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[Mackenzie 92]

I'll be interested to see if Mariota understands pro football concepts. That'll be the important part of his interviews, not what a good guy he is. I just don't see the arm strength and accuracy, coupled with that offense, he has bust written all over him. I've only watched three of his games, though. I'll dive into the tape in a couple of months.

I think his arm strength is adequate, he's got a little more zip than Teddy from what I've seen. He just needs to drive it more consistently. And from what I hear, he's very smart and a tape junkie. I think he'll put in the work to be successful.

Never really know tho. Just glad the Raiders got their guy last year.

 

[Mackenzie 92]

Know you posted this in the other thread, but here's a nice discussion on Williams by Matt Waldman, who I like a lot. Long story short, he think Williams is best player in draft so far, and better than Aaron Donald who was one of his safest picks along with Mr. Watkins.

Sub to the channel, lots of good stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ8hJaiZvTY&list=PLX1Nx57UJgZnFoNiGj7K9qxCSXZVMtENm&index=1

Yeah his RSP is great and worth the cash as well.

I'm hoping against hope that Williams falls to us at 4. I'd actually even trade up for him since this draft is pretty shit overall.

 

[Bowser]

Well a side point, it may not be the kiss of death for the franchise but it certainly would for the GM and coach. Whiffing on a 1st-round QB is the best way to guarantee your ejection.

And on main, I just don't see a scenario where he miraculously turns around. Not only putting my team's hopes into the hands of an accused rapist who steals crab legs and generally coasted the whole season, but having him be the leader of a group of professionals? I just don't see it working out.

The sexual assault accusations are troubling, yes, and will need to be heavily diligenced by teams taking a look at him. The rest of it (crab legs, yelling the pussy thing, etc) don't really phase me that much. He just turned 21 7 days ago. I can tell you right now I was an immature fuck when I was 19-20 years old. He's still got a lot of growing up to do.

All I know is, if he falls past the Jets, some team is going to get tremendous value. I can see St. Louis falling over themselves to take him at 10. Browns at 12 and Texans at 16 would snap him up as well I think.

Just my opinion.

Anyway, this WR class looks really good coming out. I'm hoping the Panthers can snag a good deep threat/speed guy like Rashad Greene, Devin Smith, or Ty Montgomery in the 2nd/3rd round.

 

[Purple Cheeto]

My only wish tonight was to see Mariota fail miserably. he did that and so much more. Let the red flags fly!

66% completions with 10 ypa is the kind of failure most NFL teams would kill for.

 

[Syrinx]

Know you posted this in the other thread, but here's a nice discussion on Williams by Matt Waldman, who I like a lot. Long story short, he think Williams is best player in draft so far, and better than Aaron Donald who was one of his safest picks along with Mr. Watkins.

Sub to the channel, lots of good stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ8hJaiZvTY&list=PLX1Nx57UJgZnFoNiGj7K9qxCSXZVMtENm&index=1

Thanks a ton for this. Just finished the fairly early part where he dominated that RT and they were discussing the leverage game he was playing while also using his strength. Really impressive stuff.

Edit: feel a bit bad for Shawn Oakman though; his tape came before and they're just like "Wow, this guy is way better than Oakman!"

 

[Plasticine]

You only turn down a job interview if you already have something lined up that you feel strongly about.

Chicago come on down?

 

[cdyhybrid]

The sexual assault accusations are troubling, yes, and will need to be heavily diligenced by teams taking a look at him. The rest of it (crab legs, yelling the pussy thing, etc) don't really phase me that much. He just turned 21 7 days ago. I can tell you right now I was an immature fuck when I was 19-20 years old. He's still got a lot of growing up to do.

All I know is, if he falls past the Jets, some team is going to get tremendous value. I can see St. Louis falling over themselves to take him at 10. Browns at 12 and Texans at 16 would snap him up as well I think.

Just my opinion.

Anyway, this WR class looks really good coming out. I'm hoping the Panthers can snag a good deep threat/speed guy like Rashad Greene, Devin Smith, or Ty Montgomery in the 2nd/3rd round.

What about the point shaving?

 

[Gigglepoo]

The Niners should at least interview John Pagano.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

The Niners should at least interview John Pagano.

They don't want to end up with the inferior brother again

 

[sf2fanatic]

I'm thinking we should draft Williams this year. And next year get lucky and draft either Cody or if he turns out good Cordnale

 

[DMczaf]

They don't want to end up with the inferior brother again

Does Mike Nolan have a brother?

 

[Eleuin]

Don't know if this was posted already but PFF's rookie of the year

What a great class overall

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Does Mike Nolan have a brother?

 

[DMczaf]

...this explains his fetish for wearing suits on the sideline.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

...this explains his fetish for wearing suits on the sideline.

He'll use IMAX cameras to spy on the opposing team

 

[Himynameischris]

 

[MechDX]

Texans wouldn't touch Winston at 16. They don't take anyone with off field issues before being drafted

 

[Plasticine]

Source: Bears want second interview with Todd Bowles

Bowles is the guy I want, so this pleases me.

 

[Syrinx]

Just finished the RSP tape.

I want Williams.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Source: Bears want second interview with Todd Bowles

Bowles is the guy I want, so this pleases me.

Chicago getting ready for a Bowles Movement

 

[DMczaf]

Chicago getting ready for a Bowles Movement

 

[JABEE]

It wasn't even the drops that did Marriota in, his receivers couldn't beat press. OL played like dog shit too, specifically the Tackles. Biggest difference between the two teams was the OL play, OSU mauled them and their DL had no clue how to fit the run.

This is true. Look at the holes that OSU were creating in the run game. OSU's O-Line mauled them. Mariota was running for his life.

 

[zychi]

Chicago getting ready for a Bowles Movement

I stole this. Made me laugh.

 

[JABEE]

Jason Peters and Lane Johnson made it as PFF's All Pro Left and Right Tackles.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/01/05/2014-pff-all-pro-team/

 

[Ninja Scooter]

I stole this. Made me laugh.

 

[Gigglepoo]

Texans wouldn't touch Winston at 16. They don't take anyone with off field issues before being drafted

He's going first so you won't have to worry.

 

[zychi]

 

[tiggerkiddo]

Source: Bears want second interview with Todd Bowles

Bowles is the guy I want, so this pleases me.

And then you'll get Fox instead

Anywho it sounds like Elway is willing to wait on Quinn. I'm not opposed to that.

 

[abolisher6812]

I am praying that Mariota and Winston go 1 and 2 allowing the Jaguars to draft Leonard Williams. I will also be happy with Randy Gregory. Jacksonville needs to get older on offense and younger on defense.

 

[RBH]

:lol

 

[cdyhybrid]

 

[RBH]

Welcome Oregon fans!

rofl

 

[Kave_Man]

Don't know if this was posted already but PFF's rookie of the year

What a great class overall

Joel Bitonio. <3

 

[Milchjon]

PFF on Teddy:

"He finished with the best grade of any QB over the past five weeks of the season."

 

[Crisco]

Taking a chance on a QB when you just went 4-12 or worse seems like a really bad idea. You want to be competitive? Draft offensive linemen, running backs, huge (not fast) receivers, and spend all your money in free agency on defense. Pretty much any team can follow that formula and win 8-10 games within a year or two.

 

[RBH]

Buffalo Bills defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz will not return for the 2015 season, a league source said Monday night.

The reason, according to the source, was due to differing defensive philosophies.

Schwartz and new Bills coach Rex Ryan spoke about the direction of the defense within the last 24 hours.

Dennis Thurman, who was Ryan's defensive coordinator with the New York Jets the last two seasons, is expected to take over as defensive coordinator with the Bills.

Personnel sources said that Schwartz should receive strong interest from other teams looking to fill the role of defensive coordinator.

The Bills finished fourth overall in total defense, third in turnovers forced, and first in sacks.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12158322/jim-schwartz-return-buffalo-bills?ex_cid=espnapi_public

 

[Futurevoid]

He was on the Giants list for defensive coordinator so I've no doubt he'll be brought in for an interview. Can't say I'm a huge fan though.

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

He was on the Giants list for defensive coordinator so I've no doubt he'll be brought in for an interview. Can't say I'm a huge fan though.

Seems to be a fine candidate at the coordinator level. Head coach is probably too much for him, but I doubt that happens again anyway.

 

[LJ11]

Jason Peters and Lane Johnson made it as PFF's All Pro Left and Right Tackles.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/01/05/2014-pff-all-pro-team/

Peters may end up a Hall of Famer, there's no doubt he's a hall of fame talent, unreal athlete. Great player when healthy and motivated.

Schwartz has some awful blitz packages, could have learned a thing or two if he stuck around. Don't blame him for leaving, D looked pretty lost early in the year, but they got their shit together late in the year. His D puts stress on your Safeties, everyone has to communicate properly.

 

[BigAT]

Peters may end up a Hall of Famer, there's no doubt he's a hall of fame talent, unreal athlete. Great player when healthy and motivated.

Schwartz has some awful blitz packages, could have learned a thing or two if he stuck around. Don't blame him for leaving, D looked pretty lost early in the year, but they got their shit together late in the year. His D puts stress on your Safeties, everyone has to communicate properly.

Giants don't have safeties!

 

[RBH]

OP updated for Browns-GAF.

 

[LJ11]

Giants don't have safeties!

Not sure the Bills do either. Aaron Williams is alright, but Searcy is a box safety. Bills DL gets a ton of credit, but I think our DBs don't get enough credit. Hopefully they continue to improve.

 

[RBH]

Giants don't have safeties!

Neither do the Falcons!

 

[MechDX]

Adam Schefter &#8207;@AdamSchefter · 4h4 hours ago
Broncos will seek permission to interview Ravens OC Gary Kubiak, who played and coached in Denver but has said he would stay in Baltimore.

 

[BigAT]

Not sure the Bills do either. Aaron Williams is alright, but Searcy is a box safety. Bills DL gets a ton of credit, but I think our DBs don't get enough credit. Hopefully they continue to improve.

Any thoughts on Pepper Johnson as a potential DC? Kind of hard to evaluate position guys for that jump to coordinator, especially if they haven't done it before.

Seemed like he did a good job coaching the line in Buffalo, but there's also a ton of talent to work with there. I think I would prefer him over Schwartz at this point, when it comes to evaluating just the two of them in a vacuum.

 

[Jarnet87]

Neither do the Falcons!

Bucs all up in this club! We were playing Goldson at free safety, thats how bad our safeties are. The guy just goes out there to hit people in the head, what the hell is he doing playing the coverage role.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Adam Schefter &#8207;@AdamSchefter · 4h4 hours ago
Broncos will seek permission to interview Ravens OC Gary Kubiak, who played and coached in Denver but has said he would stay in Baltimore.

What a blow to the ego. Getting turned down by Gary Kubiak is like getting turned down by the AT&T girl.

 

[Kave_Man]

OP updated for Browns-GAF.

Nothing but disrespect and thuggery from you RBH.

I like that.

 

[Plasticine]

And then you'll get Fox instead

John Fox to interview with Bears

 

[LJ11]

Any thoughts on Pepper Johnson as a potential DC? Kind of hard to evaluate position guys for that jump to coordinator, especially if they haven't done it before.

Seemed like he did a good job coaching the line in Buffalo, but there's also a ton of talent to work with there. I think I would prefer him over Schwartz at this point, when it comes to evaluating just the two of them in a vacuum.

I'd like to keep Peppers if possible because he's been around some smart coaches. Helped us stop the Pats run game cold in the first meeting, but at times we reverted to 13 form against the run, mainly the Broncos/Packers games, but I guess we were playing with a light box.

Schwartz is very much like Fewell in a lot of ways, lots of coverage, split safety coverage in particular, rarely blitzes. No idea what Peppers would do.