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[J2 Cool]

Craig Krenzel looking to start for the Bears.. boy do we have something to look forward to.. And the scary thing is, I'm serious. Jonathan Quinn was like watching double anal penetration with 3 guys and a girl thrown dancing around them just to make it seem straight but it just wasn't right. Not right at all

 

[soulja224466]

i predict a rams win

 

[Mrbob]

Craig Krenzel looking to start for the Bears.. boy do we have something to look forward to.. And the scary thing is, I'm serious. Jonathan Quinn was like watching double anal penetration with 3 guys and a girl thrown dancing around them just to make it seem straight but it just wasn't right. Not right at all

:lol :lol :lol

I hope Krenzel starts. I can't take another game with Quinn at the helm. He looks so putrid it's pathetic really. And Shea has the gull to constantly defend him. Ugh. If Krenzel starts we have a chance. If Quinn starts game is already over. You can't win games when your offense can't score.

 

[DCX]

Does it matter?

Of course!! I have Ruben Droughns on ym Fantasy Team

DCX

 

[soulja224466]

reuben droughns is the coolest name ever.

 

[DCX]

reuben droughns is the coolest name ever.

" Workhorse " Droughns

DCX

 

[theo]

Atlanta at Kansas City 1:00 pm
Buffalo at Baltimore 1:00 pm
Chicago at Tampa Bay 1:00 pm
Detroit at N.Y. Giants 1:00 pm
Jacksonville at Indianapolis 1:00 pm *Upset Special*
Philadelphia at Cleveland 1:00 pm
San Diego at Carolina 1:00 pm
St. Louis at Miami 1:00 pm
Tennessee at Minnesota 1:00 pm
N.Y. Jets at New England 4:05 pm *Stone Cold Lock*
Dallas at Green Bay 4:15 pm
New Orleans at Oakland 4:15 pm
Seattle at Arizona 4:15 pm

Monday, Oct. 25
Denver at Cincinnati 9:00 pm

 

[Mrbob]

All right. Just read that Grossman had successful surgery yesterday. Everything went fine and he'll be ready for training camp next year.

I say let him put on his pads, and go quarterback with a wheelchair. I guarantee in his hindered state he would complete more passes and take less sacks than Quinn.

 

[effzee]

hmm another trap game for the eagles as they maybe be looking ahead to baltimore.


hope the media hype and frenzy about garcia and owens doesnt get out of hand...but then again it might force the eagles to be focused for this game. our offense hasnt played well the last two games...hope they get it together.

 

[Myllz]

2 people picking Buffalo, I like it.

Willis McGahee > Ray Lewis.

 

[MetatronM]

2 people picking Buffalo, I like it.

Willis McGahee > Ray Lewis.

I almost picked Buffalo and decided against it. They aren't as bad as their record looks, but at the same time, they haven't proven that they have what it takes to win.

 

[Myllz]

I almost picked Buffalo and decided against it. They aren't as bad as their record looks, but at the same time, they haven't proven that they have what it takes to win.

I think it's going to come down to who's offense can function more effectively. Both teams have stellar defenses (with the edge going to Baltimore), and both have anemic offenses ( edge to Buffalo). With Heap and Jamal Lewis out for the game, I don't see the Ravens offense putting up more than 10 points on the Bills D. However, the Ravens D has the ability to put up points on their own, so that might hurt the Bills. All in all though, I think with McGahee finally starting to get some real playing time, and Eric Moulds being 100% healthy, the Bills can squeeze through with a slight win. Either way it should be a good game.

 

[EAJAPAN]

I'll be taking Buffalo this week. I'm thinking something like another 13-10 score in a Bills game, but this time in favour of Buffalo.

 

[Fifty]

I'll be taking Buffalo this week. I'm thinking something like another 13-10 score in a Bills game, but this time in favour of Buffalo.

You have a Bills avatar, no shit you're picking Buffalo.

 

[EAJAPAN]

tsc tsc!

I took them against Jacksonville, then after that I went against them with Oakland, New England and the Jets, of course I took them over Miami.

I tip with my head.

 

[Wellington]

I think it's going to come down to who's offense can function more effectively. Both teams have stellar defenses (with the edge going to Baltimore), and both have anemic offenses ( edge to Buffalo). With Heap and Jamal Lewis out for the game, I don't see the Ravens offense putting up more than 10 points on the Bills D. However, the Ravens D has the ability to put up points on their own, so that might hurt the Bills. All in all though, I think with McGahee finally starting to get some real playing time, and Eric Moulds being 100% healthy, the Bills can squeeze through with a slight win. Either way it should be a good game.

Don't forget the Baltimore special teams. This one can really go either way, I'd like to watch it.

 

[Mrbob]

Check out the poll on the Chicago sports website!!

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/

:lol

Would you rather have John Shoop as offensive coordinator or Jonathan Quinn as the starting QB?


1) Shoop, never thought I would be saying that


2) Quinn, I’m so glad Shoop will be on the opposite sideline Sunday

Quinn is winning 61/39 percent!

 

[soulja224466]

lovie smith didn't want kurt warner in the offseason. sucks for him.

 

[TheDuce22]

Why does this guy give me so many valid reasons to hate him.





How did you guys feel like you played??

Well the game was much closer than the scoreboard showed. You take away the 5 big plays and turnovers and we are right there

----The Amazing Ricky Manning Jr on the eagles blowout win over the panthers

 

[soulja224466]

LOL that's priceless. Big plays and turnovers are what seperates the good teams from the bad. Carolina sucks, they were a fluke, sorry ricky manning JR.

 

[EAJAPAN]

Yeah, take away the missed tackles, the interceptions, the blown coverages, the shitty run D, the big play offense from Philly, the fact that they're a better team than us and yeah, we were right in it!

Indeed.

 

[Mrbob]

lovie smith didn't want kurt warner in the offseason. sucks for him.

I don't think it is that as much as Warner wanted a job where he was gonna start. In Chicago he had zero chance of starting because Grossman was the starter while in New York he had an opportunity to start.

 

[soulja224466]

warner would have started over grossman imo, warner could have played the same role for da bears thats hes currently in with the giants. plus the bears are running the st louis offense, so he would have been a really good fit imo.

 

[EAJAPAN]

Just thought I'd re-post this FMT ripper from a few weeks back....

Pat: "Montana back to pass, hits rice in stride for a 48 yard gain."

<That fat pig tight end from the rams catches a bogus 7 yard out pass>
Paul: I talked to fat pig on friday and i asked him i said to him "Does marc bulger have a rocket arm and are you going to catch a 7 yard out pass?" and he looked at me and he smiled and he said "dont get your briches in a gander old chum" that is confidence. marc bulger has instilled the confidence that this team needs to be successful.

Joe: "Well Paul the Rams can't pass the ball, they have no offensive line, for gods sake their tight end has a cast on his thumb! Terrible idea to pass
<bulger to big gay torry holt touchdown moments after above comment>

Now the key to that play was great blocking by the offensive line and the FOCUS that marc bulger has. You want to talk about composure, I had lunch with marc bulger on saturday night, and when the waiter said soup or salad he didn't panick, he surveyed the menu, made his reads, and came BACK to the waiter and asked "what is the soup of the day?" to which the waiter replied "potato soup". Marc ended up going with the salad"

 

[tmdorsey]

WEEK 7
Sunday, Oct. 24

Atlanta at Kansas City 1:00 pm
Buffalo at Baltimore 1:00 pm - It seems like everytime I pick against the Ravens they win, if pick with them they lose, lets see what happens
Chicago at Tampa Bay 1:00 pm
Detroit at N.Y. Giants 1:00 pm - Upset Special
Jacksonville at Indianapolis 1:00 pm
Philadelphia at Cleveland 1:00 pm
San Diego at Carolina 1:00 pm
St. Louis at Miami 1:00 pm
Tennessee at Minnesota 1:00 pm
N.Y. Jets at New England 4:05 pm Come on Jets!!!!!
Dallas at Green Bay 4:15 pm
New Orleans at Oakland 4:15 pm
Seattle at Arizona 4:15 pm Wouldn't care if they lose though

Monday, Oct. 25
Denver at Cincinnati 9:00 pm


Hey Soulja did you hear that Warner called Martz to congraulate him on the Seattle win, and Martz hasn't return his call yet? He's a real prick isn't he?

 

[Odoul]

Easily their best QB prospect in years.

As a sidenote the Giants SHOULD rip into the Lions proper. I promise I'll never drink their blue and silver Kool-Aid. Why do I torture myself following this fucking team?

 

[Wellington]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/7812438

Tiki Barber with another brilliant article. He will also be on NFL Radio.

 

[Mrbob]

warner would have started over grossman imo, warner could have played the same role for da bears thats hes currently in with the giants. plus the bears are running the st louis offense, so he would have been a really good fit imo.

Well, he would be starting right now.

I've been following this team for years. Been keeping a close eye especially after the Lovie Smith hiring. Believe me when I tell you that Warner was an option, but he wouldn't take the back up role in Chicago. Grossman had the starting job right away.

 

[bionic77]

Tom Brady best QB in football?

Tom Brady is so overrated. This buffoon basically says Brady might not put up the best numbers or the most points, but he is the best because he is "tough". No doubt he is tough, but the numbers never lie and the best player doesn't win in football, the best team does. And it is crazy to rank McNabb above Manning.

 

[Pimpwerx]

Jesus fucking Christ, won't someone else PLEASE pick the Fins? I'm starting to think this 0-16 season will become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

WEEK 7
Sunday, Oct. 24

Atlanta at Kansas City 1:00 pm
Buffalo at Baltimore 1:00 pm
Chicago at Tampa Bay 1:00 pm - Most worthless game this week
Detroit at N.Y. Giants 1:00 pm - I hate the Giants, but I'm realistic
Jacksonville at Indianapolis 1:00 pm
Philadelphia at Cleveland 1:00 pm - Give Vick a TO and I'll pick them every week too
San Diego at Carolina 1:00 pm
St. Louis at Miami 1:00 pm - Fuck the haters. Go Fins!!!!!!11
N.Y. Jets at New England 4:05 pm - Can my bad karma sink the Pat this week? I sure as hell hope so :lol
Dallas at Green Bay 4:15 pm
New Orleans at Oakland 4:15 pm
Seattle at Arizona 4:15 pm - Seahawks are perennial also-rans and totally inconsistent. I hate picking their games.

Monday, Oct. 25
Denver at Cincinnati 9:00 pm Monday Night Upset Special?!?

You bastards better start showing some Dolphin love or else....meh, I can't back that up. Anyway, we're not gonna be winless. But we're still gonna do so embarassingly bad that some heads will roll, and the team can rebuild. We need a PROPER rebuild for this team, and if Wanny is still head coach next season, I'm becoming a Falcons fan. I'll hold out until they fire Wanny and the rest of the losers on this team. And they need to fire half the front office, especially the boneheads who manage to fuck up the draft every goddamn year. Our miserable record this year won't guarantee us shit. Knowing Miami, they'll pick Antrell Rolle with their first pick so he can sit on the bench and eventually be traded for a 2nd or 3rd rounder...or just released like they did with Jamal Fletcher. Did I ever mention we picked him over Fred Smoot? Fred PRO FUCKING BOWL Smoot? I swear, we've got total fucking morons running the team. I look forward to us not just embarassing ourselves in the regular season, but also in the offseason with another series of bonehead administrative decisions.

My bitterness aside, there's the Vick doubters. How many people said the same exact thing about McNabb when he was struggling with a corps of worthless receivers and a shitty O-Line? He gets pretty much one guy in TO and now he's unstoppable. Vick lead that team to the NFC championship a couple years ago in his first full season as a starter, and it wasn't a fluke. They are embarassingly bad without him. His backup may have posted nicer numbers in the preseason, but Vick's got the intangibles down...he can win games. Look at them now. Not impressive numbers at all, but they're a 5-1 team. Lots ot teams would like to have a record like that with a QB who hasn't fully adjusted to the system. I think people are right, they need to let him loose again. He may get hurt, but he's just as likely to get hurt in the pocket if one of his blocks breaks down. IMO, letting him run is better b/c most of the tackles will be coming from in front of him, in his field of view. Forcing him to stay to the pocket will allow him to be blindsided more often. Vick's whole style is based on his mobility. He can throw well on the run, just like McNabb, and he's a much greater running threat. Price probably padded his numbers in Buffalo thanks to Moulds being on the other side of the field. He's not that great. Can't seem to get himself open often enough. Give Vick a TO or Moss or someone of that caliber and he's gonna light up the scoreboard on anyone. I think Vick's getting the same stick that McNabb got, and that he'll be vindicated in the same way. They're both big playmakers, and with a proper receiving threat, they are hard to stop. The Falcon's D has stepped up big time, which means all they need to fix now is that O. Whoops, I bet I'm giving them the touch of death now. Watch Priest trample them this weekend now. :lol PEACE.

 

[TheDuce22]

Manning finally won his first playoff game last year. Sometimes the best player wont put up the best numbers, they do what it takes to win.

 

[bionic77]

Manning finally won his first playoff game last year. Sometimes the best player wont put up the best numbers, they do what it takes to win.

Football is the ultimate team game. Without a good offensive line, even Joe Montana couldn't make a completion. And a quarterback doesn't play defense, Brady has been clutch, but if his defense and special teams were not as good as they are he would never have been in that situation in the first place. Brady has also put up some garbage games where he was saved by his defense or special teams, the reason the Pats are so good is they are good on every side of the ball, they don't really have a weakness, but they don't exactly dominate at anything either. There are lots of guys who win superbowls who don't go to the hall of fame, even quarterbacks because winning is great, but it is the team that wins not the player.

 

[TheDuce22]

I see your point but I just dont think Manning is all that great. Put him on those pats teams and I dont know if they have the same amount of success.

 

[bionic77]

I see your point but I just dont think Manning is all that great. Put him on those pats teams and I dont know if they have the same amount of success.

You are entitled to your opinion, but I personally believe that if you put Manning on any team with a decent offensive line and a good defense he would contend for a Superbowl every year. No one handles the blitz or reads a defense as well as Manning, and to me that is ultimate determination of what makes a QB great. Lots of QBs are accurate, or mobile, or tough, but it is how well you can read a defense and make decisions that determines your ultimate worth.

 

[levious]

bionic77,

Don't tell me you think Marino is better than Montana? The numbers don't lie right?

 

[bionic77]

bionic77,

Don't tell me you think Marino is better than Montana? The numbers don't lie right?

Hmm, tough question. Personally I think Montana was better, but Montana put up monstrous numbers in his own right. He just didn't have a strong arm, but his QB rating was always one of the best every year. I wouldn't have a problem if someone thought Elway or Marino was better though, all of those guys were fantastic in different ways.

 

[levious]

a fine answer, but considering that, I can't see how you could be so outraged that someone calls Brady the best in the game right now. I'm sure some of your personal hate is affecting your analysis.

 

[Pimpwerx]

bionic77,

Don't tell me you think Marino is better than Montana? The numbers don't lie right?

Marino is better than Montana. Put him on the 49ers, and they probably never lose. Dan Marino was not the reason the Fins lost. He's the main reason they got as far as they did IMO, b/c they certainly had no running game, and their defense didn't get good until JJ stepped in. Montana was a great QB, but really, without that team around him, he's Steve Young or Phil Sims. All IMO of course. I'm a Marino homer, and I've gotten bitchslapped by Montana fans before. :lol

Oh yeah, the league should let Ricky Williams back. First of all, he wanted out fair and square. His timing was bad, but there's no rule against bad timing. As much as I hate him for deep sixing us in the last hour, I don't think there's anything fundamentally wrong with wanting to smoke weed and not get beat up on a football field. They should let him back, someone's gonna pick him up and he'll produce for them until he leaves again. And hopefully he'll get away clean next time so he doesn't have to make another half-hearted comeback. Bad fucking timing, but with the Lawrence Phillips and other criminals that frequent the NFL, Ricky's a pussycat, and not a bad person at all. I don't think the NFL should be holding grudges. PEACE.

 

[TheDuce22]

You are entitled to your opinion, but I personally believe that if you put Manning on any team with a decent offensive line and a good defense he would contend for a Superbowl every year.

You cant have it all. Manning has always had a great recieving core and running game to support him. Almost any starting QB you throw in there would put up huge numbers on that team. He still threw 4 picks in the championship. He lost that game, not the colts defense. I dont remember his other playoff losses but im sure he threw more than his share of interceptions.

 

[MetatronM]

Seems everybody is a Jets fan this week. Excellent.

 

[levious]

Marino is better than Montana. Put him on the 49ers, and they probably never lose. Dan Marino was not the reason the Fins lost. He's the main reason they got as far as they did IMO, b/c they certainly had no running game, and their defense didn't get good until JJ stepped in. Montana was a great QB, but really, without that team around him, he's Steve Young or Phil Sims. All IMO of course. I'm a Marino homer, and I've gotten bitchslapped by Montana fans before. :lol

Yeah, Montana didn't have Marino's arm, but that was likely due to it being weighed down by four rings.

Oh yeah, the league should let Ricky Williams back. First of all, he wanted out fair and square. His timing was bad, but there's no rule against bad timing. As much as I hate him for deep sixing us in the last hour, I don't think there's anything fundamentally wrong with wanting to smoke weed and not get beat up on a football field. They should let him back, someone's gonna pick him up and he'll produce for them until he leaves again. And hopefully he'll get away clean next time so he doesn't have to make another half-hearted comeback. Bad fucking timing, but with the Lawrence Phillips and other criminals that frequent the NFL, Ricky's a pussycat, and not a bad person at all. I don't think the NFL should be holding grudges. PEACE.

That's a real good point, he's certainly not a bad guy... but he quit on the game, made it clear that football is not that big a deal to him. No current or former player who's sacrificed so much to live their dream would ever forgive him, much less the average rabid fan.

 

[soulja224466]

Hey Soulja did you hear that Warner called Martz to congraulate him on the Seattle win, and Martz hasn't return his call yet? He's a real prick isn't he?

Yeah it's personal between martz and warner, i've said that all along. I believe martz is single-handedly responsible for running warner out of town. If you read the rams boards, close to half the fans hate martz for what's he's done, and we have multiple warner topics every day still!

Martz can be a prick, ask ricky proehl or james hodgins. But most of the players seem to love playing for him, so I don't really know what to think sometimes.

 

[TheDuce22]

This is the most nervous I have been about an eagles game. Somehow Garcia always kills us.

 

[bionic77]

a fine answer, but considering that, I can't see how you could be so outraged that someone calls Brady the best in the game right now. I'm sure some of your personal hate is affecting your analysis.

I do have a personal hatred of Brady, but that never gets in the way of my analysis.

I never said Brady was a bum, the guy is a really good QB, I just don't think he the best QB in the game today. He has a running back this year too, so that isn't really a viable excuse anymore. I would definitely place Manning, McNabb, McNair, possibly Pennington and definitely Big Ben above Brady.

 

[levious]

yeah, none of them have the pressures of past success weighing them down!

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

man terrell owens is a fucking prick. all he does is talk shit about jgar. let me lay some FACTS out for owens:

1. owens has caught 97, 93, 100 and 80 catches the last 4 years. who the fuck was throwing him the ball?

2. this bitch talks about Jgars "lack of arm strength" (which is a legit complaint), but i'm here to set the record straight. i have seen 99% of EVERY SINGLE play from every single niners game over the past 5 years, and i can tell you right now that owens dropped DOUBLE DIGIT DEEP BOMBS where he was wide open. not "got hit and dropped", i'm saying hit the motherfucker in the HANDS and he dropped it.

3. so, if owens can't catch the deep ball (and he can't, philly fans already know what i'm talking about, he has dropped more than a few passes, including one against MN which if challenged would have been called an incompletion) then he must rely on short passes where he uses his strength to get yards. garcia is a great short range passer. seems to me like a match made in heaven

here is a good article on the whole thing http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1906162


fuck owens dudes, he's being a little bitch. GET OFF JGARS JOCK! eagles lose this weekend and the jgar karma police emblem will be making an appearance on sunday!

 

[andthebeatgoeson]

In terms of scaryness, which I am sure is tracked by some NFL statistic, Manning is right up there. He's accurate as hell, is enhanced by a good O line and his smarts and reactions and reciever corp. And has consistently picked apart good defenses, minus the Patriots but quite a few teams have had problems with the Patriots the last few years. Manning is the reason why the Colts are great and I can't say the same about Brady. He won 2 rings and is good but I would put Manning at the top of the list, for the same reason, I would put Culpepper close to the top of the list for this year. In terms of Manning, when he wins a Supe and I'm confident he'll make at least one ring, he will leap past all doubters who place Brady above him. That, in my mind, makes him the better quarterback. Follows the logic that QBs recieve too much credit in winning and in losing.

I am biased towards Montana since I always wanted to be Jerry Rice Allah catching gifts from God. Two gods on one field...in perfect harmony. Would solve any Middle East crisis in 4 touchdowns. And Marino was annoying in a Karl Malone type of bitch way.

 

[J2 Cool]

In terms of scaryness, which I am sure is tracked by some NFL statistic, Manning is right up there. He's accurate as hell, is enhanced by a good O line and his smarts and reactions and reciever corp. And has consistently picked apart good defenses, minus the Patriots but quite a few teams have had problems with the Patriots the last few years. Manning is the reason why the Colts are great and I can't say the same about Brady. He won 2 rings and is good but I would put Manning at the top of the list, for the same reason, I would put Culpepper close to the top of the list for this year. In terms of Manning, when he wins a Supe and I'm confident he'll make at least one ring, he will leap past all doubters who place Brady above him. That, in my mind, makes him the better quarterback. Follows the logic that QBs recieve too much credit in winning and in losing.

I am biased towards Montana since I always wanted to be Jerry Rice Allah catching gifts from God. Two gods on one field...in perfect harmony. Would solve any Middle East crisis in 4 touchdowns. And Marino was annoying in a Karl Malone type of bitch way.

Manning would have a Superbowl right now if it weren't for the Patriots. The only real team to consistently stump him

 

[bionic77]

Manning would be in the Superbowl if the weather was better last year and his recievers didn't get raped last year.

 

[TheDuce22]

I dont understand why Owens has a beef with Garcia but he was asked about the guy and he gave his honest opinion. Its not like he brought it up again.

3. so, if owens can't catch the deep ball (and he can't, philly fans already know what i'm talking about, he has dropped more than a few passes, including one against MN which if challenged would have been called an incompletion) then he must rely on short passes where he uses his strength to get yards. garcia is a great short range passer. seems to me like a match made in heaven

I remember Owens droping a pass in preseason but thats about it. On the one deep ball you mentioned he was blatantly interfered with. Pretty much all we have done is throw bombs at him with great success, maybe 2 or 3 of his catches have been for less than 10 yards. He has made some outstanding catches on badly thrown balls, he was just in the wrong situation there. Its still impressive what he did and Garcia should get some of the credit, even though he is not a great QB by any means.

Edit: Part of his problem is he thought he was not getting enough respect for his speed and his ability to go deep. It turns out it was Garcias weakness holding that aspect of his game back.