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[Future Trunks]

Its the curse. I told panthers fans the team would not make the playoffs this year immediatly after the championship game.

Pffft! That's nothing! Bucs fans told them that just before they won the NFC South title.

 

[DJ_Tet]

How is this a "what goes around, comes around" situation? We already set the damn record with 15 straight losses. If anything, we're OWED a damn Super Bowl after this trash.

 

[Eminem]

over yes. texans will not win, guaranteed.

 

[DJ_Tet]

Already down to 10 players because of injury, Emeka Okafor and Jason Hart both left the game with ankle injuries, and Primoz Brezec was bothered by a sore shoulder that had him playing with just one arm.

"It's those damn (Carolina) Panthers -- it's contagious and they passed it on," said Bobcats coach Bernie Bickerstaff, referring to Charlotte's NFL team, which has 11 players out for the year.

It's spreading...

 

[Future Trunks]

How is this a "what goes around, comes around" situation? We already set the damn record with 15 straight losses. If anything, we're OWED a damn Super Bowl after this trash.

What record? Longest losing streak since the creation of the 16 game sched? Considering the Bucs went 0-26 I believe....

 

[DJ_Tet]

Yeah, the only team to lose 15 straight games in one season.

I forgot about the 0-14 Bucs, but you guys got a Super Bowl. All angst should be done. I don't think the Panthers "deserve" what's happened this year due to making a Super Bowl, especially since we were just two years removed from the longest losing streak in one season. Of course, in sports, you don't "deserve" anything and I of all people understand that. It's just frustrating, and people saying "you deserve it for last year" just are uninformed of our history.

 

[firex]

theduce (or as we really know him, thedouche) is one of those rabid eagles fans. he still says it was a 'late hit' on mcnabb in last year's nfc championship game that let the panthers win (despite the eagles playing like shit before that) so take everything he says with a grain of salt. at least the other eagles fans in these threads aren't nearly as insanely militant about their choke artist team.

 

[DJ_Tet]

Oh, I know all about him.

I'll even admit, during the game I screamed "Good late hit!" and prayed there would be no flag. Of course, as we all saw on the replay, McNabb tripped over his own lineman and was trying to get back up once he got leveled. Blame the refs, not the roided up freaks playing in the heat of the moment. Had McNabb simply layed down, he most likely would have gotten an Unecessary Roughness flag. But as you admit, the Panthers were dominating that game with or without McNabb.

 

[soulja224466]

What crackhead chose to air the TB/ATL game over the seattle/rams game today? I hate the games they show here in VA, its either redskins or falcons all the time.

 

[DMczaf]

What crackhead chose to air the TB/ATL game over the seattle/rams game today? I hate the games they show here in VA, its either redskins or falcons all the time.

Bah, I got the crappy Seahawks/Rams game. Let's switch

Griese will take us to the promise land!

 

[TheDuce22]

at least the other eagles fans in these threads aren't nearly as insanely militant about their choke artist team.

You havent met enough eagles fans if you think Im that bad. Anyone could see the panthers were a one hit wonder. Alot of preseason power rankings didnt even have them in the top 5 coming off a superbowl appearance.

Of course, as we all saw on the replay, McNabb tripped over his own lineman and was trying to get back up once he got leveled.

Way to ignore the fact that the defensive player grabbed Mcnabbs foot, thats what brought him down. You could see it clearly on the replay.

 

[J2 Cool]

Man, Simmons completely trashed Manning. Check this out

Indianapolis (5-3) -- They remind me of those Spurs and Nuggets teams from the early '80's: Entertaining to watch, unstoppable at times, impossible to take seriously. Barring a serious collapse from the Pats or Steelers, they aren't getting anything higher than a third seed, which means they would have to win back-to-back games in New England and Pittsburgh in January. Not happening.

(Random note: I love this revisionist claim that Manning keeps calling these audibles at the line as a savvy way to extend their time of possession and keep Indy's defense off the field. Gimme a break. He's always done this! EA Sports even mocked him in "Madden 2005" this season by having Video Peyton audibling relentlessly. Personally, I think he has some mutant form of Nomar's OCD -- those audibles are the equivalent of Nomar changing his batting gloves like a psychopath before every pitch. The man needs to be medicated. He's going insane.)

(And how is the team better off with him changing the plays every down? Why even employ an offensive coordinator then? Imagine being a Colts o-lineman stuck in the three-point stance for 40 seconds per play? Wouldn't you want to throw a hair dryer into his whirlpool after the game? I've had it with this guy. If he breaks Marino's TD record, that would be almost as bad as Bonds breaking Hank Aaron's record with a size 9 3/4 head. Like Marino wouldn't have thrown 70 TDs in his prime with these passing rules and Indy's defense constantly putting him back on the field. But please, keep calling Manning the MVP over Brady and McNabb ... wins and losses clearly shouldn't matter.)

(Seriously ... I'm getting angry. I might need to take a walk.)

(Deep breath.)

I don't get the hate. There's nothing wrong with Manning breaking the record.

 

[DJ_Tet]

Way to ignore the fact that the defensive player grabbed Mcnabbs foot, thats what brought him down. You could see it clearly on the replay.

IF that was indeed what brought him down (it wasn't, but let's just go with it for a sec), then you have to blame the ref for not blowing the play dead. If there had been a whistle, McRibb wouldn't have gotten hit. There was no whistle, he tripped over his own player, and he was trying to get up to keep playing. Legal play. Sorry.


And a big reason the Panthers weren't Top 5 was the Super Bowl Curse, not anything to do with the Panthers themselves. Of course the fact that our O-Line was decimated didn't help either.

 

[DJ_Tet]

Man, Simmons completely trashed Manning. Check this out

I'm not digging Simmons recently, like the last two months or so. I used to be a huge fan, but now more than ever he sounds like a petty fanboy. He hasn't failed to take a shot at Carolina in his columns, even though "his team" won, and now he's tearing down all of "his team's" competition with just vitriol and not wit. He still has his moments, but overall he seems to be grasping at straws.

 

[EAJAPAN]

Tampa Bay @ Atlanta
Chicago @ Tennessee
Seattle @ St. Louis
Baltimore @ New York jets
Kansas City @ New Orleans
Detroit @ Jacksonville
Houston @ Indianapolis
Pittsburgh @ Cleveland
Cincinnatti @ Washington
Carolina @ San Francisco
Buffalo @ New England

Philadelphia @ Dallas

I'm almost tempted to take Buffalo, but.....

 

[TheDuce22]

IF that was indeed what brought him down (it wasn't, but let's just go with it for a sec), then you have to blame the ref for not blowing the play dead.

I dont HAVE to blame anyone person. There were quite a few people at fault. Tre Thomas for not holding his block till he heard the whistle, cant really fault him much since he saw (along with anyone who viewed the replay) Mcnabb tripped up by the defender. The ref for not blowing the whistle. Mcnabb for rolling into that position. None of this changes the fact that it was still a late hit and pretty much the definition of unnessicary roughness. The football gods are punishing your team accordingly.

There was no whistle, he tripped over his own player, and he was trying to get up to keep playing.

Is this a joke? I can understand a fan not wanting to admit that their team is full of cheapshot artists but there is no way you can tell me you actually believe Mcnabb was trying to get back up. Unless he was planning on springing up Shawn Micheals style and doing it in slow motion you are wrong. Btw, a quick look on any search engine will show you the truth. You seem to have a very skewed view of what actually happened.

No penalty was called on Favors' hit, although McNabb was on the ground for two seconds or so before Favors pounced on him. Officials ruled that McNabb was not down by contact, but television replays showed that Rucker grabbed McNabb's foot to send him to the ground.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/7743146.htm?1c

 

[DJ_Tet]

I dont HAVE to blame anyone person. There were quite a few people at fault. Tre Thomas for not holding his block till he heard the whistle, cant really fault him much since he saw (along with anyone who viewed the replay) Mcnabb tripped up by the defender. The ref for not blowing the whistle. Mcnabb for rolling into that position. None of this changes the fact that it was still a late hit and pretty much the definition of unnessicary roughness. The football gods are punishing your team accordingly.



Is this a joke? I can understand a fan not wanting to admit that their team is full of cheapshot artists but there is no way you can tell me you actually believe Mcnabb was trying to get back up. Unless he was planning on springing up Shawn Micheals style and doing it in slow motion you are wrong. Btw, a quick look on any search engine will show you the truth. You seem to have a very skewed view of what actually happened.



http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/7743146.htm?1c

I've got the game on DVD. McNabb tripped over his own lineman's foot, and by rule wasn't down until a Panther touched him.

But yeah, the Eagles really "controlled the run" last week. My fantasy team with the Bus thanks you.

 

[TheDuce22]

http://www.courierpostonline.com/columnists/cxro011904a.htm

But really the biggest blow might have been a blatantly late hit by Panthers linebacker Greg Favors that knocked McNabb out of the game.

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/special/04/sb/2360243

McNabb's injury occurred when he was sacked by Panthers defensive end Michael Rucker, who blew past the line of scrimmage and knocked McNabb to the ground moments after he took the snap from center. McNabb fell and was drilled by Favors while on the ground.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/7743146.htm?1c

No penalty was called on Favors' hit, although McNabb was on the ground for two seconds or so before Favors pounced on him. Officials ruled that McNabb was not down by contact, but television replays showed that Rucker grabbed McNabb's foot to send him to the ground.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/football/nfl/specials/playoffs/2003/01/18/mcnabb.injury.ap/

McNabb was sacked eight times last week by the Packers, and the most painful one this week came when Mike Rucker burst quickly through the line, sending McNabb tumbling backward onto the turf in the second quarter. Linebacker Greg Favors, unsure if the play was over, then jumped on and sent McNabb into an awkward roll, bending McNabb's left leg into the quarterback's chest.

That took all of 2 minuets. Not to mention the fact that i have seen it along with almost everyone here and Rucker clearly grabs his foot. Who are you trying to convince?

 

[DJ_Tet]

I'll never convince you.

I'm going to stop trying. Perhaps you should watch the game again. I really could care less what national columnists write about a game between Philly and Charlotte. I saw it with my own eyes. Rucker's hand is also known as your tackle's foot.

 

[TheDuce22]

I'm going to stop trying. Perhaps you should watch the game again. I really could care less what national columnists write about a game between Philly and Charlotte. I saw it with my own eyes.

Your wrong. This is not a matter of opinion. You cant convince me of this for the same reason you cant convince me the sky is purple or the world is flat. Get your eyes checked and watch the tape again. You think all these people just imagined Rucker getting the sack?

 

[J2 Cool]

I'm not digging Simmons recently, like the last two months or so. I used to be a huge fan, but now more than ever he sounds like a petty fanboy. He hasn't failed to take a shot at Carolina in his columns, even though "his team" won, and now he's tearing down all of "his team's" competition with just vitriol and not wit. He still has his moments, but overall he seems to be grasping at straws.

Since the Red Sox won, havent much liked a column after it. And he put the Bears in the no chance column. Bastard!

 

[Miguel]

I guess we found our Konex in this thread. :lol

Carr and Johnson will have career days today. GO IN IANAPOLIS' EFENSE!!

 

[Cloudy]

Help me, GA. Should I start Roth or Hasselback today? I always go with experience over rookie flash but Seattle's WRs are all banged up and Alexander will run all over the Rams anyways.

I'm going up against Peyton but I have 2 Colts WRs on my team as well so for them to get pts, Manning must get pts >_<

 

[DarienA]

Arguing with TheDuce about anything related to the Eagles, pointing out stats, etc... simply not worth it.

 

[Willco]

Going to the 'Skins game to go tailgate in an hour, guys. Tell you how victory feels when I get back home late tonight.

 

[Eminem]

Since the Red Sox won, havent much liked a column after it. And he put the Bears in the no chance column. Bastard!

Yep. I loved his Red Sox stuff...but after that he hasn't had a good article. And now he's starting to sound like one of us :lol

If he breaks Marino's TD record, that would be almost as bad as Bonds breaking Hank Aaron's record with a size 9 3/4 head.

GIANT WTF

 

[Unresponsive Bee Victim]

Originally Posted by Unresponsive Bee Victim:
Buffalo at New England, 8:30 p.m.


Good men.

As a Buffalo Resident I have too take them, this is the season tonight,
8 hours 3 minutes till the game.....

 

[Ripclawe]

FIGHT FIGHT!!!!

Joey Porter vs some Browns player pregame, fists were thrown!!!!

 

[Unresponsive Bee Victim]

FIGHT FIGHT!!!!

I just saw it on CBS, dammit, I wish I ahd that game instead of the Jets game, even if it is huge for the Bills if the jets lose.

 

[Chesapeake Silt]

Yeah, that was cool. Porter was taking some real swings. :lol

That game is going to be fun.

 

[Miguel]

Yeah, that was cool. Porter was taking some real swings. :lol

That game is going to be fun.

I hope DA BUS goes nuts...I put him in on my fantasy team again.

 

[Shinobi]

WEEK 10

Sunday, Nov. 14

Baltimore at N.Y. Jets, 1:00 p.m.
Chicago at Tennessee, 1:00 p.m.
Detroit at Jacksonville, 1:00 p.m.
Houston at Indianapolis, 1:00 p.m.
Kansas City at New Orleans, 1:00 p.m.
Pittsburgh at Cleveland, 1:00 p.m.
Seattle at St. Louis, 1:00 p.m.
Tampa Bay at Atlanta, 1:00 p.m.
Cincinnati at Washington, 4:05 p.m.
Carolina at San Francisco, 4:15 p.m.
Minnesota at Green Bay, 4:15 p.m.
N.Y. Giants at Arizona, 4:15 p.m.
Buffalo at New England, 8:30 p.m.

Monday, Nov. 15

Philadelphia at Dallas, 9:00 p.m.

 

[jobber]

What crackhead chose to air the TB/ATL game over the seattle/rams game today? I hate the games they show here in VA, its either redskins or falcons all the time.

I did. I haven't seen a Bucs game in a couple of weeks.

Edit: Oh yea, I've heard the NFL hasn't accepted ABC's MNF Football offer to keep it on ABC because Fox is offering more money for the rights.

True?

 

[Chesapeake Silt]

Porter and Green got ejected for that fight.

 

[firex]

ok, wtf? cbs is showing fucking GOLF instead of steelers/browns or colts/texans? whose fucking bright idea was this? staring at goatse is less painful and more entertaining than watching golf.

 

[Cloudy]

Thanks for NOTHING, guys! I started Roth

 

[Maverick]

This is not a good trade-off for the Steelers. Green sucks and they'll run Suggs anyway....Porter is the heart and soul of our defense.

Step it up Steelers.

 

[Archaix]

If they get Porter taken out, we should get to choose like four Browns to sit. Only fair.

ok, wtf? cbs is showing fucking GOLF instead of steelers/browns or colts/texans? whose fucking bright idea was this? staring at goatse is less painful and more entertaining than watching golf.

Fox has the double header this week, so I would presume that you have a local team playing a late game today.


FUCK. FUCK FUCK FUCK. FUCK. Hines fucking tripped. FUCK.

 

[Maverick]

Ward gets tripped and the Browns pick one off.....This game seems like the ultimate trap....

duck. cover. regroup. attack.

 

[Cloudy]

Peyton is too good

OMG, why didn't I go with Hasselback?

 

[Wellington]

Awesome stop by the Jets after getting almost run over by the Ravens offense (wtf?). Boller almost had that one.

 

[firex]

If they get Porter taken out, we should get to choose like four Browns to sit. Only fair.



Fox has the double header this week, so I would presume that you have a local team playing a late game today.


FUCK. FUCK FUCK FUCK. FUCK. Hines fucking tripped. FUCK.

yeah, but the retarded thing is the browns AND the bengals are my local teams. oh well, figures on the one week where a CBS doubleheader is actually good, fox gets it so they can play two worthless NFC games.

 

[Eminem]

sigh...why did i choose to bench stokley this week?

 

[Cloudy]

sigh...why did i choose to bench stokley this week?

WTF, why would you EVER bench a colts WR or TE? They're all liable to catch a TD pass EVERY WEEK :lol

 

[firex]

my guess is Eminem has antonio gates or something. that's about the only way I'd bench stokley.

 

[Future Trunks]

Dang Vick running! Brooks, where are you?? You're supposed to be the spy for vick!

 

[Eminem]

nope, i'm just stupid. gates has a bye this week anyway =/
stokley hasnt done anything the last two weeks, so i started wayne


also, :lol :lol @ randy cross ripping the texans line

 

[Phoenix]

Falcons pushing the Buccs already. An unleashed Vick returns to being a threat on the football field. Hopefully the offensive coordinator will never try to turn him into a pocket passer again.

 

[Tamanon]

All I've got showing here is the Colts/Texans. My Jags are blacked out But DAMN! Yet another fumble....that's at least 4 so far this game.

 

[firex]

wow, first falcons game I've gotten all season and I can see why people were saying their defense looks good this year. at least on that drive it was crazy compared to last year.