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[Greg]

They starting a new prayer segment or something?

Tim and Ray

#blessed

 

[Mrbob]

Poor Texans age. Their dreams will just be crushed again by another Belicheat reject.

 

[BaltimoreLarry]

People are quick to judge Andy, myself included.

HOWEVER, there are some things to consider about those 4 interceptions.

The first two happened on the first two drives. He recovered well.

The third was a receiver error.

The Fourth was a shitty playcall, but he put the ball exactly where it was supposed to go. Just a beastly play by the talented Baltimore Corner. It happens: The QB and Receiver do everything right, and the defense just does something exceptional.

In fact, they did a study on Dalton's interceptions, and they found a good number of them were due to AJ Green mistakes. It was posted on Bengals Reddit, I'll try to find it.

He's not the best in the AFCN, but he can win. He's never not made the playoffs in Cincy, so I have faith.

You don't think at this point in his career that Dalton might not be better than a declining Big Ben and Flacco? I don't like pointing to numbers, but....his numbers.

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

You are mostly right until the last part. The Ravens made the only possible decision, but it wasn't the right one. The right one, the smart one, is to say, we do not want to commit top money to a mid level QB. But they had no choice; after performing like he did in the playoffs and winning the Superbowl, they couldn't let him walk. It was still the wrong decision. I just feel they thought he was better than he was. Even in the offseason, I floated the idea that maybe Joe had "tipped" in the playoffs, and that was much of what we were going to see going forward, and he could possibly justify his contract. Joe repayed us with his worst performance of his career. Our line was bad this year, as was our running game, but I've watched all the games, and Joe looked worse. He looked like someone trying to justify his contract, and that led to a career high in INTs and a career low in completion percentage and QB rating.

But yes, the foundation is there for the Ravens to succeed, and I still believe our defense this year is better than last year, minus the superhuman (insert deer antler joke) abilities bestowed on them by Ray Lewis' last ride magic. We were weak on offense in terms of talent all year, but I'm going to say Torrey Smith and Marlon Brown are probably a better 1-2 than Derrick Mason and Mark Clayton were.

I still think it was the wrong decision to sign him long term, even if it was the only possible situation. People said he held the Ravens hostage, and he really did.

As much as I hate to say it, I think you're too hard on Flacco. Yeah he's a mid level QB, but the Ravens have put the pieces in place for him to win once, and he has the tools to make it happen again.

 

[MechDX]

Poor Texans age. Their dreams will just be crushed again by another Belicheat reject.

You are cursed and you lost to Schaub!

Oh don't forget 0-3 LIFETIME vs the Texans biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitch!

 

[789shadow]

We making playoff picks?

Colts over Chiefs
Eagles over Saints
Bengals over Chargers
49ers over Packers

Seahawks over 49ers
Patriots over Colts
Panthers over Eagles
Broncos over Bengals

Broncos over Patriots
Panthers over Seahawks

Broncos over Panthers

 

[Grover Cleveland]

AFAIK Tebow's going to be the analyst on a new Gameday-like show for their SEC network. The show travels around the conference and does broadcasts on location every Saturday. It looks they're positioning him for the Herbstreit role.

 

[manfestival]

Schiano: I woke up this morning planning on being the coach

RIP in peace Schiano

;__;

 

[grandjedi6]

So what's the coaching death toll so far?

 

[Lee Chaolan]

Thought Haslam was going to become the Hulk and smash everything during the Press Conference.

Guy's face got so red. Smigel, I mean Banner held together pretty good too.

 

[Tom Penny]

I think Ben is the best QB in the North. Flacco really shit the bed this year (usually happens after an asshole like him makes bank).

But we'll see what Dalton is made of next week.

Flacco can't play without a running game. His game revolves around throwing bombs. Harder to do when nobody cares about stopping the run.

 

[Futurevoid]

So what's the coaching death toll so far?

5 head coaches last I checked.

Chud
Frazier
Shanahan
Schwartz
Schiano

 

[Lee Chaolan]

The stars are aligning for you Kave! Jump aboard for Bill @ Teds Excellent Adventure! We even play the Browns!

Stay away from Kave. 10 more years of Schoob each time you try to recruit him.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Super Bowl odds:

Here’s the full list of William Hill’s pro football title odds. All odds are as of Monday:

Seahawks: 9-5.
Broncos: 5-2.
49ers: 13-2.
Patriots: 8-1.
Panthers: 9-1.
Packers: 12-1.
Bengals: 15-1.
Eagles: 20-1.
Colts: 25-1.
Saints: 25-1.
Chiefs: 28-1.
Chargers: 40-1.

 

[Futurevoid]

Coughlin during his presser today on whether he wants to continue coaching:

"From my standpoint, as I look at a 16-game season and hopefully a postseason, I’ve always had the energy and the drive and the determination and my answer has always been to those who have asked, I got into this thing a little bit later than most,'' Coughlin said. "I became a head coach in Division III when I was very young. At age 45, I got another opportunity to be a head coach in college. I’m just a young guy in this business. Everybody wants to know what’s next for me. I hope it’s coaching the New York Giants. I don’t spend a lot of time thinking about me, and my circumstance, and my situation, it’s rather our team. Where we’re going and what direction we’re in.'

 

[ShaneB]

Coughlin is only 45??? My god. He looks 85.

edit: Nevermind!

 

[MechDX]

Coughlin is only 45??? My god. He looks 85.

That's when he started coaching....

 

[Kastrioti]

Thanks for the memories Jim Schwartz:

*Wipes tear off eye*

Seriously though for the first few years the guys did change the culture and team around. Sometimes people forget just how bad the 2008 0-16 team. Three players remained off that team, Megatron, Gosder Cherlius (Colts) and Cliff Avril (Seahwaks). Both Gosder and Cliff are now gone and mediocre. Gosder has played horrible in Indianapolis from the games I've seen and Mayhew replaced him with an undrafted Rookie. Cliff Avril made a living off of Suh.

It was so bad under the Rod Marrinelli era, players didn't give a shit, would park there cars wherever they wanted and just had no respect for the organization. Rod Marrinelli was a fucking high school coach from a rival of ours here in Los Angeles, Rosemead High School Contrary to what what people think Schwartz did change the culture for the better and I thank him for that. It was a good first three years with improvement but the team and fans started to tune him out and our gameplan was starting to get pretty damn predictable.

Bring on the new coach and the draft, but Schwartz and mainly Martin Mayhew laid a great foundation for whoever comes in next.

 

[Talon]

Top rated center in football this year by PFF

Let''s be honest, top rated center is like tallest midget.

 

[Future PhaZe]

Super Bowl odds:

I like those Chief odds a lot...they've only had definitive losses against the Broncos and Colts this year and the Colts are on a terrible run of bad football of late

 

[rando14]

paging bionic: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=742873

 

[ShaneB]

That's when he started coaching....

Yup. Thanks for clarifying my reading failure.

 

[unknownstranger]

Super Bowl odds:

Way too high of odds for Seattle and too high for San Francisco. Not sure why everyone has 49ers odds so low. They've only beaten 1 decent team on the road and are 2-4 against playoff teams.

 

[Plinko]

Lovie has Jeff Tedford already lined up at OC.

This Tampa thing is happening fast. I'm kind of surprised. I think it'll work out, though.

 

[grandjedi6]

5 head coaches last I checked.

Chud
Frazier
Shanahan
Schwartz
Schiano

So Buccanneers and Vikings got tired of the shit anyway, huh? Kinda shits on the "you can save your job" narrative.

Still, that's way better than the last few years. Assuming there aren't any last minute firings still to come.

 

[Plinko]

5 head coaches last I checked.

Chud
Frazier
Shanahan
Schwartz
Schiano

Kubiak, but that was earlier.

 

[Crisco]

You are mostly right until the last part. The Ravens made the only possible decision, but it wasn't the right one. The right one, the smart one, is to say, we do not want to commit top money to a mid level QB. But they had no choice; after performing like he did in the playoffs and winning the Superbowl, they couldn't let him walk. It was still the wrong decision. I just feel they thought he was better than he was. Even in the offseason, I floated the idea that maybe Joe had "tipped" in the playoffs, and that was much of what we were going to see going forward, and he could possibly justify his contract. Joe repayed us with his worst performance of his career. Our line was bad this year, as was our running game, but I've watched all the games, and Joe looked worse. He looked like someone trying to justify his contract, and that led to a career high in INTs and a career low in completion percentage and QB rating.

But yes, the foundation is there for the Ravens to succeed, and I still believe our defense this year is better than last year, minus the superhuman (insert deer antler joke) abilities bestowed on them by Ray Lewis' last ride magic. We were weak on offense in terms of talent all year, but I'm going to say Torrey Smith and Marlon Brown are probably a better 1-2 than Derrick Mason and Mark Clayton were.

I still think it was the wrong decision to sign him long term, even if it was the only possible situation. People said he held the Ravens hostage, and he really did.

I don't think he's a mid level QB. Hell, even if he is, look at the kind of money Ryan, Stafford, and Cutler got. Those guys haven't won shit and probably never will. Flacco has never had a receiving corps like they've enjoyed over the years either. Not having a QB who can win football games is the NFL version of purgatory, avoiding it doesn't have a price tag.

 

[Spinluck]

Flacco can't play without a running game. His game revolves around throwing bombs. Harder to do when nobody cares about stopping the run.

Yea, we forget to mention that Ray Rice was fucking garbage this year.

Playing with injuries? Shit line? Can any Ravens fan explain?

 

[Future PhaZe]

I can see Tampa spending big money for the Rams pick

The last thing Lovie wants to do is coach bad quarterbacks after what he's experienced the last decade.

 

[Kastrioti]

The last of us was pretty good. Whats keeping it from game of the year contention for me is the lack of replay value. Absolutely no point to pop that game in again.

The multiplayer and multiplayer community were solid in it for about two weeks. It tried being like Gears of War in terms of multiplayer, but there will never be another Gears of War game again (in terms of community and multiplayer). God I played the shit out of Gears of War 1 when it first came out.

At least TLoU will get some added storyline DLC so theres that. It was my personal GOTY, but when my PS3 comes back from repairs in a few days I'm going to have to pick up Bioshock Infinite.

 

[Futurevoid]

The last of us was pretty good. Whats keeping it from game of the year contention for me is the lack of replay value. Absolutely no point to pop that game in again.

Didn't have that issue. Played through and beat it three times. I wouldn't mind another go on Survival Difficulty again just because I enjoyed that difficulty so much the first time around.

 

[Goro Majima]

Way too high of odds for Seattle and too high for San Francisco. Not sure why everyone has 49ers odds so low. They've only beaten 1 decent team on the road and are 2-4 against playoff teams.

Also Super Bowl loser's curse is still in effect for them. Not that I believe in curses but it's hard to argue with history!

 

[DUFFMCWALIN]

Way too high of odds for Seattle and too high for San Francisco. Not sure why everyone has 49ers odds so low. They've only beaten 1 decent team on the road and are 2-4 against playoff teams.

Same team as last year so as far as the "experience" angle goes you can't play that. We lost 4 games this year, all to playoff teams. We lost two of those games by a combined 4 points and well the other two games were bad, but also very early in the season. We've won six games in a row. To sleep on us would be fucking idiotic, which is why I don't see the Packers doing it.

 

[Plinko]

I can see Tampa spending big money for the Rams pick

The last thing Lovie wants to do is coach bad quarterbacks after what he's experienced the last decade.

I think Glennon isn't going anywhere. I can't see them picking a QB.

Besides, he's bringing Tedford with him. That guy works wonders with QBs.

 

[BaltimoreLarry]

Yea, we forget to mention that Ray Rice was fucking garbage this year.

Playing with injuries? Shit line? Can any Ravens fan explain?

Oh, I said ealier that Ray Rice was a problem, along with his contract. I wished we traded him after last season, we're in real trouble with him, because he has no value. All of your reasons could be true, although they never really came out and said he was hurt, but I watched him all year and he just looked old. No burst through the line or out of cuts, he'd go down on light contact which in the past would have been nothing.

My two theories....he got fat, which slowed him down. I have no facts other than he looked fat. Second theory, he just had a baby, and if you've had a baby, you know it can affect your work.

 

[Colonel Nasty]

If the bucs trade up, it'll be for a pass rusher.

 

[ShaneB]

YAY

Jon Gruden is happy where he is. The ESPN analyst said Monday he has no interest in any of the head-coaching jobs that opened up. "There are plenty of good candidates out there," he said.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Same team as last year so as far as the "experience" angle goes you can't play that. We lost 4 games this year, all to playoff teams. We lost two of those games by a combined 4 points and well the other two games were bad, but also very early in the season. We've won six games in a row. To sleep on us would be fucking idiotic, which is why I don't see the Packers doing it.

Niner offense seems worse to me than last year. Packers game will be telling. Maybe the Niners have been holding back and will shred them again but they seem to have Kaep on a leash (the Niners coaches, I mean).

 

[Spinluck]

I like those Chief odds a lot...they've only had definitive losses against the Broncos and Colts this year and the Colts are on a terrible run of bad football of late

Guess you missed this entire month.

The Colts have only lost 1 game out of 4 this month.

And we did that to the Chiefs away from home.

Now, I still think we are a shit team, but we've been playing well as of late. Against shit teams nonetheless, but I like our chances against the Chiefs at Home.

 

[jbug617]

Kubiak is also an option in Tampa.

@AdamSchefter: Another coach the Buccaneers are considering is former Texans HC Gary Kubiak, per league sources.

 

[Talon]

Yes, please.

Another coach the Buccaneers are considering is former Texans HC Gary Kubiak, per league sources.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/417780580093554688

 

[MechDX]

Kubiak is also an option in Tampa.

:jnc :jnc :jnc :jnc :jnc

SNES!

 

[BaltimoreLarry]

Not having a QB who can win football games is the NFL version of purgatory, avoiding it doesn't have a price tag.

I argue that having an underperforming, overpayed QB locked up long term is another version of NFL purgatory.

 

[Mindlog]

:jnc :jnc :jnc :jnc :jnc

SNES!

The Texans will draft Clowney and pick up Freeman.

 

[mastershake]

Niner offense seems worse to me than last year. Packers game will be telling. Maybe the Niners have been holding back and will shred them again but they seem to have Kaep on a leash (the Niners coaches, I mean).

its going to be a bloodbath at Lando

 

[RBH]

YAY

Jon Gruden is happy where he is. The ESPN analyst said Monday he has no interest in any of the head-coaching jobs that opened up. "There are plenty of good candidates out there," he said.

Fuck this shit.

I want to see Gruden back on the sidelines!

 

[JABEE]

The Browns have asked the Patriots for permission to interview Josh McDaniels, according to a league source.

https://twitter.com/jeffphowe/status/417781594754015232

Kave.

Bring out the Pug!

 

[jbug617]

Reading this pisses you off about what they are doing to Bowles. Browns are also interviewing him

@BenVolin: Bowles has interviewed for at least MIA, OAK, DAL, DET, DEN, STL jobs in last 5 yrs. Is he getting a legit shot, or just a Rooney Rule guy?

 

[Buckethead]

Clay is just faking his injury so that Nate Palmer can end Kaep's career.

It will be a total accidental thing but this is how things will play out.

So it goes.

 

[DUFFMCWALIN]

Niner offense seems worse to me than last year. Packers game will be telling. Maybe the Niners have been holding back and will shred them again but they seem to have Kaep on a leash (the Niners coaches, I mean).

On average it is worse. Not by much but we had some injuries to both the WR corps and to the O-line. I feel like they still handcuff Kaep alot but I also think that they don't want to show too much of their hand so that they have some new stuff going into the playoffs.