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NFL 2016 Week 12 |OT| Shanksgiving
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grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
Half a win is effectively meaningless in the divisional standings. The only worth while part of a tie is depriving Kansas of a win so that the Broncos, Dolphins and Chiefs all suffer together (while the Raiders benefit). But you play to win, not to lose together.
Basileus777
Member
It's not meaningless when you are competing with Miami for a Wild Card slot. It could keep them out of the playoffs. Their chances of winning the division were low no matter what they did there anyway.
We will end up with a draft pick from a possible 8-8 team. Are we doing it?
ISWThunder
Member
You play to make the playoffs, not to relish in singular victories. The FG was a very low percentage play with very high upside for the Chiefs. Chiefs fans wanted the Broncos to kick the FG there.
That decision hurt the Broncos chances at making the playoffs and had a very low probability of success. It was a shit call.
Officerrob
Banned
Chiefs @ Falcons will be good next week
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
BG doing it?
Broncos 3rd in the AFC west
Broncos currently out of the playoff picture
BORK WINS
Not really. It's still a giant dumpster fire here with no end in sight because those two years at 37 M are guaranteed. Honestly, next season might be a total loss too.
This season will only be a great season if the Broncos were gatekept from the playoffs and their season fucking goes up in a giant red ball of flames. It'll be true justice for everything they've done.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Still wondering where all of this massive hate for Denver came from
They did go to two super bowls in 3 years and pretty much destroyed all in their path with Peyton.
Nemesis121
Member
You are the defending champs, comes with the territory
Version 3.0
Member
Tough loss, but great game. Congrats, Chiefs fans.
Truthfact, Cowboys have the worst strength of schedule in the NFL this season, they'll lose their first playoff game
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
How did the Patriots jump back to Seed 1 with their easy schedule?
This entire offseason and regular season of Elway being a bitch instead of using his genius like he should have.
And I cheered for them throughout all of the playoffs too. What a shame.
sf2fanatic
Member
Confference games, Pats are 7-1 Raiders are 6-1.
sf2fanatic
Member
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
Got ya. Thanks.
Roberto Aguayo is the Brock Osweiler of kickers
Yeah but Jameis is The Rock of QB.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
Miami owning the tie breaker for right now is rather meaningless. They're holding it based on conference record (Miami 5-3 vs Broncos 4-3), which means the Broncos can still catch up since they have 1 extra conference game to still play than Miami. And since the Broncos are guaranteed to win the next tie breaker (common games), they still control their own destiny for the playoffs, even if they aren't technically the 6th seed at the moment (best Miami can do in common games is 2-3 vs the Broncos worst possibility of 2-2). Therefore having a tie here to effectively serve as a tie breaker against Miami isn't essential.
The kick was still stupid and they should have gone for it on 4th down. But a punt wouldn't be the smart choice either, at least not in regards to their playoff hopes vs Miami.
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
Why are the raiders evil? We're just winning baby.
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
I don't feel like Dallas has been tested well. Isn't their schedule easy?
Doesn't matter. An 8th grader could sack Russell at this point.
Bitanator
Member
Can Dallas pick that 8th grader up on the waiver wire?
lmaoMech during Preseason
Mech After Week 1
skLaFarebear
Member
Being a fan of a relevant football team in December. This feels so good.
I never want it to end.
I never want it to end.
OfficerRaichu15
Member
How the hell did the Chiefs win?
Grover Cleveland
Member
So the Panthers are 4-7 through Week 12
Status Update
It: Currently not being done
Possibility of Accomplishing 8-8 Dream: Slim
Grover Cleveland's satisfaction: Minimal
At this point, they might as well legit tank. Doesn't look like the Browns can be caught, but they'll fuck up their pick anyway. No. 2 Pick is the real coveted prize!
Unrelated: Can we kill this narrative that the Panthers were only so good last year because they had an easy schedule? Yeah they played a down NFC East and AFC South, but they were still out there burying teams against a 1st place schedule. In this league, that average margin of victory over a whole season (12 points) isn't possible without being a complete football team. Don't let two games take away from the fact that pretty much everyone who came up against that team got beat down, no matter who they were.
And the team this year is too different to be compared with last years. The offensive line is worse, the QB is worse, the tight end (apparently if yesterday is any indication) is worse, the running backs are worse, the defensive line is worse, the linebackers are hurt, and the secondary is miles worse. It isn't as simple as "Now, that the Panthers are playing a better schedule, they are getting exposed"
Status Update
It: Currently not being done
Possibility of Accomplishing 8-8 Dream: Slim
Grover Cleveland's satisfaction: Minimal
At this point, they might as well legit tank. Doesn't look like the Browns can be caught, but they'll fuck up their pick anyway. No. 2 Pick is the real coveted prize!
Unrelated: Can we kill this narrative that the Panthers were only so good last year because they had an easy schedule? Yeah they played a down NFC East and AFC South, but they were still out there burying teams against a 1st place schedule. In this league, that average margin of victory over a whole season (12 points) isn't possible without being a complete football team. Don't let two games take away from the fact that pretty much everyone who came up against that team got beat down, no matter who they were.
And the team this year is too different to be compared with last years. The offensive line is worse, the QB is worse, the tight end (apparently if yesterday is any indication) is worse, the running backs are worse, the defensive line is worse, the linebackers are hurt, and the secondary is miles worse. It isn't as simple as "Now, that the Panthers are playing a better schedule, they are getting exposed"
Basileus777
Member
Denver still has to play the Raiders, Pats, and Chiefs. They're not likely to win out and thus that .5 games would have been useful. Denver may have to hope Miami loses two games now.
I agree that going for it on 4th down was probably the best move, but punting would have been smarter than going for a low percentage FG that put your defense is a terrible position.
OfficerRaichu15
Member
Super Bowl 48
Story of the season man. Just wait until they play cincy...well wait until GB....I mean wait until they play the Steelers....what I really meant was wait until the ravens game that defense is the real deal...well shit just wait until the skins game they beat GB and put up 42 and ran wild...pfft Dallas hasn't beaten anyone!
tiggerkiddo
Member
Denver getting absolutely destroyed in Super Bowls is a bit of a common thing
FloydtheFathead
Member
Good morning everyone
But Philly.. fuck up a few more times pls... I'd like to be sure..
Exactly where we need to probably to get my boy Raekwon McMillian.. excellent
But Philly.. fuck up a few more times pls... I'd like to be sure..
It's like how a cowboys fan could rightly say a team that torches their secondary next week wouldn't necessarily do it in the playoffs because they'll have claiborne and church back. Seattle's OL and ET got decimated in the eagles game but they'll be back for the playoffs
Peppers will bustGood morning everyone
Exactly where we need to probably to get my boy Raekwon McMillian.. excellent
But Philly.. fuck up a few more times pls... I'd like to be sure..
yankeehater
Member
Cincy, ravens, and packers are all having really down years. What makes Dallas's run so impressive is not the teams that they beat, but rather that they are doing it with a rookie qb.
BlackGhost
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Tom Hanks loves the Cleve, that is all.
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Can't wait to ignore these games, it's gonna be dope.
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Haloid1177
Banned
The one thing I take from this weekend is the Giants will end up with a better record (it looks like) than 9-7 so maybe their postseason bullshit won't pass if they get their winning out now.
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
We've also seen what an elite quarterback does with an o-line
Rodgers looks like... well...
FloydtheFathead
Member
After the Game... I'm not sure I am liking him as much as I did going to the game. He has issues with his temper (getting into a physical confrontation with a fan.. Thank god Kerry Coombs was there to shut that down as much as he did because that would have been a mess.) his alleged off the field issues (no real evidence outside of an article or two so I won't talk about them here. It's still disconcerting) and his need to shittalk people and let them get in his head like Odell (him taunting the stands after his pick Saturday.. that goes back to people taunting him on twitter about it.. he can't let shit go. That's a red flag to me)
I would almost bet that Cleveland passes on him and looks to trade down or just pull the trigger on a QB (which I hope they don't.) I won't necessarily be upset if they decide not and just get BPA.
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