You just want to portray me as naive.
Technology does not play a role here, unlike logical thinking.
And.... regardless of the example I gave, XSX most likely has noticeably more "ray tracing power"
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Technology does not play a role here, unlike logical thinking.
And.... regardless of the example I gave, XSX most likely has noticeably more "ray tracing power"
SportsFan581
Member
Do tell.
Realistically, of course PS will sell more. Early sales are based on the hardcore that adopt new tech quickly, it's natural that the console with 110m users would have a larger number of these buyers than the console with 45m users. But, if burning through stock is what matters to you, Xbox should just release 10 units total WW for pre-orders (they'd win the race for sure).
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I haven't read the topic for about a week. And stop indirectly blaming me for something ... it looks pretty paranoid. It's still a free topic isn't it?
geordiemp
Member
No i portray you as intellectually challenged troll, which can be seen by everyone on this forum.
You realise everyone is laughing AT YOU.
Are you not embarrassed ? Come back when you got some facts or gameplay to discuss your powa narrative, we dont see any ?
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
He comes in and only likes everything Great White says and starts this type of thing as well.
Alt troll account.
geordiemp
Member
He could be better at it, posts ps5 is 5.5 TF and starts clock concern.....LOL
saintjules
Member
Randy Randerson
Member
Burden of proof is on you. How do you know the claim is reliable? What games show the CPU/GPU downclocking so much? Smartshift does not need profiles
xHunter
Member
Nothing paranoid with seeing an obvious troll account and calling it out.
MasterCornholio
Member
I will be grateful to you. But I'll probably come back to the comparison DMC5SE
That wouldn't be a good comparison because ray tracing is coming in a patch for the XSX version. I'd say they Call of Duty would be better in my opinion.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
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Microsoft Reportedly Selling Xbox Series X at a Loss, Series S at Even Bigger Loss
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Microsoft Reportedly Selling Xbox Series X at a Loss, Series S at Even Bigger Loss
Microsoft Reportedly Selling Xbox Series X at a Loss, Series S at Even Bigger Loss
When the Xbox Series X and the Xbox Series S release later this year, Microsoft will apparently take a decent loss on both consoles, with the latter being more significant. The rumor comes from analysts Benji-Sales and Jeff Grubb on Twitter, and their exchange can be viewed below. Given the fact...
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xacto
Member
Well, another case of "say goodbye" while he's still around.
xacto
Member
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Microsoft Reportedly Selling Xbox Series X at a Loss, Series S at Even Bigger Loss
Microsoft Reportedly Selling Xbox Series X at a Loss, Series S at Even Bigger Loss
When the Xbox Series X and the Xbox Series S release later this year, Microsoft will apparently take a decent loss on both consoles, with the latter being more significant. The rumor comes from analysts Benji-Sales and Jeff Grubb on Twitter, and their exchange can be viewed below. Given the fact...
Color me surprised.
TheGreatWhiteShark
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Microsoft Reportedly Selling Xbox Series X at a Loss, Series S at Even Bigger Loss
Microsoft Reportedly Selling Xbox Series X at a Loss, Series S at Even Bigger Loss
When the Xbox Series X and the Xbox Series S release later this year, Microsoft will apparently take a decent loss on both consoles, with the latter being more significant. The rumor comes from analysts Benji-Sales and Jeff Grubb on Twitter, and their exchange can be viewed below. Given the fact...
I've speculated that the loss on S right now probably is bigger than the loss on X
Mr Moose
Member
What? A 8.75TF GPU?
TheGreatWhiteShark
Member
I'm getting both day 1.
I will be playing COD, Valhalla, CyberPunk on X because better,
I am not interested on Demon's remake, and I sure as hell ain't forking 80e to sony for Destruction or Miles.
I ain't reviewing or selling shit also.
So, according to your way of thinking, I'm getting the ps5 just to have one?
lepermessiah
Member
Ima 20 percent slower at feeding muh little CU monsters and they do be a hungry bunch, pitty I can't scrub my sweaty cache pits to increase efficiency, seems I can't dream of reaching 12 bottles of vodka tonight boys; I've oversold myself.
Garani
Member
And by the way, you can actually get a 1 year card for PS Now at €30/35, which is like less than €3 per month. Honestly, the amount of STUFF you have access to on PS Now is fenomenal, and you can actually download the PS4 games on the console, so they can run natively.
My son is actually re-playing the PS3 versions of Ratchet and Clank games on the PS4 via PSNow streaming instead of turning them on our PS3 that we keep for old games.
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zaitsu
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Maximum is 3%
TheGreatWhiteShark
Member
I dont know how this pans out in cpu or gpu numbers. its just clockspeeds based on cerny's talk, and its a "worst case game" scenario per cerny, for sustained performance.
I already have commented since the day they were twitted that the numbers displayed on that tweet seem to me completely out of whack.
As I said, before you decorate your Christmas tree there will be no more secrets.
saintjules
Member
Was wondering who this was.
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Et3rn1ty
Neo Member
Probably yes because from your sayings why do you need to obtain a ps5 from day one?any sane human beeing would choose his favotite platform to play the games he like or the exlusives he want and make comoromises to other aspects or vice versa....so whats your point exactly?
lepermessiah
Member
How many people does it take to change a FUD bulb - none, you don't change any bulb you just shit in one hand and wish in the other; watch which one fills up first and then throw it at the wall to see what sticks.
TheGreatWhiteShark
Member
Mr Moose
Member
Didn't he say 2-3% or something drop? It should be always close to/above 10-10.28TF, never 8.75TF.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
What on earth are you going on about? You could start an argument in a phone box.
I've had enough of your silly posts.
xacto
Member
Or it could all depend on what recreational drugs you used... altering the feelings, perceptions... maybe FUD isn't really FUD until you kicked the habit, you know
Garani
Member
Honestly, how the heck do you know they will perform better on XSX? As far as I know there is no study out there on the output for those games on different consoles/PC, not yet at least.
xacto
Member
Wait, why would you believe someone like Cerny, right?! When we will always have Gavin Stevens, the developer of the 120FPS fish game (exclusive to Xbox), and "our Discord dev?"
jasondefaoite
Member
This has already been covered.
Not marketing but an IEC spec.
1 TB = 1000 GB = 1.000.000 MB = 1.000.000.000 KB
1 TiB = 1024 GiB = 1.048.576 MiB = 1.073.741.824 KiB
HDD/SSD vendors use TB/GB to define the size of their drives. Windows for example uses TiB/GiB, which is why a 1TB drive only shows 931GB within the windows file system. It displays as GB but is actually GiB.
So, the 1TB drive in an XBox One /S/X is 931GiB which is the size reflected in the OS. Same with the PS4.
Unless Microsoft are changing this in the Series S|X, the size reflected will be 931GiB for the X and 466GiB for the S.
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I have never understood the mentality of shitting on another product to make you feel good about the product you buy.
This World is fucked up enough especially this year why try to piss people off over a plastic box?
I dont get it
This World is fucked up enough especially this year why try to piss people off over a plastic box?
I dont get it
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Wandering Leopard
Member
(I suppose I'll bite too)
You're too fixated on performance numbers, which is fine when we didn't see or know anything about the games.
Point one - in terms of cross gen games, both systems seem to be performing similarly eg Dirt 5
Point two - Demon's Souls is currently the most visually impressive next gen title, and unless I'm missing something, nothing on Series X (shown so far) matches or exceeds it. And no, in-engine trailers, target renders etc... don't count.
Just how important are these numbers when we start seeing more and more next gen games in action.
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xacto
Member
You don't get it because you're an adult, both physically AND mentally. Consider yourself lucky.
MasterCornholio
Member
Unless there's a massive difference the market tends to forget about the numbers. Games seem to be the focus for most people.
realcool
Member
Definitely not the brightest bulbs in the box.
ThaMonkeyClaw
Member
Yeah, you can definitely do that to, but seeing that they gave you that A to C cable in the box that leads me to believe they included that USB-C port for another reason and not for the controller.
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
This tweet has been posted on reddit. While the tweet has been deleted now, would be interesting to know what he was refering to.
H:FW and God of War PS3 ports
MasterCornholio
Member
This tweet has been posted on reddit. While the tweet has been deleted now, would be interesting to know what he was refering to.
Probably a PlayStation Blog post. I'm guessing either UI or Teardown.
TheGreatWhiteShark
Member
Yes.
Here is what else he said just before that:
he says that 3.0CPU and 2.0GPU seemed unobtainable with fixed clocks
he also says the 2.2 cap is at the point above which the chip logic fails
you have to keep in mind that consumption has a cube relation to clockspeeds
and thermals relation to consumption is yet unknown for ps5,
but cerny also did say that cpu/gpu are clocked in a way that produce equal thermals
watch the above video, 3 weeks after cerny's presentation, and after some thinking and talking around, with cerny included.
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Moridianae
Member
That's not big enough news to Tweetdelete, in my opinion. Maybe you're right,, but I feel it is something far more substantial to take the wind out of Microsoft's preorder launch.
A simple UI showing alone won't do that if you ask me. Gotta be something more major than that.
Mr Moose
Member
This tweet has been posted on reddit. While the tweet has been deleted now, would be interesting to know what he was refering to.
Did anyone here catch the tweet to confirm it was legit? I haven't been on Twitter much today
I wonder what it could be *strokes invisible beard*
MasterCornholio
Member
Unless Sony is doing something crazy with the UI it could be big news.
Edit: If it's a big game announcement I'm expecting something like that at an actual event.
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THE:MILKMAN
Member
Did anyone here catch the tweet to confirm it was legit? I haven't been on Twitter much today
I wonder what it could be *strokes invisible beard*
Only the poster on Reddit so far? I'm skeptical as if I have my time zones right it would mean Geoff Tweeting before 6am on a Sunday?
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Did anyone here catch the tweet to confirm it was legit? I haven't been on Twitter much today
I wonder what it could be *strokes invisible beard*
I didnt catch it I have been doing a little work online with a couple of charities for the last 2 hours or so and have Twitter running on my ipad the whole time and I didnt see anything from him.
Not saying it didnt happen just think something like that would have blown up.
YeulEmeralda
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Microsoft Reportedly Selling Xbox Series X at a Loss, Series S at Even Bigger Loss
Microsoft Reportedly Selling Xbox Series X at a Loss, Series S at Even Bigger Loss
When the Xbox Series X and the Xbox Series S release later this year, Microsoft will apparently take a decent loss on both consoles, with the latter being more significant. The rumor comes from analysts Benji-Sales and Jeff Grubb on Twitter, and their exchange can be viewed below. Given the fact...
Hasn't MS been selling Xbox One at a loss all throughout last gen? They were on a permanent fire sale.
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