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NFL Week 11 |OT| Turn Your Head and Cough
- Thread starter Buckethead
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His accuracy with throwing the ball just isn't good. His receivers can't separate but he misses on quite throws he shouldn't, and this is damn hard to get better at.
I need to see 2-3 years of not sucking before I'm anything but skeptical.
BlackGhost
Banned
Haha let's not go crazy here. I think he'll be good for you guys.........I mean I'm a Browns fan I know a thing or two about Qb problems.
To this day I still wake up with tears in my eyes because of RG3, have you ever seen a grown man cry?
Good post. It's far too easy to play "woulda, coulda, shoulda" with this team.
To add to things, the offense has a shaky QB and only one actual target in the passing game.
hawkshockey11
Banned
Jones and Chandler are viable targets. Fitz is just no good.
Chandler isn't a good run blocker though, not enough speed either. I love Jones in the slot, but we need a big body that can stretch the field....so do a lot of teams.
BlackGhost
Banned
4am? Jeez
They only get as open as the playcall and defense let's them. But in the main, you're right. Fitz ain't that dude.
weekend_warrior
Banned
Honestly the Head coaches were never the problem.
GM/Scouts need to go.
Get some OLine help and a stud RB that doesn't have stone hands.
Dunno.
Its been crazy at work.
Just looked up and saw him on the bench at that point.
In fact i meant to post this while the game was going on.
Its been that busy.
TheDrizzlerJ11
Member
He hasn't been bad enough to where I want to draft another QB this offseason. So therefor, no QB controversy in Miami. The team is his for at least a couple years.
And just cause,
Most Penalty Yards by Player
Lewis, Keenan (Pit) - 138 yards
Taylor, Ike (Pit) - 107 yards
Shields, Sam (GB) - 103 yards
Skrine, Darryl (Cle) - 88 yards
Cromartie, Antonio (NYJ) - 86 yards
Carroll, Nolan (Mia) - 82 yards
Damn Pit!
Have you guys seen this smack talk Richard Sherman of the seahawks and tramon williams have been having over the "Optimus Prime" handle? Hilarious.
Sherman "Yeah, we were pushed around to the tune of 46 yards, I believe," (how many yards calvin johnson had) Sherman said. "Not too much pushing. I don't understand that shot, he took a shot at us. Last I checked, we've never given up 250 yards to anybody. We barely give that up in a game. To give that up to one player, I mean that was the last time they played him, (calvin johnson) I believe. I don't really know if he'd be the one [to] come talk to us about playing coverage."
Sherman "Yeah, we were pushed around to the tune of 46 yards, I believe," (how many yards calvin johnson had) Sherman said. "Not too much pushing. I don't understand that shot, he took a shot at us. Last I checked, we've never given up 250 yards to anybody. We barely give that up in a game. To give that up to one player, I mean that was the last time they played him, (calvin johnson) I believe. I don't really know if he'd be the one [to] come talk to us about playing coverage."
DeaconKnowledge
Member
Keenan Lewis got called on a bullshit PI in the Giants game to the tune of about 46 yards. Ike just had a bad start to the season.
Don't be jealous of our hot dog hero.
I can't comment on anyone else, but Sam doesn't deserve that.
There was an iffy PI call in the Colts game against him. Looks like 40 of those penalty yards are from that one game.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
Hey guys, the Dolphins suck.
I don't see Tramon Williams mentioned anywhere.
Buckethead
Banned
Tramon was invisible just like he is in coverage.
He's plated so poorly that he's going back to chopping up ingredients.
Buckethead
Banned
I don't know about poorly but he's playing below his reputation.
I expect more out of a guy who's been there awhile. He's the vet in the secondary now that grandpa Woodson is gone.
I expect more out of a guy who's been there awhile. He's the vet in the secondary now that grandpa Woodson is gone.
Based on what? I actually just looked up the grades and PFF has Williams as playing very good in the Indy game. He has 11 "passes defended" which puts him on pace for his average of low 22's and with 43 tackles is way above his pace. It appears to me that he is almost never getting thrown at but I don't know where to get those stats, so he is shutting down an entire side of the field in coverage.
Guess I'm not sure what beef someone could have with him?
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Asian Man!
The_Darkest_Red
Member
Agreed. Any stat that tries to boil down a QB's performance into one number is destined to fail. The game is just too complex for that.
Doesn't that mean you disagree? I'm saying I sort of like QBR, whereas a few weeks ago I was kind of trolling it. But I've read more about it and talked with a couple people about it and it's doing some good stuf. What always bothered me was the clutch component, but that's not exactly the big problem I thought it was
I'm not terribly surprised.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
Go Pats Go
The_Darkest_Red
Member
I misread your original post. I disagree with you after all, haha.
AngmarsKing701
Member
Every week it changes, but right now my biggest gripe with QBR is the bizarre weight on taking a sack. For a stat that is supposed to isolate quarterback performance, it sure puts a huge emphasis on not getting sacked (I think we can all agree that it's not 100% up to the QB whether or not he gets sacked). It also seems to treat taking a sack almost as big as throwing a pick, which is bizarre.
There is also a huge premium on running plays, which is retarded.
I think I've come to the conclusion that isolation metrics simply aren't applicable to a sport where cause and effect are so intertwined with each subsequent play. Unlike baseball where each new pitch (for the most part) essentially resets the gameboard, no such thing happens in football.
Personally, I think the most useful stat tracking being done is that Billick big play stat that I can never remember the dumb name for.
There is also a huge premium on running plays, which is retarded.
I think I've come to the conclusion that isolation metrics simply aren't applicable to a sport where cause and effect are so intertwined with each subsequent play. Unlike baseball where each new pitch (for the most part) essentially resets the gameboard, no such thing happens in football.
Personally, I think the most useful stat tracking being done is that Billick big play stat that I can never remember the dumb name for.
AngmarsKing701
Member
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