Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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MasterCornholio said:
Please say your joking.

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Seriously you know what happens here with those "numbers".

Edit: My sarcasm meter is broken in case your wondering.
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Not joking, even tho I am a clown.

Difference is indeed big. Have You seen Duslk Golem comment on How bad ps5 performs on re8 compared to Series X?

Lets balance things out, Sonygaf. Let the fud flows. We need series X pre orders to sold out in one minute too.
 
IbelieveInGenerations said:
Not joking, even tho I am a clown.

Difference is indeed big. Have You seen Duslk Golem comment on How bad ps5 performs on re8 compared to Series X?

Lets balance things out, Sonygaf. Let the fud flows. We need series X pre orders to sold out in one minute too.
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Also, RE8 looked pretty good from that last showcase. Just saying.
 
IbelieveInGenerations said:
But ps5 is rdna1 also, wich makes the comparison more valible.

Another important thing I'd like to point out is that ps5 gpu actually performs on average on 8-9tf as It cant keep the other clocks. Also, the chip burns
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Facts.
The extra hardware in the I/O is also useless because you could easily get the same results and performance with just software. And we all know the XSS will perform better than the PS5 due to its fixed clocks, it's math. Also the PS5 will be more expensive than the XSX because MS willing to undercut Sony no matter what... oh, wait...
 
Snowdonhoffen said:
Facts.
The extra hardware in the I/O is also useless because you could easily get the same results and performance with just software. And we all know the XSS will perform better than the PS5 due to its fixed clocks, it's math. Also the PS5 will be more expensive than the XSX because MS willing to undercut Sony no matter what... oh, wait...
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I realize we could get into an endless comversation because the amount of FUDs is too big.

Props for Xbox Phil team on twitter for being so creative and artixlculate. I envy them as a clown.
 
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Wraith Phantom said:
Games to movie success rate is pretty bad. Only one that has gone on a roll is what Resident Evil. There's loads of these films. General pubic really don't give a toss about gaming characters. Gaming is decent hobby it's popular in this world. Buts its not top tier social go to's. Music ,Movies ,TV shows, Sports, partying ,holidays ,Celebritys are well above gaming in worldwide social popularity. Regardless of gaming profits & money.

Game characters are just not popular to masses. They better have low projections cause the movie has straight to DVD vibes. Most PS exclusives wont make good films or TV shows. We all know. Uncharted is a TV show at best. There was a fan made video by the Nathan Fillion guy. That was decent watch. Uncharted is a TV show at best.



The last of us TV show is going to bomb hard if people consider that epic story. They really need to watch more movies. Ratchet & Clank already had a movie nobody talks about including Sony. Honestly out of the exclusives. Days gone is the only one I can see go into a great TV show. Its Sons of anarchyX Walking dead. God of war has a chance as a SpartacusX300 TV show. Ghost of Tsushima maybe as TV show probably better as an anime. Blood Borne is an anime easily.

Cinema & Hollywierd are too high a level of art for these games. TV shows is where PS games should sit at. Oh well lets just see some of these projects lose money. And PS go back to their lane.
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The only movie based on game that doesn't suck IMO is the first Silent Hill. The rest is ok at best, sadly.
 
Is there any way to estimate how many PS5s would have to be made to fulfill true preorder numbers?

If Sony made 10, 20 million day 1 would it still be sold out? They project to hit 10 million by late March and I know there will still be shortages.

I know most of the negative threads gracing the front page is warrior shit level because if it was true there wouldn't be so many people buying or looking right now..

The magic number to hit for an entire gen is 100 million but I feel like they could legit sell 20 million right now.
 
Gamerguy84 said:
Is there any way to estimate how many PS5s would have to be made to fulfill true preorder numbers?

If Sony made 10, 20 million day 1 would it still be sold out? They project to hit 10 million by late March and I know there will still be shortages.

I know most of the negative threads gracing the front page is warrior shit level because if it was true there wouldn't be so many people buying or looking right now..

The magic number to hit for an entire gen is 100 million but I feel like they could legit sell 20 million right now.
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It's pretty crazy that there's so much hype for the console. Even after all the FUD and being weaker than the XSX people are still crazy about it. Plus it appears that there's a ton of games that people are looking forward to. Not to mention Sony ended really strong with the PS4.
 
MasterCornholio said:
It's pretty crazy that there's so much hype for the console. Even after all the FUD and being weaker than the XSX people are still crazy about it. Plus it appears that there's a ton of games that people are looking forward to. Not to mention Sony ended really strong with the PS4.
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I've always thought PlayStation has a lot more fans/fanboys than Xbox, but the Xbox fans/fanboys are waay louder.
 
MasterCornholio said:
It's pretty crazy that there's so much hype for the console. Even after all the FUD and being weaker than the XSX people are still crazy about it. Plus it appears that there's a ton of games that people are looking forward to. Not to mention Sony ended really strong with the PS4.
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Yep. It got a bit crazy with PS4. I can tell PS mania has only gotten worse.

It seems like the anti PS crowd is fighting as hard to spread bad things as much as people want to buy the PS5. Ive personally not witnessed this.
 
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sircaw said:
Yer i don't think anyone has ever disputed that the xbox will be more powerful.

But like all things power means nothing without talent. We have all seen the last of us 2, god of war and ghost of Tsushima.

and more recently we have seen Demon souls, if that's the less powerful machine, than haha its fucking fine with me.

I know arse hats like Dealer and Eastwood love to bring out the 12 tflop number and its understandable, they don't have much to hold onto besides that.

People should be concentrating on games, not numbers,

Games matter, and that's it, buy your console on what you deem is the best for you to play on.
the rest is bullshit
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Snowdonhoffen said:
I've always thought PlayStation has a lot more fans/fanboys than Xbox, but the Xbox fans/fanboys are waay louder.
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All I'm going to say about that is that the FUD this time around has been a bit ridiculous especially the FUD that comes from some of those twitter personalities.

With that said I'm happy that this is almost over. Once we get our hands on these systems there's going to be more gaming and less warring. However I do expect battles to be fought here.
 
MasterCornholio said:
All I'm going to say about that is that the FUD this time around has been a bit ridiculous especially the FUD that comes from some of those twitter personalities.

With that said I'm happy that this is almost over. Once we get our hands on these systems there's going to be more gaming and less warring. However I do expect battles to be fought here.
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Roger that. We still have a good bit to speculate on though, which is odd for this late in. We haven't even SEEN UI's. We haven't seen the systems actually work. How fast they turn on, how fast they load games, etc. Of course MS did release that resume game video, which was cool, but we need more of that. How exactly does BC work...will there be any BC enhancements? We know Xbox does this, but any new enhancements or features? Will PS5 do anything similar perhaps with Machine Learning?

Lots we still don't know and we've started handing over our money already! lol

Also...I'm glad I'm getting mine delivered...because early November, especially after today? Might not want to be going out ANYWHERE. Hell...might not get deliveries either. The end of this year was always going to be wild but we really didn't need this extra drama.
 
MasterCornholio said:
All I'm going to say about that is that the FUD this time around has been a bit ridiculous especially the FUD that comes from some of those twitter personalities.

With that said I'm happy that this is almost over. Once we get our hands on these systems there's going to be more gaming and less warring. However I do expect battles to be fought here.
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True. On multi-platformer titles Series X will have the edge in overall resolution and possibly a fancier effect here and there. Although it's gonna take Digital Foundry to point that out. Xbox fanboys will bust their blue-balled nuts over these oh-so-small disparities. PlayStation fanboys will prepare for seppuku. The world turns. Meanwhile everyone else will be enjoying their new systems.
 
Dave_at_Home said:
True. On multi-platformer titles Series X will have the edge in overall resolution and possibly a fancier effect here and there. Although it's gonna take Digital Foundry to point that out. Xbox fanboys will bust their blue-balled nuts over these oh-so-small disparities. PlayStation fanboys will prepare for seppuku. The world turns. Meanwhile everyone else will be enjoying their new systems.
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Then there's the advantages that the PS5 will have with multiplats that will drive both sides crazy. Pretty much expecting those Digital Foundry comparisons to be chaotic.
 
Dave_at_Home said:
True. On multi-platformer titles Series X will have the edge in overall resolution and possibly a fancier effect here and there. Although it's gonna take Digital Foundry to point that out. Xbox fanboys will bust their blue-balled nuts over these oh-so-small disparities. PlayStation fanboys will prepare for seppuku. The world turns. Meanwhile everyone else will be enjoying their new systems.
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And that's the truth right there. You know...I'm getting a PS5...had a PS4. Had friends who had Xbox One. Yeah, DF videos showed the PS4 versions were "better." Higher resolution, etc. But you know what? Really could tell that with just your eyes. None of my friends with Xbox Ones were depressed about the games they were playing.

Is going to be the same thing this time except even less of a difference and I fully expect that in some cases the "advantage" of one box over the other will be flipped! That means it's more about the ecosystems and the games. Not really a bad problem to have!
 
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MasterCornholio said:
Then there's the advantages that the PS5 will have with multiplats that will drive both sides crazy. Pretty much expecting those Digital Foundry comparisons to be chaotic.
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The first Call of Duty comparison will be nuts. I will be really surprised if the PS5 comes out on top over Series X. Hopefully it will show the fanboys that the difference is much smaller than they think.
 
Dave_at_Home said:
The first Call of Duty comparison will be nuts. I will be really surprised if the PS5 comes out on top over Series X. Hopefully it will show the fanboys that the difference is much smaller than they think.
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The PS5 probably won't come ahead. But it will probably win almost any comparison with the I/O. And it's going to be that way for the rest.of the gen.

I will say that we are getting some pretty nice looking games from Sony early on.
 
Sinthor said:
Roger that. We still have a good bit to speculate on though, which is odd for this late in. We haven't even SEEN UI's. We haven't seen the systems actually work. How fast they turn on, how fast they load games, etc. Of course MS did release that resume game video, which was cool, but we need more of that. How exactly does BC work...will there be any BC enhancements? We know Xbox does this, but any new enhancements or features? Will PS5 do anything similar perhaps with Machine Learning?

Lots we still don't know and we've started handing over our money already! lol

Also...I'm glad I'm getting mine delivered...because early November, especially after today? Might not want to be going out ANYWHERE. Hell...might not get deliveries either. The end of this year was always going to be wild but we really didn't need this extra drama.
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Other than rdna2.5 I don't think we have much to speculate.

We know the UI will allow us to instantly join the a game even a specific mode/match (leaked) there is no doubt about how fast the game will load.Ignore the fud

we know ps+ still stays. Psnow is still psnow.

machine learning is just a buzzword. single precision acceleration can only get you somewhere. But games don't need much machine learning power in the next decade. Heck, rtx30 card didn't even increase the tensor core. a whole bunch of ML inference is usually better handled by CPU anyway.

We know BC is just plain simple hardware based BC. it's Sony's tradition mostly due to their kit.

and finally we know everything about dual sense already. VR2 won't be announced this year. So ya, not much else to speculate. Other than

1. Rdna 2.5 features
2. Exotic cooling solution
 
Dodkrake said:
So, you're under the impression that a software based solution can be improved over time but an hardware based one can't?

Got some news for you: Hardware based solutions require software to run. They can also be updated, and their integration with the base system, assuming the engineers are not retarded, will always be better than SW based solutions.

There's no closing the gap. The PS5 has an IO that's more than twice as fast, and it will stay more than twice as fast.
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Exactly! We heard the same thing with the xbox one, the box is just the starting point, the cloud will double its power! If software makes tech preform better than hardware that is more than twice as powerful, why didn't we see it last generation with equivalent hardware? Sony can improve their software as well...but MS cannot emulate hardware that doesn't exist in their machine.
 
kyliethicc said:
PS5 UI patent image could show home screen (drawing on it is mine)

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This looks like a game's pause screen where you can jump in between different modes (campaign, multiplayer, co-op, etc) straight from pause, and the bottom row of icons seem to be your currently "open" games, which you can jump to as well without closing.

Those bottom icons seem pretty familiar as well... TLOU, Gravity Rush 2, SFV, horizon, The last Guardian.. the 2 before TLG i cant recognize, but chances are they're real games as well
 
HAL-01 said:
This looks like a game's pause screen where you can jump in between different modes (campaign, multiplayer, co-op, etc) straight from pause, and the bottom row of icons seem to be your currently "open" games, which you can jump to as well without closing.

Those bottom icons seem pretty familiar as well... TLOU, Gravity Rush 2, SFV, horizon, The last Guardian.. the 2 before TLG i cant recognize, but chances are they're real games as well
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Well the patent abstract literally says its the home screen of the console. Not a pause screen.

It will be very direct..

Home screen -> Game -> Resume

...and thats its. Its what Cerny described to Wired a while ago.
 
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MasterCornholio said:
It's pretty crazy that there's so much hype for the console. Even after all the FUD and being weaker than the XSX people are still crazy about it. Plus it appears that there's a ton of games that people are looking forward to. Not to mention Sony ended really strong with the PS4.
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Is it really that crazy, considering Sony not only showed games, but gameplay captured on the console and some next gen graphics/performance that made the point about getting the console or not?

MS showed old enhanced games, barely any gameplay on demos 'representative of expected XSX graphics' running on PC, CGs and, of course, Craig.
 
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