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NFL Week 1 Thread - Pre-Season is over, ladies!

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Miguel

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WEEK 1

Thursday, Sep. 9
Indianapolis at New England, 9:00 pm

Sunday, Sep. 12
Arizona at St. Louis, 1:00 pm
Baltimore at Cleveland, 1:00 pm
Cincinnati at N.Y. Jets, 1:00 pm
Detroit at Chicago, 1:00 pm - Upset Special! (although, picking the 31st ranked team in the league over the 30th ranked team in the league isn't much of an upset)
Jacksonville at Buffalo, 1:00 pm
Oakland at Pittsburgh, 1:00 pm
San Diego at Houston, 1:00 pm
Seattle at New Orleans, 1:00 pm
Tampa Bay at Washington, 1:00 pm
Tennessee at Miami, 1:00 pm
Atlanta at San Francisco, 4:15 pm
Dallas at Minnesota, 4:15 pm
N.Y. Giants at Philadelphia, 4:15 pm
Kansas City at Denver, 8:30 pm

Monday, Sep. 13
Green Bay at Carolina, 9:00 pm - SLINGIN' AND SLANGIN'!

Reposting...I changed my Colts/Patriots pick. SI Cover Jinx get!
 

Fifty

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Thanks to Astro Ladders for giving me the hookup...I present to you....The Hookup

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page3/hookup/thehookup

It's an interview with Ray Lewis and Patti Labelle,


Here's a little teaser
Patti: That's what I'm saying. I might have lost a few million dollars because I didn't do things the way people thought I should. I see others getting things that I strived for that should be coming my way. But I made me. You know, like a made Mafia man? I'm a made woman.

Ray: My goodness, we are identical. I live by that.

http://espn.go.com/i/page3/wallpapers/lewis/01/wallpaper1920_blue_02.jpg
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
Ray: You know who Peyton Manning is?

Patti: Who?

Ray: The quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts. Father was Archie Manning, whatever ... He's the first player to get paid $40 million up front. There are certain people who know who they are. Who know it. Stats, numbers, they don't impress me. I don't live in a world of numbers. I asked my team's owner to give me the value of me and of Peyton Manning. He couldn't answer. See, there's a lot of black and white in that.

You figure out what Ray Lewis is Saying!

Is he saying that Peyton Manning is overpaid for his stats? (fifty's theory)

Is he pointing out that Peyton Manning is white and that, he, Ray Lewis is black? (my theory)

You can go a million ways!

What do you think Ray Lewis is saying?
 

Eminem

goddamit, Griese!
I take Fifty's theory....though that is untrue. Manning's numbers are incredible.
His QB rating for his entire career is something really close to 89. That's higher than Favre's career rating.

No offense to Ray-Ray, but a linebacker, no matter how good, should never, EVER be paid as much as a top tier QB. Ray makes some turnovers, makes a lot of tackles, brings a ton of intensity. Manning controls the entire offense, as well as makes plays.
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
Eminem said:
I take Fifty's theory....though that is untrue. Manning's numbers are incredible.
His QB rating for his entire career is something really close to 89. That's higher than Favre's career rating.

No offense to Ray-Ray, but a linebacker, no matter how good, should never, EVER be paid as much as a top tier QB. Ray makes some turnovers, makes a lot of tackles, brings a ton of intensity. Manning controls the entire offense, as well as makes plays.

I was kidding about my theory, btw.

I hope.
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
I mean, let's break it down:

"The quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts. Father was Archie Manning, whatever ..."- Pretty straightforward, explaining to Patti who Peyton is.

"He's the first player to get paid $40 million up front."- Describing Peyton's contract, got it.

"There are certain people who know who they are. Who know it."- What? Is he talking from a psychological standpoint, like there are people who have "discovered themselves?" Is he saying that people know who Peyton Manning is because of his contract? Who are these "certain people?"

"Stats, numbers, they don't impress me. I don't live in a world of numbers."- Got it, 'intangibles' are important.

"I asked my team's owner to give me the value of me and of Peyton Manning. He couldn't answer. See, there's a lot of black and white in that."- So what does it mean that the owner couldn't give the "value" of each player? Was he afraid that Lewis would beat the shit out of him if he told him what he thought? And how, in any meaning of the phrase (besides Peyton=white and Lewis=black) is any of this "black and white?"
 

methodman

Banned
HalfPastNoon said:
that whole list is a joke, except for the last team. they've been universally accepted as the worst team in the league.

lol.

Everyone hates on niners left and right on this forum, its kinda funny. I think niners are gona take the wildcard from whoever, and make it into the nfc championship!!

hehe
 
sucks that the "worst team in the league" is going to cause you to pay me $40 at the end of the year, even though you tried to skimp out on paying me the $20 from our bet last year :D

what were you thinking when you said you'd bet me the deadskins would finish w/ a better record than the niners? more importantly, what were you thinking when you bet me a second time this year? oh well, i guess not all of us enjoy money (you)
 

Miguel

Member
Speaking of...

HEY JACKASS! WHERE'S MY 20 bucks? Rockets finished witha MUCH better record than the Sonic KABOOOOMS
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
The Cardinals better than the Giants, Browns, and 49ers? That's crazy. Take the worst team in the league, then take the only bright spot away from them (Boldin) and what do you have? Potentially the worst team ever. I can't gauge the Dennis Green Effect and it's impossible to say how a new coach will impact a team (though he's already made more than a few seemingly boneheaded decisions, e.g. cutting Pete Kendall when all they have is a rookie center b/c he thought, wrongly, that Kendall was the one that complained to the Union about Green's practices violating the Collective Bargaining Agreement), but if Green's new disciplinarian approach backfires in even the slightest, the lack of talent is definitely there for this to be an 0-16 team.

That said, I would be pleasantly surprised if they were the 28th best team in the league next year.
 

effzee

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This team won 10 games a year ago and made some bold moves in the offseason that should pay off.


is that for real? same could apply to the eagles. they won 12 games last yr and made some bold moves during the off season (adding kearse, bringing back douglas, trotter, losing vincent, taylor, emmons, and duce, and brought in TO).

it applies to many teams.
 

Fifty

Member
AstroLad said:
The Cardinals better than the Giants, Browns, and 49ers? That's crazy. Take the worst team in the league, then take the only bright spot away from them (Boldin) and what do you have?


Remember, Shipp is gone as well :p
 

Slo

Member
AstroLad said:
The Cardinals better than the Giants, Browns, and 49ers? That's crazy.

The Cards were the best team in the NFL at the end of last year. They were just hitting their stride at the last game of the season.
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
Fifty said:
Remember, Shipp is gone as well :p

Oh yeah, how could I forget. We've got the Dallas Rejects heading what has always been a terrible position for the Cards. And, yeah, the Cards did beat the Vikings somehow, but I owe this more to the Vikes choking and the general wackiness of the last week than anything that could carry over to this season (well, until maybe the last game when they'll probably pull some huge upset that does nothing for them other than drop them three spots in the draft).
 

BlackMage

Banned
Slo said:
The Cards were the best team in the NFL at the end of last year. They were just hitting their stride at the last game of the season.

What the fuck are you talking about? Woohoo, they barely beat the Vikings!! What an accomplishment. The Vikings were on a losing streak.
 

Pimpwerx

Member
MIAMI vs Tennessee - *UPSET SPECIAL*
- Being a Dolfan has nothing to do with it....ok, it has EVERYTHING to do with it. We announced that crumb bum Fiedler as starter today, which is totally depressing. We have one of the most clueless coaches in the league. And our front office wouldn't know a blue chip from a chocolate chip. But we're going to the SupaBowl this year. Well, maybe not. But we'll be watching the SupaBowl this year at least. :D Woah are the Fins. The late-season collapse came in training camp. Maybe that means we're gonna catch fire late this year. That or the team could spontaneously combust in week 16. Whatever the case, we're up shit's creek, and I'm only picking us over the Tits b/c I'm picking the Fins over EVERYONE this year. Fins vs God? I pick the Fins by a field goal. :lol:

NEW ENGLAND vs Indianapolis
- I hate the Pats. I hate Bellicheck, although he's an awesome coach (please come to Miami when you're done in NE). But none of this has to do with them ass-raping the Colts this weekend. I fear the Pats are going all the way again...seriously. :(

BUFFALO vs Jacksonville
- Go Jags. I don't know who to pick here since I didn't follow preseason at all. But this seems like common sense to me. The Jags have something to prove. The Bills are still trying to emerge from mediocrity.

PITTSBURGH vs Oakland
- Who really cares? All I know is the Steelers suck.

CHICAGO vs Detroit
- I'm going with the Gator on this. Rex >>>>>> Joey. 300yds passing, and the Bears RUTS the shit out of the Pussies. Well, in my fantasy world, this comes to pass. :lol:

CLEVELAND vs Baltimore
- RayLew >>>>> soldiers. :lol:

WASHINGTON vs Tampa Bay
- Steve Spurrier built this team into the juggernaut it's about to come. ;) Yes, I'll tell myself that all season long. Darth Visor lives!!!

HOUSTON vs San Diego
- The Chargers are the Cleveland Clowns of the NFL....whoops already got one of those. Well, they suck all the same.

ST. LOUIS vs Arizona
- Nuff said.

NEW ORLEANS vs Seattle
- Thank god for Bourbon St, b/c there ain't much else to celebrate in NO. Ain't the Saints this year.

NEW YORK (NYJ) vs Cincinnati
- You heard it here first...yeah, I think I'm first at least. Upset special #2? Or will this look like common sense after Week 1? I'm betting the latter.

PHILADELPHIA vs New York (NYG)
- Eli Eli Oh. Eat shit Giants fans. :p

SAN FRANCISCO vs Atlanta
- San Fran's missing it's favorite fairy now with JGar trolling for ass in Cleveland. This will no doubt leave most of the team flacid, perfect for a Hotlanta Vick-tory. At least half an hour of Sportscenter needs to be devoted to Michael Vick this weekend. :D

MINNESOTA vs Dallas
- I hate the Tuna, but he hates losing even more. Sorry Vikes, you're ass is grass.

DENVER vs Kansas City
- They traded Portis...I can't believe they traded Portis. Finally someone to replace TD, and they trade him. Remember the pre-champion Broncos? Yup...welcome to Mediocrity, CO. Population: you. Denver jumped the shark when Elway retired.

CAROLINA vs Green Bay
- No, they're not gonna win the Super Bowl, or even make it there. But they'll leave a line of QB corpses in their wake none the less. Best D in the league? I'd say so. Wait a minute...make that the 2nd best D in the league. :D Check the avatar. :) PEACE.
 

Slo

Member
Jonny said:
What the fuck are you talking about? Woohoo, they barely beat the Vikings!! What an accomplishment. The Vikings were on a losing streak.

No sir, the Vikings were the second best team in the league in week 17. It's just unfortunate that fate force the two titans to collide at such a critical point in the playoff hunt.
 

Paradox

Member
Pimpwerx said:
DENVER vs Kansas City
- They traded Portis...I can't believe they traded Portis. Finally someone to replace TD, and they trade him. Remember the pre-champion Broncos? Yup...welcome to Mediocrity, CO. Population: you. Denver jumped the shark when Elway retired.


Umm your wrong, so very wrong. We've proven we can make any running back into a 1000 yarder with Mike Anderson and Orlandis Gary. We have 3 solid RBs to replace Portis (Q,Bell, and Hearst). Our D was top 3 material last year and we improved it by tons with the additions of DJ Williams, Lynch and Champ Bailey w/others. We still have Rod Smith; and hopefully this is the year where Lelie will shine. Watts looked excellend this preseason. Plummer did great last season with the exception of his injury (where he was out 4 games). We are far from mediocrity.
 
I don't think Denver is going to become mediocre from losing Portis...their defense will still be near the top, and they can get some production out of the backfield to take pressure off of Plummer.

As for their run game, Denver can get 1000-1200 yards out of a back, but there's a difference between a 1000 yard backs Anderson and Gary, and 1000 yard backs Davis and Portis. No one was gameplanning to stop Mike Anderson, but you can guarantee teams didn't look forward to facing Portis and his homerun ability.
 

Paradox

Member
Mmmm Portis was good but he was no TD. I still dont think he will do so great in Washington as he did here in Denver. For one thing he wont be facing bad defences twice a year (KC,Oakland and SD).
 

BlackMage

Banned
Slo said:
No sir, the Vikings were the second best team in the league in week 17. It's just unfortunate that fate force the two titans to collide at such a critical point in the playoff hunt.

you're delusional.
 
please, the portis haters, silence. he's rushing for 1800-2000 yards this year. have you all forgotten that gibbs is back?! there won't be a shitty Oline anymore in the capital city.
 

Slo

Member
Jonny said:
you're delusional.
You're a Seahawks fan. :D

I ask you, what's more likely:

1) That a dominant league powerhouse such as Minnesota completely implodes at the end of the season (yet again) and then hits rock bottom by losing to one of the worst teams in the league, missing the playoffs and going home humiliated?

OR

2) We've witnessed the long overdue resurrection of the Cardinals franchise, lead by future Hall of Fame quarterback Josh McCown?

I think we can agree that #2 is the obvious answer.
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
Slo said:
You're a Seahawks fan. :D

I ask you, what's more likely:

1) That a dominant league powerhouse such as Minnesota completely implodes at the end of the season (yet again) and then hits rock bottom by losing to one of the worst teams in the league, missing the playoffs and going home humiliated?

OR

2) We've witnessed the long overdue resurrection of the Cardinals franchise, lead by future Hall of Fame quarterback Josh McCown?

I think we can agree that #2 is the obvious answer.

Um, considering the fact that #2 is the least likely thing to happen in all of sports, I'd have to go with #1, whatever it is. The Cardinals had their anomaly season for the next 50 years when Plummer & Co. beat an aging Cowboys team and then got slaughtered in the next round. This team right now is barely even half as good as the not-CFL-ready team they fielded last year. That said, if they were to somehow upset the Rams or go on a little 2 or god-forbid 3 game winning streak this season, I would be the first one cheering, but you gotta be realistic about this shit. This isn't the Patriots or the Rams. It's not even the Atlanta Hawks for crying out loud.
 

Slo

Member
AstroLad said:
Um, considering the fact that #2 is the least likely thing to happen in all of sports, I'd have to go with #1, whatever it is. The Cardinals had their anomaly season for the next 50 years when Plummer & Co. beat an aging Cowboys team and then got slaughtered in the next round. This team right now is barely even half as good as the not-CFL-ready team they fielded last year. That said, if they were to somehow upset the Rams or go on a little 2 or god-forbid 3 game winning streak this season, I would be the first one cheering, but you gotta be realistic about this shit. This isn't the Patriots or the Rams. It's not even the Atlanta Hawks for crying out loud.

LIES
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
Ravens Rank #6

That ranking I don't have a problem with... but Chester and Musa ran really well during pre-season... while Jamal didn't. In an article today though he says he doesn't really get up for pre-season games, try to run all out, or do the things he normally does... we'll see in the opener against Cleveland... who is already going to be looking to stop him cold.
 
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