NFL Off-Season Thread: "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?"

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Slo said:
Is that Baldur's Gate on a tablet? :O
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It is indeed. Baldur's Gate II coming this summer as well. Both with new content, updated infinity engine all on the iPad and PC.

Again. Life = Over. I spent well over 250 hours between those two games and Planescape Torment years ago (there I admit it!). iPad 3 purchase...JUSTIFIED.
 
Round Two.

Squicken, you're up.

St. Louis (2-14) - squicken - WR - Stephen Hill - In their quest to do nothing to help the offense in 2012, and able to get clear of Sam Bradford's giant rookie contract after the season, the Rams proceed with their own QB exit strategy. No player selected in the first two rounds will be less prepared to play his position in 2012 than Hill, but his potential is enormous. With a good coaching staff, he has the explosiveness, size and speed to be an elite WR in a couple of years. Much like the selection of Robert Quinn in Round #1 of 2011, Hill is a very raw player with a very high ceiling. Also like Quinn, he has a very low floor, and could flame out very quickly if he is unable to correct his issues with route running and drops, or transition from a college option offense to the rather elaborate digit system run by offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer. Also like Quinn, maturity issues are a concern. All that said, I'd be super excited if he was available here.

Indianapolis (2-14) - LukeSmith, Narag (skipped) LJ11 - CB - Stephon Gilmore - It'll be a small miracle if he gets here, I know they need offensive weapons and some linemen, but he's by far the best player. Shutdown Sam Watkins, can run, and one of the best corners. In reality he'll never be here.

Minnesota (3-13) - Slo - LB - Zach Brown - Athletic backer that can cover and rush - a real fit for our system. Either Henderson that resigns could move to MLB (I doubt we keep both), and we're set for ten years on the weakside.

Tampa Bay (4-12) - I H8 Memes (skipped) Futurevoid - CB - Alfonzo Dennard - Ronde Barber will be back for his 16th season and they signed Eric Wright (who isn't a great solution at corner, IMO) but Barber isn't getting any younger and they need help at the Corner. Dennard s the best player at the position available.

Cleveland (4-12) - Wes, hiryu - TE - Coby Fleener - Browns need offensive weapons and it was him or a RB.

Jacksonville (5-11) - Tamanon - LJ11 - Mo Sanu - Guess they can go DE with Branch, not sold on him though. Need weapons on O, go with Sanu

St. Louis (2-14) - squicken -

Carolina (6-10) - Bowser -

Buffalo (6-10) - LJ11 -

Miami (6-10) - Junie12 -

Seattle (7-9) - Canuck76, Bluemax -

Kansas City (7-9) - Futurevoid -

Dallas (8-8) - Sviatoslav -

Philadelphia (8-8) - yankeehater, Brinbe, JABEE -

New York Jets (8-8) - darkside31337, Fatalah -

New England (13-3) - Dutch Patriot, Alligatorjandro, Case, ActStriker, Bread -

San Diego (8-8) - Nightz -

Chicago (8-8) - yacobod, cuevas, PhD. -

Philadelphia (8-8) - yankeehater, Brinbe, JABEE -

Tennessee (9-7) - MOB and sf2fanatic -

Cincinnati (9-7) - eznark - DT - Devon Still -

Detroit (10-6) - Doorman, goldlion054, Plinko, beast786, Agent Icebeezy, PhoenixDark -

Atlanta (10-6) - DCX, RBH

Pittsburgh (12-4) - DeaconKnowledge, chuckddd, AngmarsKing701 -

Denver (8-8) - Godslay - DT - Jerrel Worthy -

Houston (10-6) - Vyer -

New Orleans - (PICK REMOVED)

Green Bay (15-1) - eznark, Buckethead, mastershake, TheLegendary, brentech, Greg, wienke -

Baltimore (12-4) - BaltimoreLarry, Nakazato -

San Francisco* (13-3) - methodman, FrenchMovieTheme, LevelNth -

New England (13-3) - Dutch Patriot, Alligatorjandro, Case, ActStriker, Bread -

New York Giants* (9-7) - Futurevoid, Wellington, Striker, BigAT, The Frankman

On the clock - Rams. Cutoff - 9AM
 
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...manning-injury-would-serve-the-broncos-right/

Pat Robertson chimes in about Tim Tebow:
“I think the Denver Broncos treated him shabbily,” Robertson said, via Mediaite.com. “He won seven games, he brought them into the playoffs, for heaven sakes. I mean, they were a nothing team. He rallied them together with spectacular last-minute passes and, you know, when they beat Buffalo — I mean, Pittsburgh, excuse me — it was a tremendous victory. And you just ask yourself, OK, so Peyton Manning was a tremendous MVP quarterback, but he’s been injured. If that injury comes back, Denver will find itself without a quarterback. And in my opinion, it would serve them right.”
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DeaconKnowledge said:
"where are The diapers?"

"we're out"

"what?!"

And now I'm at Wal-Mart.
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Canuck76 said:
More like when do you figure the Giant's D-line will retire. Eli made 3 great passes that game but was just decent throughout the game.


No Super Bowl MVP was deserved the award less
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Respectfully disagree. Tom Brady's 2001 award was more of a shame. I think he threw around 25 passes for 150 yards.
 
I agree with the Fleener choice. Especially after the pro day results. I'm reality I can't see him dropping to round 2 unfortunately.
 
Dragon said:
Respectfully disagree. Tom Brady's 2001 award was more of a shame. I think he threw around 25 passes for 150 yards.
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I'm sure there was a less deserving MVP in the past. It was disgusting to see NFL-gaf crown Eli as a great, hell even elite QB when almost every other part of that team was better.

Look at Tom brady and the crap he had in that game. Old Deion Branch. Gimpy Gronk. And he still almost won that game at the end.
 
Wes said:
I agree with the Fleener choice. Especially after the pro day results. I'm reality I can't see him dropping to round 2 unfortunately.
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After the Ted Ginn signing and Fleener's pro day, I'm really, really heavy on the Niners drafting him and letting Walker go after this season.

6'6" and a sub 4.5 40?! Jesus.
 
Futurevoid said:
It is indeed. Baldur's Gate II coming this summer as well. Both with new content, updated infinity engine all on the iPad and PC.

Again. Life = Over. I spent well over 250 hours between those two games and Planescape Torment years ago (there I admit it!). iPad 3 purchase...JUSTIFIED.
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Oh my fucking God!
 
Canuck76 said:
I'm sure there was a less deserving MVP in the past. It was disgusting to see NFL-gaf crown Eli as a great, hell even elite QB when almost every other part of that team was better.

Look at Tom brady and the crap he had in that game. Old Deion Branch. Gimpy Gronk. And he still almost won that game at the end.
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saltmountain.jpg or something.

eli was great in 46 (one of the best players on the team, not an unreasonable mvp at all) and in 42 he wasn't as good, but he wasn't bad by any means. the patriots offense didn't do even close to what the giants did in 42.
 
Canuck76 said:
I'm sure there was a less deserving MVP in the past. It was disgusting to see NFL-gaf crown Eli as a great, hell even elite QB when almost every other part of that team was better.
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I thought the consensus was "very good" but not "great" and not "elite".

I think most Giants fans were saying the exact same thing.
 
Canuck76 said:
I'm sure there was a less deserving MVP in the past. It was disgusting to see NFL-gaf crown Eli as a great, hell even elite QB when almost every other part of that team was better.

Look at Tom brady and the crap he had in that game. Old Deion Branch. Gimpy Gronk. And he still almost won that game at the end.
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*looks at the giants o-line in 46*
Are you on crack fine sir?
 
wienke said:
I thought the consensus was "very good" but not "great" and not "elite".

I think most Giants fans were saying the exact same thing.
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I don't know man. I was on here right after the super bowl, a lot of smack about Eli was being talked and how "bruh Eli tutally blocked Brady again what an amazing QB I'm so ready for the New York dynasty that's coming"
 
Canuck76 said:
I don't know man. I was on here right after the super bowl, a lot of smack about Eli was being talked and how "bruh Eli tutally blocked Brady again what an amazing QB I'm so ready for the New York dynasty that's coming"
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i think you're confusing trolling for serious opinions. in other words, you've been trolled. that and you are underrating eli's contribution because, well, people on the internet hate to give credit to the winning QB (partly as a reaction to media praise, partly just to complain).
 
there is a 0% chance that fleener is dropping to the 2nd round because the niners will take him in the 1st if he's there. but i doubt he even makes it out of the top 20

p.s. teddy ginn is back? yessssssssssssss!
 
Average QB salaries per year
Peyton Manning $19.2 million (2012-'16)
Tom Brady $18 million (2010-'14)
Michael Vick $16.67 million (2011-'16)
Eli Manning $16.25 (2009-'15)
Philip Rivers $15.3 million (2009-'15)
Jay Cutler $14.67 (2009-'13)
Ben Roethlisberger $14.67 million (2011-'15)
Drew Brees $14.4 million* (2012)
Mark Sanchez $13.49 (2012-'16)
Sam Bradford $13 million (2010-'15)
Aaron Rodgers $12.7 million (2008-'14)
Kevin Kolb $12.4 million (2011-'16)
Matthew Stafford $12 million (2009-'14)
Tony Romo $11.25 million (2011-'16)
Matt Ryan $11.25 million (2008-'13)
Ryan Fitzpatrick $9.83 million (2011-'17)
Matt Cassel $9.66 million (2009-'14)
Matt Schaub $8 million (2007-'12)
Alex Smith $8 million (2012-'14)
*-Exclusive franchise tag (subject to raise)

Other notable quarterbacks
Matt Flynn $6.5 million (2012-'14)
Cam Newton $5.5 million (2011-'14)
Josh Freeman $5.24 million (2009-'13)
Tim Tebow $4.55 million (2010-'14)
Joe Flacco $4.33 million (2008-'12)

Read more: Full details of Alex Smith's contract
Tune to SportsNet Central at 6, 10:30 and midnight on Comcast SportsNet Bay Area for more on this story
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i bolded the lol worthy contracts!
 
DeaconKnowledge said:
Would somebody care to pick for Tamanon?
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At this point it feels like I'm going to do the draft myself. This is the last one I fill in on, though. Someone else can step in.

DE Andre Branch - The Jaguars are still in search of a pass rush. Kampman isn't likely to come back. Mincey is pretty decent but they haven't developed much of anything else. They keep trying in the draft and I think they'll try again with this pick.

EDIT: LJ beat me to it. Go for his. I'd trust his opinion over mine!
 
Futurevoid said:
At this point it feels like I'm going to do the draft myself. This is the last one I fill in on, though. Someone else can step in.

DE Andre Branch - The Jaguars are still in search of a pass rush. Kampman isn't likely to come back. Mincey is pretty decent but they haven't developed much of anything else. They keep trying in the draft and I think they'll try again with this pick.

EDIT: LJ beat me to it. Go for his. I'd trust his opinion over mine!
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Nah, Branch is fine too, I mean they're more apt to do that then take another WR. I just wanted to screw with Squicken. j/k

Just like Sanu and thought he was BPA, so I just chose him, but yeah the Jags need a DE. Flip a coin I guess.

Edit: Branch rushed from a 2pt stance at times, just not sure he's a true 4-3 DE. Has good length though, so he can put on some size, long arms too.
 
Where do you see Kevin Zeitler going off the board, LJ? Early 2nd? I seriously would love to see him drafted by the G-Men.

LJ11 said:
Branch rushed from a 2pt stance at times, just not sure he's a true 4-3 DE.
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Yeah, the option was between he and Chandler Jones for me. Jones might fit the bill more in that regard. Though I still think he might end up being the Giants pick at 32. Don't know if that's considered a reach but the guy just has the body type the team looks for. You can flinch and see Kiwi and JPP when you look at him. Reese loves his Big East pass rushers.
 
Just heard about Ted Ginn coming back...Wow...I love the position the niners are in for the draft. We can really draft for best player available (outside of RG) rather than for positional need
 
Just read an article about Nick Collins. I guess his eval is coming up soon for his neck. Seems like he should be okay for life, which is most important, but I do hope he can play again.

Does seem kind of scary for a defensive player to have neck problems though.
 
Futurevoid said:
Where do you see Kevin Zeitler going off the board, LJ? Early 2nd?


Yeah, the option was between he and Chandler Jones. Jones might fit the bill more in that regard. Though I still think he might end up being the Giants pick at 32. Don't know if that's a reach but the guy just has the body type the team looks for. You can flinch and see Kiwi and JPP when you look at him.
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I like Zeitler a lot, same with Konz. I doubt Zeitler falls too far in the 2nd, you never know though. Guy is a bruiser, may slide for a whatever reason, he's going to be productive.

The one guy I think the Giants are taking is Lavonte David, it's going to happen just to piss me off. At this point you can't convince me that there's a better LB, if he were bigger there'd be no questions.

Last week some pseudo scout was talking about David's elite read react and range, I then posed the question, is he better than Kuechly? No, Luke's already elite, David has size issues. That was his knock, size.

Lavonte's played against tougher comp, with good production. I think he's one of the best players in the draft, I can go on and on. If he doesn't make the All-Pro team in 3 years, then I'll never comment again about anyone.

Edit: I'll never be able to articulate how much I like him. I'd take him in the first, I'd take him in the top 20, do whatever you can, draft LAVONTE DAVID.
 
LJ11 said:
The one guy I think the Giants are taking is Lavonte David, it's going to happen just to piss me off. At this point you can't convince me that there's a better LB, if he were bigger there'd be no questions.
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Yeah, you had mentioned him before. Wellie would be doing cartwheels if we went LB in the first round. I certainly wouldn't mind either. There's a good chance we lose Goff right now.
 
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