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[TheContact]

Guess for them it was about the money. I remember Tyler passing up a big offer for neogaf back in the day

 

[ethomaz]

If you are all for options then why be against an option to remove spiders? Its an option, its existence doesn't negatively impact players in any way.

Because it is not for accessibility.

Why put limitation to game design if it is not an accessibility issue? I mean why devs should remove spiders, frogs, bats, etc from games?

For example why remove spiders from REmake when it added a new level of gameplay idealized by the devs? Which other animal can put in the place that has the same gameplay features than a spider?

Most spiders boss are awesome in gameplay terms… which other animal can you replace it maintaining the same gameplay characteristics?

Same for frogs… I can’t see games without the gameplay characteristics found in frogs.

I want to believe developers choose these animals due it peculiarities so they can’t be replaced.

 

[Woopah]

Because it is not for accessibility.

Why put limitation to game design if it is not an accessibility issue?

I mean why devs should remove spiders, frogs, bats, etc from games?

What is the limitation? What limits does Grounded have by offering this option?

 

[ethomaz]

What is the limitation? What limits does Grounded have by offering this option?

Never played Grounded but most games I played spiders add a new level of gameplay to the field as random enemy or boss.

Why limit that gameplay experience idealized by the game creator?

You having fear of spiders doesn’t make it an accessibility issue.

There are way more people with fear of high places than spiders but nobody are asking to games have a floor only option.

If we will take that mind in games then devs should stop to make games at all because there are fear to everything… no gun, no jump, no rivers, no high places, no caves, no animals, etc etc etc.

NO GAMES!

 

[Deleted member 1159]

What is the limitation? What limits does Grounded have by offering this option?

At some point you just have to accept a game's subject matter isn't for you. Adding colorblind settings or controller options is trivial enough and for common enough issues that it makes total sense to do so. Completely revamping enemy designs and such because some people don't like icky things is getting more burdensome for a more niche issue. You can't expect every developer to cater to every set of phobias or esoteric issues. Nintendo's not going to eliminate warp pipes from Mario because some people have a fear of drains.

 

[SZips]

Uh oh, if they spot you outside of the asylum you are gone!

I've been here for a couple of days now. I fully expect that they'll find some reason to ban me regardless of my posting here or not. Of course I don't doubt that the reason will also include something along the lines of "off-site drama" and some other equally stupid crap. At least I'll have gone out swinging.

 

[SkylineRKR]

What the fuck, wheres the hot springs scene? I *think* Im close to the end and never saw it, maybe I skipped it, fuuuck. Does it show Kisara's behind even better?

And yeah, these scenes are a standard in most JRPGs (or beach scenes like in Persona), if people get triggered by that... lmao.

Hot Springs unlocks after beating all the spirits. The rest are optional after the required one in the volcano. You can always go back to it, the side story unlocks in the winter city.

 

[Loope]

LOL, yeah. ERA is real inclusive. Just got reinstated there after a month long ban (first ever "offense" too, after years of memebership, no warnings or anything, I'm not the type to troll, or try to offend anyone), because I made the mistake of making a single post saying I generally wasn't offended by the "hot springs" scene in Tales of Arise (where the protag accidentally exposures himself to female party members, when he "forgets his towel upon leaving the spring", in a scene meant to be comedic), along with most of them in general in JRPG.

The context of my post even talked about how although I wasn't personally offended, I found these scenes generally infantile and mostly unfunny, and was just trying to contribute to the supposed "discourse" on the subject that these boards are supposed to be about, but you know, I guess because my reaction wasn't utter outrage and condemnation of the game, for one mildly comical minute of a 50 hour game, you get a no warning one month ban.

Alas, yeah, i frequent that place, as I frequent this place, because I love gaming and discourse around it, and these are the best communities to keep up with things, but its clear there what happens if you don't fit the (very specific) narrative that they want to promote there.

All the more ironic that they are looking to cash in with this deal.. I'm sure everyone at MOBA network must be an absolute saint, or ERA would have never taken their money, right?

You and me both, i just post there from time to time, and somethings just didn't sit right with me. I joined that because when it was created it was easy to join, i thought it was going to be the new Neogaf because i never managed to join neogaf. After a 2nd ban because of a stupid shit, i just joined neogaf and actually talk about everything. I mainly go there for the F1 and little else. My username there is different, it's Ooze27.

 

[Haint]

Im no expert, but here is some info.

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Reads like another sex and gender type distinction where they've historically been used interchangeably, but have been redefined and recategorized to appeal to modern sensitivities. Only much more confusing, as while according to this description transvestite excludes drag queens or sexual fetishized "traps", it DOES include cross dressers provided they're not doing it as a stage character or fetish, and presumably may or may not consider themselves to be transgender.

 

[TheInfamousKira]

You and me both, i just post there from time to time, and somethings just didn't sit right with me. I joined that because when it was created it was easy to join, i thought it was going to be the new Neogaf because i never managed to join neogaf. After a 2nd ban because of a stupid shit, i just joined neogaf and actually talk about everything. I mainly go there for the F1 and little else. My username there is different, it was Ooze27.

FTFY

 

[FunkMiller]

Fruit bats are cute because probably a dog f**** a bat and that thing came out. Now post pics of vampire bats.

Fruit bats ain’t so fucking cute when you live in an apartment next to the fig tree where they are roosting.

Noisy, shitting little cunts.

 

[Swift_Star]

If you are all for options then why be against an option to remove spiders? Its an option, its existence doesn't negatively impact players in any way.

So if I understand you correctly, your issue isn't with developers making things easier for arachnophobes but with arachnophobes for simply existing in the first place?

O think people should treat their phobia, actually. It's the healthy and right thing to do.

 

[Woopah]

Never played Grounded but most games I played spiders add a new level of gameplay to the field as random enemy or boss.

Why limit that gameplay experience idealized by the game creator?

You having fear of spiders doesn’t make it an accessibility issue.

Grounded has spiders. It also has the option to make the enemies not look like spiders. No one is limited and everybody wins.

At some point you just have to accept a game's subject matter isn't for you. Adding colorblind settings or controller options is trivial enough and for common enough issues that it makes total sense to do so. Completely revamping enemy designs and such because some people don't like icky things is getting more burdensome for a more niche issue. You can't expect every developer to cater to every set of phobias or esoteric issues. Nintendo's not going to eliminate warp pipes from Mario because some people have a fear of drains.

I'm not expecting every developer to do it. I just think that the fact Obsidian did go to the effort of doing it is a positive thing, since it means more people can enjoy the game.

 

[ethomaz]

At some point you just have to accept a game's subject matter isn't for you. Adding colorblind settings or controller options is trivial enough and for common enough issues that it makes total sense to do so. Completely revamping enemy designs and such because some people don't like icky things is getting more burdensome for a more niche issue. You can't expect every developer to cater to every set of phobias or esoteric issues. Nintendo's not going to eliminate warp pipes from Mario because some people have a fear of drains.

Exactly.
If dev start to cater every phobia in the world then we will not have games anymore… well maybe Pong and Tetris but even these I’m sure there is some phobia related.

 

[ethomaz]

Grounded has spiders. It also has the option to make the enemies not look like spiders. No one is limited and everybody wins.

So basically killed the gameplay for that enemy? How can I dodge it random legs attack?

IMO that is really bad developer take.

 

[Star-Lord]

Some people drink the tribalism Kool aid too much. Just because Era is full of idiots doesn't mean GAF is by definition mandated to be the polar opposite of all of their views and opinions. Using slurs is garbage behavior. Period.

I wasn’t trying to condone or excuse his behaviour. Saying anything remotely transphobic is a no-go in my book. I was just simply saying how out of character it was for him.

 

[jufonuk]

any updates?

 

[ManaByte]

Can we stop arguing about slurs and go back to laughing at the insane asylum burning down?

 

[DGrayson]

any updates?

Can we stop arguing about slurs and go back to laughing at the insane asylum burning down?

It seems to have slowed down a bit over there. Reality is starting to set in. It seems that none of the mods actually know what is going on beyond what the old owner told them/posted on the site. It also seems that none of the mod team has been contacted yet by the new owners because they all seem clueless. Users are combing through forums owned by the new owners looking for any clue as to what could happen.

Probably it will continue like this for a couple months while the new owners decide on a gameplan (or implement the gameplan). Eventually I guess mods will get replaced or will be asked to do things they dont agree with and there should be another nice blow up to view from afar.

 

[Woopah]

So basically killed the gameplay for that enemy? How can I dodge it random legs attack?

IMO that is really bad developer take.

Then don't use the feature. Doesn't mean it shouldn't exist for those that want it.

 

[Raven117]

Wait a minute, there are people that are advocating that creators take "phobias" out of game to cater to them?

What the ever-living fuck is wrong with some people?

 

[Papacheeks]

I wasn’t trying to condone or excuse his behaviour. Saying anything remotely transphobic is a no-go in my book. I was just simply saying how out of character it was for him.

His responses recently have been kind of angry towards trans. He was in the Netflix thread about Chappell special. Calling the person fired a “

Spoiler: Bad words

fat trans retard”.

 

[Star-Lord]

Well, I stand corrected. What a knob.

 

[Aenima]

Grounded has spiders. It also has the option to make the enemies not look like spiders. No one is limited and everybody wins.


I'm not expecting every developer to do it. I just think that the fact Obsidian did go to the effort of doing it is a positive thing, since it means more people can enjoy the game.

Yeah, the devs did the right thing. Those floating balls with eyes are trully nighmare fuel. Im glad thers an option to play with spiders instead.

 

[Huevos de Oro]

A floating turd!

 

[laynelane]

noitsthechildrenwhoarewrong.png

"The inability for a contingent of people not to come at us while dialed in on 11 is the problem."

It's rare to see someone with such a complete lack of self-awareness who projects so much. I honestly don't know how anyone over there can take her seriously.

 

[Yoboman]

Welcome back to the Reefugees

Enjoy rediscovering your actual opinion and personality

 

[Astral Dog]

I can see the MOBA acquisition being good news for resetERA interest: more advertisment, throw away the trash mods, healthy growth, less toxic community under their corporate overlords.

Of course thats in the case they don't ruin it learn to behave themselves and take the opportunity to grow.

 

[ethomaz]

Then don't use the feature. Doesn't mean it shouldn't exist for those that want it.

So more time and money used for something not game related in a age of delays with devs already not having time to delivery what they want… ok.

 

[Yoboman]

This guy thinks he's a war veteran for running a forum into the ground

 

[jufonuk]

It seems to have slowed down a bit over there. Reality is starting to set in. It seems that none of the mods actually know what is going on beyond what the old owner told them/posted on the site. It also seems that none of the mod team has been contacted yet by the new owners because they all seem clueless. Users are combing through forums owned by the new owners looking for any clue as to what could happen.

Probably it will continue like this for a couple months while the new owners decide on a gameplan (or implement the gameplan). Eventually I guess mods will get replaced or will be asked to do things they dont agree with and there should be another nice blow up to view from afar.

 

[jufonuk]

This guy thinks he's a war veteran for running a forum into the ground

 

[ethomaz]

Wait a minute, there are people that are advocating that creators take "phobias" out of game to cater to them?

What the ever-living fuck is wrong with some people?

Like I said there is a point where devs won’t create games anymore because everything is a phobia.

Imagine what level we are reaching lol

 

[The_Mike]

Hahaha, NoTiCe Me PlEaSe.

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why the narccisist nep runs era like she does.
On every other place she's laughed at, so she's making Era her safe space where she can throw all the hatred out she believes he gets undeserved, while the true answer is she's a bitch.

 

[DeepEnigma]

This guy thinks he's a war veteran for running a forum into the ground

 

[Raven117]

Like I said there is a point where devs won’t create games anymore because everything is a phobia.

Imagine what level we are reaching lol

I...I really can't respond to this its so freakin stupid. How in the world can any artist/creator anywhere in any medium account for this?

Mother of gawd, the arrogance. Its breathtaking.

I, for one, am glad the world I live in has things and products I don't like. Hell, some of the biggest joys in life are figuring out what you like, what you don't like, what you are scared of, what you can overcome, what you can't....Its messy, often brutal, often beautiful, and is freakin awesome.

They are talking about spiders, but I'm talking about living man....they aren't doing it.

 

[Guilty_AI]

So if I understand you correctly, your issue isn't with developers making things easier for arachnophobes but with arachnophobes for simply existing in the first place?

No, my issue is a person so fragile to the point they refuse to face a dumb phobia even in a make believe situation. Doesn't matter if its Arachnophobia, Ophidiophobia, Cynophobia, Acrophobia or whatever.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

Edit: Derp I got my people mixed up

 

[RoadHazard]

He always struck me as one of the decent few on here. I can’t imagine why he suddenly came out with that.

Dude, there are a lot of decent people on here.

I mean, there's more than "a few" decent people on here.

Ok, it's a few.

 

[captainraincoat]

Ok found a good link to Trump

The chairmain of the board for M.O.B.A is a guy named Fredrik Burvall
This guy used to be the CEO for a company called Cherry....who are a gambling and slot machine type company based in sweden...this company happens to have links to Trump Casino

Thats just one search...

 

[bushwookie]

To be fair I don't think resetera is a fair assessment of the left. Their average user is so far left that it makes an average leftist look like they are from the right.

I hear those users continually interfere in Japanese fishing lanes.

 

[KAL2006]

Ok found a good link to Trump

The chairmain of the board for M.O.B.A is a guy named Fredrik Burvall
This guy used to be the CEO for a company called Cherry....who are a gambling and slot machine type company based in sweden...this company happens to have links to Trump Casino

Thats just one search...

Nice, now we need a Dave Chapelle connection and we good to go

 

[Moon Grape Donut]

Trump!? Thats a YIKES!

 

[Dick Jones]

This guy thinks he's a war veteran for running a forum into the ground

The only thing Hecht has in common with army vets is their crippling alcoholism. One is due to seeing and dealing with inhumane shit and the other is having to work with Nepenthe. Actually on second thoughts maybe I judged Hecht too harsh.

 

[Shake Your Rump]

“ community brands “

There you have it. This is how they see their website and users. Just a brand to be bought and sold.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Wait a minute, there are people that are advocating that creators take "phobias" out of game to cater to them?

What the ever-living fuck is wrong with some people?

Weakness. Entitlement.

 

[Saint Boot]

Yeah, the devs did the right thing. Those floating balls with eyes are trully nighmare fuel. Im glad thers an option to play with spiders instead.

#Slimelivesmatter

 

[bender]

Guess for them it was about the money. I remember Tyler passing up a big offer for neogaf back in the day

I offered EviLore tree fiddy.

 

[Dick Jones]

I offered EviLore tree fiddy.

 

[Star-Lord]

Dude, there are a lot of decent people on here.

I mean, there's more than "a few" decent people on here.

Ok, it's a few.

There’s the peeps in MetaGAF and that’s about it, bar one or two more outsiders. I’m not saying the others aren’t decent, but I’ve not had much interaction with them. The people I think are decent know who they are.