wsoxfan1214
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A bunch of people saying the NHLPA already turned it down. Substantiated or no?
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Of course they did. It's a base to start from not the final thing. PA will, hopefully, tweak it and it'll be accepted before too long.
brucewaynegretzky
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That's because your company can easily replace you. It's called bargaining power.
We already know they are going to present an counter-proposal so it's not like they will accept it but probably work with the framework of the NHL proposal.
We'll see, I suppose.
These owners don't care, they have other revenue streams.
brucewaynegretzky
Member
Yeah because good business people give up millions in revenue at any given time just to prove a point....
The owners have plenty at stake here too. It's not worth it to lose a season financially if the difference between deal you get and the one you would have gotten won't make up the potential profits you lost during the lockout year.
MrToughPants
Brian Burke punched my mom
Pocket change for most owners.
Good business people find the best return on investments. If they have to give up $10M now to gain an extra $30M over the life of the CBA, they'll do it.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Pretty much, it would make no sense from a business standpoint which is all the owners care about.
brucewaynegretzky
Member
And losing a season isn't that. They lose massive amounts of PROFIT (Hear me Dopey? Profit.) for a whole year lost for incremental changes to a 5 to 7 year CBA. The changes in the CBA beyond what the union will counter with at this point won't be worth it.
Not every club makes money at the end of the year, which is why owners are largely willing to lock out players to change that.
brucewaynegretzky
Member
Too much money on the line for the owners that actually matter.
You're disregarding revenue sharing. If the clubs "that actually matter" have to share their revenues with teams that aren't pulling in as much, they're going to want to get the CBA in their favor to bring overall revenues up.
brucewaynegretzky
Member
Absolutely. So they'll agree to just about any deal that doesn't have real revenue sharing, pressure everyone into it, and we'll do this all again in 6-ish years.
Apparently not all of the NHL Owners were aware of the NHL proposal before they offered it to the NHLPA.
Hilarious. Shouldn't be surprising considering Bettman only needs the approval of eight owners to offer or reject any CBA proposal.
On the other hand, the NHLPA needs a simple majority.
If the NHLPA accepts or rejects a proposal, we know it's the majority of players.
On the NHL side, who the hell knows? For all we know, 22 owners could have wanted to accept a CBA proposal but it's rejected anyways.
EDIT: Anyways hope a deal gets done. If the majority of owners are sticking together, fine. But if there's a handful of owners that's holding everything up..................................
Hilarious. Shouldn't be surprising considering Bettman only needs the approval of eight owners to offer or reject any CBA proposal.
On the other hand, the NHLPA needs a simple majority.
If the NHLPA accepts or rejects a proposal, we know it's the majority of players.
On the NHL side, who the hell knows? For all we know, 22 owners could have wanted to accept a CBA proposal but it's rejected anyways.
EDIT: Anyways hope a deal gets done. If the majority of owners are sticking together, fine. But if there's a handful of owners that's holding everything up..................................
That damn smug look on his face, I want to punch him. I want to punch Bettmen, I want to knockout Fehr.
Hey man, you've got a raccoon problem to be dealing with, you can't worry about hockey at a time like this!!
SpectreFire
Member
Looks like Fehr won't stop until he destroys hockey.
Great.
Great.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
He will turn it into baseball.
SpectreFire
Member
Line-up for Bieksa's charity game released.
BigJonsson
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Harry Potter?!?!?
SpectreFire
Member
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Pavel Bure, 4th line checking specialist.
TemplaerDude
Member
Wait wait wait wait wait, Harry Potter is real?
Funny video from Subban about looking for a job :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlHMObnWTq0&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlHMObnWTq0&feature=youtu.be
TemplaerDude
Member
Yeah, that's... not funny.
List of NHL scoring leaders playing in Europe.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=2364
Nice to see Cervenka in 4th place. /thumbsup
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=2364
Nice to see Cervenka in 4th place. /thumbsup
Nice to see Malhotra playing on a line with Steve Nash's brother and JOHN CARTER.
Give Sedins time and space.
Gold.
@ChrisKuc: #Blackhawks' Toews on NHL's offer: "There’s no real effort there. It’s just a ploy to kind of sway the positive light back in their favor".
that's right folks, toews believe there's no effort
(yet we have yet to see ANYTHING from the NHLPA that resembles effort)
that's right folks, toews believe there's no effort
(yet we have yet to see ANYTHING from the NHLPA that resembles effort)
Zombie James
Banned
50/50 is a ploy, 60/40 is fair and balanced.
yankeehater
Member
Jesus fucking christ! I was so hopeful yesterday but hearing what the players and their management have had to say today my optimism is back to 0. If we lose a season because these fuckers wont take a few % less I am going to cry.
China did it.
Seriously, the NHL needs to bring in replacement players, like, now.
Slash the price of tickets, call up all your AHL guys to play in the bigs (no idea if they can even legally do this, but you get my point), and watch the NHL players cry in their soup for throwing away millions of dollars to play the game they love.
I'd be first in line to watch these games, just to prove the point that no individuals are larger than the game itself. We cheer for the jersey, not the people wearing them.
This game deserves BETTER than these greedy, entitled pricks.
Slash the price of tickets, call up all your AHL guys to play in the bigs (no idea if they can even legally do this, but you get my point), and watch the NHL players cry in their soup for throwing away millions of dollars to play the game they love.
I'd be first in line to watch these games, just to prove the point that no individuals are larger than the game itself. We cheer for the jersey, not the people wearing them.
This game deserves BETTER than these greedy, entitled pricks.
Don't worry guys Shawn Horcoff came in with a rational mind yesterday
oh wait
this was posted a bit before the NHL's new proposal but still some good stuff in there.
players are on the ropes in the PR battle. So much whining and bitching and moaning and crying. The owners may be "evil" fellas, but they're certainly much quieter.
oh wait
this was posted a bit before the NHL's new proposal but still some good stuff in there.
players are on the ropes in the PR battle. So much whining and bitching and moaning and crying. The owners may be "evil" fellas, but they're certainly much quieter.
KernelPanic
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Goodell, Selig and Stern must be doing backflips in their office that they didn't have to negotiate with Fehr.
If they release a joke proposal tomorrow I need a new sport.
Yeah it pissed me off to see them grovelling to fans asking them to help them in their "fight"
If they release a joke proposal tomorrow I need a new sport.
Yeah it pissed me off to see them grovelling to fans asking them to help them in their "fight"