I would rather see a young QB grow by playing and making mistakes vs sitting on the bench, but I just side on that line of the philosophy personally. I see the Cowboys as a pretty good situation where a rookie QB could land. Strong O-Line and run game, Dez is a freak who can bail out his QB, Witten a solid option as a safety valve. If (more like when) Romo goes down they might go to Clemens or sign a veteran QB but I can't the see Cowboys not starting Dak at some point if the season goes to shit.
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I would rather see a young QB grow by playing and making mistakes vs sitting on the bench, but I just side on that line of the philosophy personally. I see the Cowboys as a pretty good situation where a rookie QB could land. Strong O-Line and run game, Dez is a freak who can bail out his QB, Witten a solid option as a safety valve. If (more like when) Romo goes down they might go to Clemens or sign a veteran QB but I can't the see Cowboys not starting Dak at some point if the season goes to shit.
Grover Cleveland
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Football Clark Kent needs to give STD Man another bearhug tonight
Since I have nothing else to do before I head over to the Superdome for tonight's game, here are some pictures I took from the first training camp practice I've gone to in about 7 years:
_DSC2761 by Jmood 88, on Flickr
_DSC2906 by Jmood 88, on Flickr
_DSC2933 by Jmood 88, on Flickr
_DSC2978 by Jmood 88, on Flickr
They somehow both missed the punch
_DSC3086 by Jmood 88, on Flickr
_DSC3093 by Jmood 88, on Flickr
_DSC3260 by Jmood 88, on Flickr
_DSC3269 by Jmood 88, on Flickr
_DSC3209 by Jmood 88, on Flickr
_DSC2761 by Jmood 88, on Flickr_DSC2906 by Jmood 88, on Flickr_DSC2933 by Jmood 88, on Flickr_DSC2978 by Jmood 88, on FlickrThey somehow both missed the punch
_DSC3086 by Jmood 88, on Flickr_DSC3093 by Jmood 88, on Flickr_DSC3260 by Jmood 88, on Flickr_DSC3269 by Jmood 88, on Flickr_DSC3209 by Jmood 88, on Flickrwhat a cheater, kuechly brings shame to bostonFootball Clark Kent needs to give STD Man another bearhug tonight
Grover Cleveland
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Looks like a legal play to me Jack
Himynameischris
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So my real breakdown of last nights game....(although my breakdown last night was great too)
I really like how Tannehill has progressed so far, he has taken command of the offense and the pass blocking has allowed him to finish his reads and he's making decisions quicker (and the right ones) and he has done a good job of calling his audibles. I think he'll have a good year and I'm not delusional in thinking the team needs to make the playoffs for Tannehill to keep his job, like some idiots out there. Cameron has been a huge let down but everyone else on the offense seems to be improving with the exception of the run blocking which is god awful.
The offense will keep us in games but ultimately the terrible defense will keep us under .500 there are just too many holes to fix from last year (that weren't really addressed this off-season anyways)
Not much I could say about the defense other than I'm glad Wake seems to be back....
I really like how Tannehill has progressed so far, he has taken command of the offense and the pass blocking has allowed him to finish his reads and he's making decisions quicker (and the right ones) and he has done a good job of calling his audibles. I think he'll have a good year and I'm not delusional in thinking the team needs to make the playoffs for Tannehill to keep his job, like some idiots out there. Cameron has been a huge let down but everyone else on the offense seems to be improving with the exception of the run blocking which is god awful.
The offense will keep us in games but ultimately the terrible defense will keep us under .500 there are just too many holes to fix from last year (that weren't really addressed this off-season anyways)
Not much I could say about the defense other than I'm glad Wake seems to be back....
FloydtheFathead
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Does Matt Ryan bring shame?
Alligatorjandro
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ok Stevie Wonder
With Jerruh rolling him around.
The_Darkest_Red
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I agree with you. Tannehill is already doing so much more than he did under previous regimes and the time he's had to process plays has been great for him. Let's hope it holds up in the regular season. I'm disappointed we haven't seen more explosive plays from DeVante Parker this preseason, though.
The running game is going to be bad. Line isn't built for run blocking and Ajayi/old Foster are average players at best.
I legitimately feel bad for Tony Lippett. Dude is clearly not ready to be a starting CB in the NFL and I have a feeling he'll be benched for Xavien Howard before too long.
Grover Cleveland
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Didn't call a penalty now did theyyy?
The misguided brother at the goalpost saw the error in his ways when his fellow refs discussed the play with him.
AbortedWalrusFetus
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Dallas is in a somewhat better situation to do this than other teams because their line is so solid and Dak would face a lot less pressure than a new QB on other teams. A rookie would have the time necessary to make decisions and make sure they have clean throwing mechanics. If they don't have that time they can form bad habits which I think can hurt them as much as help them. For example, I think that's partially what happened to Foles (other than him generally just sucking). Once Foles realized he had no offensive line he threw off his back foot so much that he essentially developed it as a habit and never recovered even when he had good protection.
As for Dallas, I'd still say they'd much rather have a veteran from the perspective that they think they have a team to make a deep playoff run. If that's the case you don't want someone who will use it as a learning experience, you want someone who is already learned.
The_Darkest_Red
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You're no Tom Penny, beed.
Himynameischris
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To be fair to Lippett due was a WR two years ago he's a work in progress and shouldn't be starting anyways...but that's how terrible our CBs and depth is...I don't care how brilliant Gase turns out to be this team had so many holes that he needs at least another offseason to make it at least decent and that's if you hit no the draft/FA and not keep getting busts like we have. Dion Jordan coming back and playing like he was projected too would do wonders for this team.
For the line the best we could do is make Turner the RG and hope Tunsil improves throughout the season but even then it'll still be pretty terrible.
who are you
I could see that in all honesty
The_Darkest_Red
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Yeah that's what I meant when I said Lippett isn't ready. He could get there eventually but he's way too raw right now, dude just gets burned constantly by quick moves.
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Sweeney Tom
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Only problem with this is lot of young qb's won't grow. Most well become overwhelmed and regress and that's when you get a qb making dumb mistakes or making risky plays that hurt the team. Confidence goes a long way with players. You lose that and all the talent in the world won't make up for it. I don't want guys like Dez or Witten to have to bail our qb out I want Dak to be able to make and create plays. Let's be honest most fans aren't willing to watch a qb grow and make mistakes a couple of bad games they will be calling for that players head and the media will make it a circus. Dak looks like he has all the tools to succeed he just needs to polish some of his game up. I do agree that we'll see him start a few games due to injury or another wasted season. Like Bill Parcells said put the anointing oil away.
we are all gata
Sweeney Tom
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This might be the rudest thing anyone's ever said about me
The_Darkest_Red
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Alligatorjandro
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There is a little bit of me inside of all of us
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CrocMother
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It's so small we wouldn't even notice if there was
Alligatorjandro
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Well yeah. I save the bigger parts for your mom.
The_Darkest_Red
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til about gata's multitool
Just cut the cord, man. There are so many ways to watch stuff online these days for super cheap. It's not worth dealing with the hassle of cable/satellite subs.
Offensive PI on Gronk.
North Jersey. Basically right by NYC.
My issue is I want to pay as little as possible for the internet and tv. But Fios is being bitchy about me downgrading.
Not easy when you are an out of town fan trying to watch the games.
Is Sunday Ticket available through any other service like PS Vue? Or still exclusive through DirecTV?
Dak was a developmental project going in, who was most likely going to be QB3 behind Moore. For the most part, he has done what was asked, which is encouraging, however the approach towards his development shouldn't change.
He still needs to work on his footwork and platform from which he throws. Still has a little hitch in his delivery that I think needs to be cleaned up. Haven't seen him drop back from center. Have not seen him throw into tight windows or throw antcipatory routes. Wish we could fast forward to next preseason and see if he makes significant improvement. It's hard to judge every aspect of QB play without all-22, but from what we have seen, Dak is dev project that looks promising. Nothing more imo.
I would rather have a vet as well, but the vet is going to take weeks to get familiar with the system. Not to mention any vet they like is probably on another team and is going to cost them a pick. Cowboys already gave a 2017 5th to the Bills for Matt Cassell. We were missing a 5th this year because of the trade for Butler. A 5th this year would have gotten an edge player like Tyrone Holmes or defensive lineman Ronald Blair, rookie players that have looked better than fucking Ryan Russell.
Edit: Blair was taking one pick ahead of what would have been the Cowboys pick. My bad.
He still needs to work on his footwork and platform from which he throws. Still has a little hitch in his delivery that I think needs to be cleaned up. Haven't seen him drop back from center. Have not seen him throw into tight windows or throw antcipatory routes. Wish we could fast forward to next preseason and see if he makes significant improvement. It's hard to judge every aspect of QB play without all-22, but from what we have seen, Dak is dev project that looks promising. Nothing more imo.
I would rather have a vet as well, but the vet is going to take weeks to get familiar with the system. Not to mention any vet they like is probably on another team and is going to cost them a pick. Cowboys already gave a 2017 5th to the Bills for Matt Cassell. We were missing a 5th this year because of the trade for Butler. A 5th this year would have gotten an edge player like Tyrone Holmes or defensive lineman Ronald Blair, rookie players that have looked better than fucking Ryan Russell.
Edit: Blair was taking one pick ahead of what would have been the Cowboys pick. My bad.
Ninja Scooter
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What are the chances that the best rookie kicker is someone other than Roberto Aguayo?
Maybe even undrafted!!!
Dutch Gronk
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Dutch Gronk
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New season, new shirtless avatar.
Dutch Gronk
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Do you think Jimmy plays FF ?
zswordsman
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Dak and Boykin already look better so far :v but Boykin won't see anything after next week. Dak will probably be playing by mid season though.
FloydtheFathead
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Too many pats and Browns fans.. We need balance in the force
Chris friend.. Want to pick up another league hmm
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