Ron is done in Carolina. End his ass tomorrow, let Sir Purr finish coach the last four weeks.
It's increasingly clear that "Riverboat Ron" is an aberration, a charade, a facade that Ron put up last year and was able to do just enough with to keep his job, but the same indecisive and ineffective guy who got interviewed and passed over for HC gigs eight times is his true nature.
Maybe he should be put on the permanent Tom Coughlin hot seat and he'd whip into shape. Probably not.
As for Shula, there is no hope for him. The man is overseeing the worst offense in the NFL. Lack of talent at the skill positions, bad OL, bad QB play, all of that jazz, but I'm convinced that Shula has absolutely no clue how to run an NFL offense.