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[Tak3n]

here we go......

ward closures
cuts in bed numbers
changes to A&E and GP care in 44 areas.

Sign of in October so only weeks to have any say.

Sally Gainsbury, senior policy analyst with the trust, said many of the plans at the moment appeared to be proposing shifting or shutting services.
"Our research finds that, in a lot of these kinds of reconfigurations, you don't save very much money - all that happens is the patient has to go to the next hospital down the road.
"They're more inconvenienced... but it rarely saves the money that's needed."

Plans are being drawn up that could see cuts to NHS services across England.
The BBC has seen draft sustainability and transformation plans (STPs) which propose ward closures, cuts in bed numbers and changes to A&E and GP care in 44 areas.
There have been have been no consultations on the plans so far.
NHS England, which needs to find £22bn in efficiency savings by 2020-21, said reorganising local services is essential to improve patient care.
But the Nuffield Trust think tank said while STPs could lead to "fundamental changes", many of the plans do not meet the financial targets set by the government and will face a "dauntingly large implementation task".
Laura Townshend, director of the campaign group 38 Degrees, said the plans had received very little public or political scrutiny.
She told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "A key concern is why it hasn't been this transparent up until now.
"These plans are due to be signed off this October - a matter of weeks away".

The STPs are being drawn up by local health and social care leaders, although many remain unpublished.
They were asked to find potential savings and efficiencies at the end of last year to meet financial targets set out by the former Chancellor George Osborne and NHS England head Simon Stevens.
Stephen Dalton, Chief Executive of the NHS Confederation, said that the NHS would not "indiscriminately close services".
He said local discussions were "better than having a single plan" for the whole country.
Mr Dalton told the Today programme that in the past there has been reluctance from political leaders to address the way things are organised in the NHS.
He said much of the structure is "an accident of history", arguing that MPs have been dodging issues for too long.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-37186455

 

[Zigzz14]

Congrats on that second place olympic finish though

 

[gofreak]

Dat control.

 

[Raxus]

Don't worry, that Brexit funding will kick in any day now.

 

[Log4Girlz]

Shocking news












Not Honestly Shocking

 

[KingSnake]

If only people would have voted for funding NHS instead of EU ...

 

[AssassiN]

Where I live they are proposing to cut maternity services and expecting expectant mothers to travel nearly an hour on a good day to the next nearest hospital to give birth on a road that barely handles the normal traffic now let alone with increased traffic because of ambulances.

 

[ClosingADoor]

So Boris, what's your explanation here?

 

[CalamityPixel]

"Lets fund our NHS instead"

Tell me lies tell me sweet little lies

 

[gofreak]

So Boris, what's your explanation here?

Well, I guess technically the UK hasn't left the EU yet.

So he only needs to come through on this in two years time, or whatever.

Which of course he will do. *cough*

 

[Liamario]

The public was completely misled by Brexit and yet, they're still going ahead with it.

 

[Carl2291]

Makes you wonder where the government send all our taxes.

 

[Maledict]

Where I live they are proposing to cut maternity services and expecting expectant mothers to travel nearly an hour on a good day to the next nearest hospital to give birth on a road that barely handles the normal traffic now let alone with increased traffic because of ambulances.

Horton General?

 

[Auctopus]

Congrats on that second place olympic finish though

That was media manipulation at its finest last weekend.

 

[Jezbollah]

If only people would have voted for funding NHS instead of EU ...

Thanks to that bus, a lot of people thought that.

 

[AssassiN]

Horton General?

No West Cumberland (Whitehaven) the amount of cuts they want for our hospital is staggering considering the nuclear plant right on the doorstep. If they go ahead with the cuts and there was (god forbid) an incident then most affected prople would be dead long before any treatment.

 

[Saint of Killers]

So much for no NHS cuts until 2020.

 

[mere_immortal]

Is there a list anywhere to see which hospitals will be affected?

 

[PJV3]

Don't worry, that Brexit funding will kick in any day now.

We are going to spend a shit tonne of cash just to stay where we are, after years of austerity that pisses me off more than leaving the EU.

We will of course have to fuck over the ill and disabled at a later date to pay for it, that's the sensible way to govern.

 

[StayDead]

Dat control.

yay!

 

[Maledict]

So much for no NHS cuts until 2020.

I think the governments argument would be that they aren't cutting the NHS, it's that the NHS is spending more than its given so needs to cut back. It's semantics but I'm guessing that's the reason behind this.

 

[Fat4all]

wa happaaaaned?!?

 

[deli2000]

The British public were lied to. I will never forgive the people who perpetuated this.

 

[Jacobi]

Makes you wonder where the government send all our taxes.

That's for 2009

That's a newer one... Social protection is split up in this one

 

[ThoughtsOfSpeaking]

So within a month we have got a recommitment to scraping the HRC and further Cuts the NHS.

Meanwhile the leader of the opposition is so inept that he had to fabricate a packed train.

 

[Robin64]

Dat control.

This pisses me off so much.

 

[Linkstrikesback]

Can't wait for them to blame this on Corbyn too. Who will probably respond like the wet fish he is.

So within a month we have got a recommitment to scraping the HRC and further Cuts the NHS.

Meanwhile the leader of the opposition is so inept that he had to fabricate a packed train.

Shocking isn't it. Come back lib Dems coalition, all is forgiven...

 

[Breads]

Dat control.

Populism has merits tho!

 

[Ban Puncher]

 

[gofreak]

 

[Fat4all]

oh god, that's just beautiful

I wanna make that my wallpaper

 

[kmag]

Don't worry the Tories would never get awa...

oh

 

[shira]

Dat control.

"I think they made a mistake"
- Nigel Farage

 

[nekkid]

It's a good job my wife isn't an NHS nurse. Wait..

I've told her before she should look at working in private care (we do pay to have it, after all), but morally she feels she needs to support the NHS.

 

[A Link to the Past]

I haven't been following Brexit much, but is it basically a done deal? Like, they can't just be like "well, that didn't work, let's just not do it instead"

 

[sechsterangriff]

The UK hasn't left the EU yet. Once they do, those millions will just start pouring into the NHS. You'll see!

 

[Messofanego]

And Jeremy Cunt demands a 7 day NHS with no new doctors or nurses or resources even though they admit that it's not going to work out.

 

[El Topo]

I haven't been following Brexit much, but is it basically a done deal? Like, they can't just be like "well, that didn't work, let's just not do it instead"

In theory they could, in practice they won't.

 

[Ravensmash]

Dat control.

Seeing this image again has made me incredibly angry.

Fuck those lying bastards.

 

[boneyjangles]

We get healthcare for free in the UK, the service isn't too bad either (though not perfect, and inefficient).

But the counter to this is that the UK has an eye watering about of external debt. The country likes to pretend it's a bit richer than it really is. Could end up biting us badly.

 

[Xando]

Dat control.

Should have been first post

fucking politicians

 

[Funky Papa]

And Jeremy Cunt demands a 7 day NHS with no new doctors or nurses or resources even though they admit that it's not going to work out.

I'm shocked so many people still don't see the old tactic of underfunding, stressing to breaking point and finally privatising because "it doesn't work".

 

[deadman69]

its those millennials fault somehow.

 

[Hystzen]

Bet government is loving this whole bretxit vote they can do whatever they want and just say well we voted leave EU to avoid blame.

NHS was doomed moment we saw Hunt was staying

 

[Funky Papa]

We get healthcare for free in the UK, the service isn't too bad either (though not perfect, and inefficient).

But the counter to this is that the UK has an eye watering about of external debt. The country likes to pretend it's a bit richer than it really is. Could end up biting us badly.

It is hardly as bad as conservatives pretend.

I'm sure profit margins will add tons of efficiency, though. Specially in cartel-like schemes with the government running the tab.

 

[TedMilk]

We're fucked.

 

[CyclopsRock]

Aaahhh, don't worry, the opposition will hold them to account. Their majority is so slim that they won't be able to get away with this.

 

[chromatic9]

The British public were lied to. I will never forgive the people who perpetuated this.

We haven't left the EU, we still pay the EU contributions and as of right now we're still a full member of the EU, could be 2 years before we actually leave. Vote was 8 bleeding weeks ago folks.

The cuts would be happening without the ref, plenty of articles were around before the referendum about NHS facing funding problems.

Not that I'm saying leaving the EU in 1-2 years time will save us money. Yes that 350mwas a lie, more like we pay 240m and if we want to stay half in we still need to pay a big sum.

 

[Par Score]

Never trust the Tories with public services, but especially not with the NHS.

 

[Jacobi]

We haven't left the EU, we still pay the EU contributions and as of right now we're still a full member of the EU, could be 2 years before we actually leave. Vote was 8 bleeding weeks ago folks.

The cuts would be happening without the ref, plenty of articles were around before the referendum about NHS facing funding problems.

Not that I'm saying leaving the EU in 1-2 years time will save us money. Yes that 350mwas a lie, more like we pay 240m and if we want to stay half in we still need to pay a big sum.

Yep. Isn't this happening to counteract rising welfare costs?