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NFL Week 11 - May the better Man(ning) win.
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WEEK 11
Sunday, Nov. 21
Arizona at Carolina, 1:00 p.m.
Dallas at Baltimore, 1:00 p.m.
Denver at New Orleans, 1:00 p.m.
Detroit at Minnesota, 1:00 p.m.
Indianapolis at Chicago, 1:00 p.m.
N.Y. Jets at Cleveland, 1:00 p.m.
Pittsburgh at Cincinnati, 1:00 p.m.
San Francisco at Tampa Bay, 1:00 p.m.
St. Louis at Buffalo, 1:00 p.m.
Tennessee at Jacksonville, 1:00 p.m.
Miami at Seattle, 4:05 p.m.
San Diego at Oakland, 4:05 p.m.
Atlanta at N.Y. Giants, 4:15 p.m.
Washington at Philadelphia, 4:15 p.m.
Green Bay at Houston, 8:30 p.m.
Monday, Nov. 22
New England at Kansas City, 9:00 p.m.
Sunday, Nov. 21
Arizona at Carolina, 1:00 p.m.
Dallas at Baltimore, 1:00 p.m.
Denver at New Orleans, 1:00 p.m.
Detroit at Minnesota, 1:00 p.m.
Indianapolis at Chicago, 1:00 p.m.
N.Y. Jets at Cleveland, 1:00 p.m.
Pittsburgh at Cincinnati, 1:00 p.m.
San Francisco at Tampa Bay, 1:00 p.m.
St. Louis at Buffalo, 1:00 p.m.
Tennessee at Jacksonville, 1:00 p.m.
Miami at Seattle, 4:05 p.m.
San Diego at Oakland, 4:05 p.m.
Atlanta at N.Y. Giants, 4:15 p.m.
Washington at Philadelphia, 4:15 p.m.
Green Bay at Houston, 8:30 p.m.
Monday, Nov. 22
New England at Kansas City, 9:00 p.m.
WEEK 11
Sunday, Nov. 21
Arizona at Carolina, 1:00 p.m.
Dallas at Baltimore, 1:00 p.m.
Denver at New Orleans, 1:00 p.m.
Detroit at Minnesota, 1:00 p.m.
Indianapolis at Chicago, 1:00 p.m.
N.Y. Jets at Cleveland, 1:00 p.m.
Pittsburgh at Cincinnati, 1:00 p.m.
San Francisco at Tampa Bay, 1:00 p.m.
St. Louis at Buffalo, 1:00 p.m.
Tennessee at Jacksonville, 1:00 p.m.
Miami at Seattle, 4:05 p.m.
San Diego at Oakland, 4:05 p.m.
Atlanta at N.Y. Giants, 4:15 p.m.
Washington at Philadelphia, 4:15 p.m.
Green Bay at Houston, 8:30 p.m.
Monday, Nov. 22
New England at Kansas City, 9:00 p.m.
Last Week: 7 - 7
Season: 79 - 49
Sunday, Nov. 21
Arizona at Carolina, 1:00 p.m.
Dallas at Baltimore, 1:00 p.m.
Denver at New Orleans, 1:00 p.m.
Detroit at Minnesota, 1:00 p.m.
Indianapolis at Chicago, 1:00 p.m.
N.Y. Jets at Cleveland, 1:00 p.m.
Pittsburgh at Cincinnati, 1:00 p.m.
San Francisco at Tampa Bay, 1:00 p.m.
St. Louis at Buffalo, 1:00 p.m.
Tennessee at Jacksonville, 1:00 p.m.
Miami at Seattle, 4:05 p.m.
San Diego at Oakland, 4:05 p.m.
Atlanta at N.Y. Giants, 4:15 p.m.
Washington at Philadelphia, 4:15 p.m.
Green Bay at Houston, 8:30 p.m.
Monday, Nov. 22
New England at Kansas City, 9:00 p.m.
Last Week: 7 - 7
Season: 79 - 49
Wellington
BAAAALLLINNN'
Matlock said:
Well no shit.
Vinny Testaverde >>>>>>> Peyton Manning.
I think Carr is the best QB out of that set, though.
Wellington
BAAAALLLINNN'
Matlock said:One seven to rule them all!
Kerry Collins > Jon Kitna > Roethlisberger
It's true.
Miguel said:
Listen to this man !! My picks
Arizona at Carolina, 1:00 p.m.
Dallas at Baltimore, 1:00 p.m.
Denver at New Orleans, 1:00 p.m.
Detroit at Minnesota, 1:00 p.m.
Indianapolis at Chicago, 1:00 p.m.
N.Y. Jets at Cleveland, 1:00 p.m.
Pittsburgh at Cincinnati, 1:00 p.m.
San Francisco at Tampa Bay, 1:00 p.m.
St. Louis at Buffalo, 1:00 p.m.
Tennessee at Jacksonville, 1:00 p.m.
Miami at Seattle, 4:05 p.m.
San Diego at Oakland, 4:05 p.m.
Atlanta at N.Y. Giants, 4:15 p.m.
Washington at Philadelphia, 4:15 p.m.
Green Bay at Houston, 8:30 p.m.
Monday, Nov. 22
New England at Kansas City, 9:00 p.m
WEEK 11
Sunday, Nov. 21
Arizona at Carolina, 1:00 p.m.
Dallas at Baltimore, 1:00 p.m.
Denver at New Orleans, 1:00 p.m.
Detroit at Minnesota, 1:00 p.m.
Indianapolis at Chicago, 1:00 p.m.
N.Y. Jets at Cleveland, 1:00 p.m.
Pittsburgh at Cincinnati, 1:00 p.m.
San Francisco at Tampa Bay, 1:00 p.m.
St. Louis at Buffalo, 1:00 p.m.
Tennessee at Jacksonville, 1:00 p.m.
Miami at Seattle, 4:05 p.m.
San Diego at Oakland, 4:05 p.m.
Atlanta at N.Y. Giants, 4:15 p.m.
Washington at Philadelphia, 4:15 p.m.
Green Bay at Houston, 8:30 p.m.
Monday, Nov. 22
New England at Kansas City, 9:00 p.m.
Pittsburgh will start loosing soon. They are hot but its not the best time of the season to get hot. I hate how everyone is jumping on their wagon. I don't hate them or anything but things will catch up to them.
I'm geting tired of those hero/incredible adversity stories that the channels show each week. Seems like theres like ten of them every weekend. They're going to run out of players soon.
Sunday, Nov. 21
Arizona at Carolina, 1:00 p.m.
Dallas at Baltimore, 1:00 p.m.
Denver at New Orleans, 1:00 p.m.
Detroit at Minnesota, 1:00 p.m.
Indianapolis at Chicago, 1:00 p.m.
N.Y. Jets at Cleveland, 1:00 p.m.
Pittsburgh at Cincinnati, 1:00 p.m.
San Francisco at Tampa Bay, 1:00 p.m.
St. Louis at Buffalo, 1:00 p.m.
Tennessee at Jacksonville, 1:00 p.m.
Miami at Seattle, 4:05 p.m.
San Diego at Oakland, 4:05 p.m.
Atlanta at N.Y. Giants, 4:15 p.m.
Washington at Philadelphia, 4:15 p.m.
Green Bay at Houston, 8:30 p.m.
Monday, Nov. 22
New England at Kansas City, 9:00 p.m.
Pittsburgh will start loosing soon. They are hot but its not the best time of the season to get hot. I hate how everyone is jumping on their wagon. I don't hate them or anything but things will catch up to them.
I'm geting tired of those hero/incredible adversity stories that the channels show each week. Seems like theres like ten of them every weekend. They're going to run out of players soon.
Holy sh*t SI's Peter King is picking Dallas over the Ravens... dems fightin words! He does have a decent record of pickin em... Last week: 10-4 Overall: 78-51
yodathesoda
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KilledByBill
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I give you props for the Lupin avatar, but you can't seriously believe that. It takes years to find out how good a QB really is. This year we're finally starting to see what Carr is capable of, he hadn't thrown more than 9 TD's in his first 2 years. And as for Mike Vick, he's a human highlight real but still a better running back than a QB. The jury is still out on Palmer and Eli, though at this point the only roadblocks on the way to success seems to be their defense and offensive line respectively.
Ramirez said:Man ain't that the truth! :O
The last two times you've played us... you've lost that includes one in Bmore and one in Pitt. Yes Maddox was in til the 3rd quarter. Ben did score one TD and then Pitt also had 2 FGs... It's way to early to start talking up that game just yet though.... Enjoy the next two weeks of playing lightweights. Anybody can lose.. even to lightweights...
I can only see 2 games of the remaining for the steelers that they have a chance of losing: @ jacksonville and hosting the ravens.
as far as carson palmer goes, he's going to need at least another 2 years, probably even more than that, to really develop into a good QB. he can throw decently now, but he's horrible at seeing defenses and tends to wind up focusing on just one receiver for the majority of his passes (and it's not always chad johnson!). Basically when he gets a completion he tends to keep trying with that guy, although at least he's aware enough to throw to someone else if they're open and his main guy is covered.
as far as carson palmer goes, he's going to need at least another 2 years, probably even more than that, to really develop into a good QB. he can throw decently now, but he's horrible at seeing defenses and tends to wind up focusing on just one receiver for the majority of his passes (and it's not always chad johnson!). Basically when he gets a completion he tends to keep trying with that guy, although at least he's aware enough to throw to someone else if they're open and his main guy is covered.
firex said:
I don't see the Steelers losing to the Ravens. Neither of those teams gets swept in a division series. The Jets, Giants, Jaguars, and Bills are all going to be tough games. The big positive for Pittsburgh is that two of those teams have injured (at the moment) quarterbacks, and the other two have rookies playing (Or, at least, the Bills will by the time week 17 rolls around). I don't know that I'd take any of them over the Steelers. Until they play a really weak game again, I can't see any team beating the Steelers right now aside from the Patriots, with whom another game would be a tossup.
Ahah! Finally the subpar play of Ray Lewis is getting attention!
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/writers/dr_z/11/17/drz.rankings/index.html
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/writers/dr_z/11/17/drz.rankings/index.html
Spectral Glider
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DarienA said:
2-3-BAL3 (13:14) B.Roethlisberger pass to A.Randle El for 3 yards, TOUCHDOWN. PENALTY on BLT-E.Reed, Unsportsmanlike Conduct, 15 yards, enforced between downs.
J.Reed extra point is GOOD, Center-M.Schneck, Holder-C.Gardocki.
PIT 7 BAL 23, Plays: 10 Yards: 64 Possession: 4:35.
2-10-BAL12 (6:15) (Shotgun) B.Roethlisberger pass to H.Ward for 12 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
TWO-POINT CONVERSION ATTEMPT. B.Roethlisberger pass to P.Burress is incomplete. ATTEMPT FAILS.
PIT 13 BAL 23, Plays: 9 Yards: 70 Possession: 2:19
Nah, trust me, the Giants aren't a big enough threat. They're an above-average team but their defense isn't as strong as it was earlier, and unless Eli really is good enough to keep the starting job with that horrible o-line, we'll see them run the ball a lot more, which the steelers are good enough to contain. It'd have to be a pretty big collapse for the steelers not to beat the giants, jets or bills, although the latter two have better defenses. I don't know why but the Jets are a totally different team without chad pennington, it's like they just don't play well at all when he's out. The bills just aren't a good enough team...Archaix said:
The ravens game could be a potential loss if (and only if) their offense starts to pick it up after this last game they had. Defensively I'd say the two teams are just about even (the ravens are better, but not much better) so it's just a matter of whether or not Kyle Boller actually does something. The reason I say the Jags game is a potential loss is because they're good enough, and it wouldn't require a total breakdown like it would for the Giants to win.
I don't really see any team beating the Steelers right now, either. Not even the Pats... I just think the Steelers finally figured out how to beat the Pats' offense, and as long as Duce is healthy they seem like they can pretty easily keep the game in control, especially if they get the lead early.
It's not really a tossup to me on the two games in their schedule I think they could lose, it's just a lot more contingent on the steelers playing badly and the ravens/jags playing as best as they can. So it's even worse than a tossup. I just don't see them realistically losing to any of the other teams they play for the rest of the season - granted, like they say, any week anything can happen, but the other teams they have to play just haven't played on the steelers' level in any facet of the game.
BlackClouds
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I can only hope the Colts stampede comes to a town near you. Chicago's asshole is going to be THIS BIG, gaping wide even when the Colts get done running through. Forget the rest of the games, they mean nothing to me. Don't miss this massacre.
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
KilledByBill said:
For the 4 QBs in that list:
Manning>Vick>Carr>Eli
Manning turns into a scrub in big games, but he is a good QB. Vick is great at how HE plays QB. He can make the throw when needed, but that extra factor of being able to take off if the coverage is too good, instead of throwing it away, is worth something. Carr is a good QB as well. When he actually has time to throw, he can pick you apart. I would love to see Carr behind a good O-line. Texans O-line is just disgraceful. Eli has not played at all. He is a huge question mark. We don't know how he will handle the pressure and handle the team when the game mean something.
Spectral Glider said:
Thanks I took a quick look at the score from another page and saw the 13, didn't actually check the stats.
Fact is Ben did well... you guys still lost... and our secondary has played much better since then... USUALLY.
Fixed2BeBroken
Member
dskillzhtown said:
peyton is a GREAT QB.....but i think Vick, if he keeps improving himself, can be the jordan of football and also, Vick has and always has had a Shit-tacular O-line.
peace
Spectral Glider
Member
DarienA said:Thanks I took a quick look at the score from another page and saw the 13, didn't actually check the stats.
Fact is Ben did well... you guys still lost... and our secondary has played much better since then... USUALLY.
Just clarifying the stats. Also good to note is that Ben only played for a little over a quarter and a half in that game. But, he also did throw the game ending INT with about 3 minutes left. Given the circumstances, he played very well. Both teams are playing very differently from when they first met however. And still much football to be played before they meet again.
Whenever the Ravens and Steelers hook up, it's a tough game, regardless of stats, standings, whatever. I always like to point out that the last team to beat the Ravens the year they won the Super Bowl was the Steelers, 9-6 at the end of Oct. in a massive defensive battle. Steelers missed the playoffs by one game that year, I was dying to see what they could have done if they got in. They were 4-1 down the stretch. That's all water under the bridge now though. Even though there was that minor fight before the cleveland game, the big rivalry in the north currently is Steelers/Ravens, without a doubt.
Luscious LeftFoot
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I've given up on the Bills...
I'm predicting they lose 42 to 3.
I'm predicting they lose 42 to 3.
KilledByBill said:
I'm talking about how they are this year, not overall potential.
In the end, though, I figure the rankings will go like so:
Vick > Carr > Manning > Palmer
Vick will be awesome his whole career.
Carr will be solid overall, a true workhorse.
Manning...he has the talent, but whether or not he'll keep the mental game is still in the air.
Palmer's going to be above-average his entire career, and that's about it.
Wellington
BAAAALLLINNN'
It's time.
I predict we will lose our next two games though (Atlanta and Philly). I will stick to my guns from earlier this season when I said I'd be happy if they just won five games, topping last season's win total. In 11 more years we'll be undefeated.
Whatever happens tomorrow, I'll stick by my boy Eli. I stuck with Tiki Barber in his early fmbling days, and then he grew into a great fumbler, and then finally a great RB.
Wellington
BAAAALLLINNN'
firex said:
Damn dude, the Giants aren't that bad. But with our two star defenders out tomorrow (Wilson and Strahan) you are right about the D. The Giants are just hideously up and down. I thought Coughlin would have fixed that, but I guess not. /me glares at Cardinals, Bears.
If you pressure the QB, you win against the Giants, it's that easy, it even works in Madden for fucks sake. :lol Sucks we have Philly, Atlanta, Pittsburgh, and Baltimore still on the schedule. :/
Also, score more than 14 points. We can't get more than that. :lol
I'd still have the Giants as true SB contenders if their D wasn't so injured, and IMO they're the third best NFC team (it's just that the NFC is in such sad shape that means I can't really expect them to be big contenders - I mean Philly is the best NFC team and I still think they can't beat the AFC's best). You know better than I do (since I'm positive you watched the games, while I don't think I even got half of them) that they should have won the last 3 they lost... but most of that's to blame on Kurt Warner and/or just bad play all-around. I just don't expect Eli to have a huge breakout game tomorrow. He'll do better than Warner if only because he won't stand still and hold on to the ball for 45 seconds... so I'd expect the Giants to make the wild card at the very least (I forget which division they're in, is it the east with Philly or another division?) and probably wind up finishing 10-6 at best, 9-7 at worst (even with that tough schedule). I'd just be very, very surprised if they make it past the first game in the playoffs, unless they go up against one of the truly crappy NFC teams like the Seahawks or the Rams. They aren't SB contenders this year but they're definitely looking to head in the right direction as long as Tiki stays as fumble-free as he's been this season.
btw all, Sean Salisbury is full of shit. A couple days ago on sportscenter he was asked who were the best NFC teams and he said the best was philly (no duh) and the second best was GREEN BAY. they're at best the 4th or 5th best NFC team, tied for crappiness with the Rams/Seahawks and behind Philly, ATL and the Giants.
btw all, Sean Salisbury is full of shit. A couple days ago on sportscenter he was asked who were the best NFC teams and he said the best was philly (no duh) and the second best was GREEN BAY. they're at best the 4th or 5th best NFC team, tied for crappiness with the Rams/Seahawks and behind Philly, ATL and the Giants.
BlackClouds said:
dude, stfu =(
I'm a bears fan and I have a Manning avatar. I know we're gonna lose...no need to rub it in. We don't need the few genuine Colts fans at this board giving their fanbase a douchebag reputation. I think nearly everyone that regularly posts in this thread can agree the Colts have the best offense and best QB in the NFL. Chill out a bit, dude =p
also, I LOVE this:
People ALWAYS said the same exact thing about Elway. And where is he now? To many people the best QB of all time. At worst, 2nd or 3rd behind Montana/Marino. Does anyone think of him as a choker? No.
Manning will win at least one SuperBowl in his career. He is simply too good not to.
and this was on Fact or Fiction the other day...what do you guys think:
"Fact of Fiction: When all's said and done, Peyton Manning will go down as the best QB in NFL history"
Schlereth said fact. I would have to agree with that. Manning is only 28 and he is having the best year in NFL history. At the age of 28. I figure in 10 years he wins at LEAST one Superbowl, perhaps more. And it's not just his unreal numbers, but the way he's known as the "field general" and how he controls the entire offense.
All IMO of course, but I see him as the next NFL legend. Right now I have Marino as the best QB ever. But in 10 or so years the way he's going, Manning will surpass him.
Fixed2BeBroken
Member
Wellington said:
:lol
BlackClouds
Member
Eminem said:
I frankly don't give a fuck anymore. After every win I have to hear whining about how the receivers should wear tutu' and skirts for being protected by the refs, running up the score and stats unfairly, and other crap that shows the lack of class and respect these teams have. I'm no Tony Dungy clone, I'll return that in kind. I root for Chicago but the league needs to be taught a lesson of respect, and I can only hope that the Colts come with the fire that I think they will, to take what's theirs.
The rest of the games only have to entertain me, hopefully some key losses to douchebag teams like the Texans, and the Raiders (as well as any teams with a better record than the Colts in the AFC).
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