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NFL 2016 Week 12 |OT| Shanksgiving
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CrocMother
Banned
It's not that Dallas isn't playing good teams, it's that everyone looks bad after we beat them! 😁
he is who we thought he was
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
Wait
How does Cleveland not take a QB at #1? The whole purpose of the last draft was to stock up for when they take a QB this year!
VeryGooster
Banned
good morning, friends
FloydtheFathead
Member
Because compared to last year.. the top two QBs do not look as strong.
DeShaun Watson had a down year.. he turned up in the end and looked better.. but I'm not 100% sold and Kizer started off good and then went to shit.. I'm not sold on them and don't think they can turn a team around a la Cam or Luck (those players don't come around every year and I am aware of that.. but QB play overall wasn't the biggest issue surprisingly enough.. at least compared to other parts of the team like our shitty secondary..)
If I'm actually reflecting on him, I'm just focusing on the tape. It's just that he's a jack-of-all-trades player with elite athleticism. But he's not going to be rotating between RB/LB/SS/CB at the NFL, he's going to do one of those, most likely safety. And he could be a hybrid I guess in nickel. So while he does everything, I'm not sure he does one thing at an elite level. His coverage skills leave something to be desired and he's got tight hips. It's more a thing where I'm growing wary of elite college players who rely on their athleticism. It's easy to be a dominant player when you're the most athletic guy on the field, but what about when you're not? Because in the NFL, he's going to be going against athletes that are at least as athletic as him, if not more. And if that's the case, is he still a top tier safety? I'm not quite sure. He'll be good, but I don't think he'll be the transcendent player he's expected to be.
VeryGooster
Banned
Eagles
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
So trading down would be the answer right? I mean if you want a top flight CB you have to move down.
Yeah I looked at the upcoming quarterback prospects on walterfootball
woof
Good. He needs to step away for a bit and get out of his own head if he has any hope of getting better
Those are some dank nugs.
yankeehater
Member
Ridiculous. Eagles already had the worst wrs in the NFL, can't wait to see how bad they are now.
AngmarsKing701
Member
Ravens are in 1st place and bouncing back from an injury-plagued season. Not sure why they're listed here.
I am surprised to see the Packers, Panthers, Cards and Bungholes all having top 10 draft picks if the season ended today.
FloydtheFathead
Member
See.. you hit another concern that I have with him. Are we in love with his athleticism so much that we are ignoring other things about him. Now for example.. everyone compares him to Charles Woodson.. and Charles (even today at his age..) was an astounding athlete, but Charles had something that Jabril doesn't have in comparison to Charles in my opinion.. instinct.
Charles had that amazing instinct to allow him to play every position in the secondary which combined with his athleticism was astounding. He would be able to pick up a play and strike and make a positive impact.
Jabrill has that instinct.. but compared to Charles.. no way.. and that's why another concern that I have.
If they want to look Jabrill to play secondary.. then they need to look at Ohio State.. and draft Malik Hooker if they want a solid player at safety. I am a big fan of Malik.. Big. He is a solid athlete and can make amazing plays.. he will be a very good player for whichever team that drafts him.
Yup.. i almost would want the Browns to say fuck it next year and roll out Kessler again and wait to see about Lamar Jackson..
Can we just give him the Heisman still because goddamn he had an amazing season.
ProfessorMoran
Member
Come on Cleveland, win at least one game so my niners can get the first round pick and draft a good QB and be done with Kap.
The league made $450 million per year for TV contracts for just 10 of the Thursday Night games. It doesn't matter how much sense it makes, it will take quite a bit to override that.
Is this vore?
Thank god. The last thing I wanna see in primetime is some Browns/Jaguars game that ends 7-3.
Man I really don't know how the Eagles should draft. I really hope Corey Davis falls to them in the 2nd. If they could get Dalvin Cook in round 1 and Davis in round 2 I think that would be enormous for their offense. Pair them with a tier 2 FA WR (Britt, Floyd, etc.) and the offense would at least be mediocre. I hope they could wait till 3rd round to draft a CB, but if Tabor is there in round 1 or Sidney Jones in round 2 I feel like they have to pull the trigger.
Yeah I doubt it happens, but if ratings are down for TNF, they might get less money for the contracts when it's time to renegotiate and decide to push those games elsewhere. Or, like the article says, maybe just make Thursday night games start with Thanksgiving and continue it through December.
Yeah I doubt it happens, but if ratings are down for TNF, they might get less money for the contracts when it's time to renegotiate and decide to push those games elsewhere. Or, like the article says, maybe just make Thursday night games start with Thanksgiving and continue it through December.
Cairo Santos ‏@cairosantos19 8h8 hours ago
Called the bank shot... just forgot to tell Colquitt. CHIEFS WIN!!
Brazilian National Team should sign him.
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
That's ridiculous
I'd love to know if there have been any other quarterbacks on pace to be the GOAT who have suddenly shit the bed so spectacularly as Rodgers?
Sweeney Tom
Banned
ESPN said:
It only took 3 months to break Hue :[
F must be stopped
To be fair, Rodgers has seemingly recovered in the last few weeks and seems to be back to normal. But he was absolutely dog shit the first third of the season. Which likely means he's due to stink it up tonight since the Packers are probably gonna get spanked for the 3rd week in a row. I still think part of his struggles are due to McCarthy's play calling. The offense can't get any kind of consistency going because McCarthy insists on making the run game happen.
On the topic of Rodgers - it was Jermichael Finley who kind of called him out as a stats focused QB, wasn't it? If Rodgers' is actually a bit of a stat-padder I wonder if that explains why Rodgers took so many sacks early in his career instead of trying to make some tight throws.
PanicFreak
Member
I can't believe that the Broncos lost that game last night. The Chiefs were helped along by some boneheaded penalties committed by the Broncos but they smacked them in the mouth when it counted. They gave up three scoring drives in a row last night.
I had a freaking meltdown last night.
I had a freaking meltdown last night.
yankeehater
Member
The Packers D is giving up close to 40 points per game over their last 4. Rodgers has not been as good this year as previous years but a lot of that could be due to him feeling more pressure. The Eagles terrible offense is just what the Packers defense needs to get well, and that should take a lot of the pressure off of Rodgers.
At least he's back over 300 yards.
On the flip side - the Packers defense in Philly could also be exactly what the Eagles offense needs right now too. Packers vs Eagles/Texans is basically the movable object vs the stoppable force. I legitimately believe a college team could score on the Packers right now. They're that bad.
Heh, on that note, Thanksgiving did bring up an interesting sports discussion. If you put the Cleveland Browns against the Alabama Crimson Tide right now, who would win?
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
He's simply missing easy throws now and not seeing open players...stat whoring or not. That's really the biggest takeaway to me about our offense. He has the best o-line that he's had in years and it's going to waste.
I also don't trust the stats for the last few games because there's a whole lot of garbage time in there.
He just wins though!
Honestly, Rodgers has always had a bit of an issue with not seeing wide open receivers. That was always a huge reason he took a lot of sacks for the first few years.
Also you're right about the garbage time stats.
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
Giving Tom Savage the start against Green Bay would be the perfect game to get his feet wet.
But nah, let's keep the worst QB in the league under center.
But nah, let's keep the worst QB in the league under center.
CrocMother
Banned
If Brock fails so hard that he gets permanently benched, people are losing their jobs. It's a fucked situation and the only way is getting better is if Brock improves.
BaltimoreLarry
Member
Seriously, if the Ravens make the playoffs and he keeps it up, he deserves at least one MVP vote. Not the award, but at least one vote.
Dude the Chargers had the 28th ranked passing defense.....he just cant hit the broadside of the barn, locks on to Hopkins all too often, overthrows 80% of his passes but he does have impeccable hair.
The owner mandated to sign a QB. Who fires the owner?
Media keeps saying it was a "group effort" owner/GM/HC but I still dont buy it. O'Brien was never afraid to yank a QB the last two years now he suddenly is? he has made some underhanded comments towards Brock in post game pressers this year and much like Belichik he delivers messages via the media.
Im almost 100% convinced Savage is his guy but he has been overridden
I've just come to accept that any QB can look good against the Packers. Sam Bradford was getting MVP talk after he played them.
yankeehater
Member
Vikes had a functional OL then, if those guys had stayed healthy Bradford would still be getting MVP talk because the vikings would still be winning. They have lost to many guys to keep the offense going, which has also forced the D to do to much and now those guys collapse at the end of games every week.
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