to.
You can't say they anticipate low demand then also say they have a volume they want to reach.
If they didn't expect the product to sell then why would they cut the price in order to move more units when the rest of the market isn't doing so? Cyberpunk 2077 is also on sale. Is that expected to do poor?
Bo_Hazem
Banned
That makes sense, indeed. You need to download upgrades on XSX. No internet = BC.
no_sea_comemierda
Banned
Walmart ps5 9pm EASTERN TODAY !! GOOD LUCK ALL!!
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