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NieR: Automata |OT| "I wouldn't expect too much from this game if I were you."
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We do? I mean, I don't mind it, but I feel like there's a bunch of other cool titles we could consider if we take the time to think about it lol
RubberLuffy
Banned
Go to the
Amusement Park in route A with a bunch of upgraded machine weapons equipped (for the discount) and buy a bunch of thick dictionaries from the shop down one of the side paths. Go to any shop later in route C and sell them. Repeat. You can make millions in like 15 minutes of running back and forth
Oh so the perks stack. I had no idea. But now I need money to make money lol.
RubberLuffy
Banned
Go to the
Desert Housing Boss arena in Route C (as A2 for faster killing)
Dreams-Visions
Member
Don't worry; you can go back and do them at any time after you finish the game.
now that's a pro tip right there. though I can't say I've found money to be an issue, what with being able to sell Cores for $22k per. them things drop like candy. I don't think I've been below $300k since I finished Route A tbqh.
I had 33 at the end of the game and made almost a million but it all went down the drain when I bought as many upgrade materials as I could. And I STILL need more materials.
Go to the Desert Housing conplex where you fought the boss. Set it on easy and use the Auto chips. A Drop rate up, Auto Collect and some kind of self heal. I left it like that for like 30 mins when the game plays for you since enemies infinitely respawn. Came back and made about a million selling all the random items and Chips that dropped. They also drop Shockwavw chips which are amazing in combat as well
klabautermann
Member
PS3 was NIER Replicant and 360 was NIER Gestalt.
Replicant has you playing as Yonah's older brother, while Gestalt has you playing as her father. There are some other variations with some of the years and dialogue, I believe. But I don't know the specifics.
Replicant wasn't localized as far as I know.
Fahzgoolin
Banned
Just picked up a copy...You blokes better have not let me down. I'm expecting some Vanquish level of satisfaction in combat with some wacky philosophical story telling.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
Nier on PS3(JP) was a brother with the worst hair ever. Nier (360) was a father with the worst face ever
Man playing through Route B since yesterday and it's quite.........weird so to speak.
The random cutscenes that play at certain moments are really interesting, but also a bit confusing as well. Overall I'm enjoying my time hacking everything with 9S more than I thought I would, but I do find myself trying to speed through this repeated story content, so I can get to the good stuff. Currently up to the Forest Kingdom.
The only thing they changed is the protag (And his relationship to the character Yonah (Daughter/Sister)
The only one we got is Papa Nier, the left one
More MGR really, but you'll get your storytelling.
Dreams-Visions
Member
haha.
I didn't end up needing to buy too many mats as I have an addiction to picking up things on the ground and I thought I was expected to farm everything (too much Diablo 3). In the end, I think I only needed to buy a total of maybe 30 mats to upgrade weapons and pods. Everything else I just found.
That said, I wish I had known I didn't need to farm things like PEARLS and all the other random upgrade mats: you can buy just about everything from shops. The Park shop keeper and
Emil
ShadowSoldier89
Member
you gotta use a picture of brother nier with the shitty hairThe only thing they changed is the protag (And his relationship to the character Yonah (Daughter/Sister)
The only one we got is Papa Nier, the left one
ShadowSoldier89
Member
YES PERFECT. this character just exudes "taro was forced to make a character to appeal to the japanese base"You make brother Nier sad
I got it in like 4 tries
I felt like that was the point. He's a spiky haired JRPG protag who believes in the power of friendship. And then the universe kicks his teeth in so he lets his hair down, gets super pissed off, and picks up big swords to kill things. He stops caring about saving the world and just wants his sister and his stability back.
I know we're never allowed to praise Brother Nier in any capacity, but there's lots about the game where he fits better.
klabautermann
Member
I'm interested to know where you think he fits better? I have no opinion since I never played Replicant, but thinking about I feel like Dad Nier makes more sense. Though, I feel like the C ending in particular was made more for Brother Nier, but D ending makes more sense for Dad Nier imo.
How About No
Member
So am I sick for thinking S-E, Yoko Taro and Platinum should team up to make a sequel to Xenogears
I know it's wrong but in my head it feels so right
I know it's wrong but in my head it feels so right
Actually, IIRC Taro was the one that came up with Brother Nier, someone else had the idea for Father Nier. (His co-writer for Nier? Can't remember the name)
The story was written with Brother Nier in mind, so that's why some elements
The time skip, his relationship with Kainè and Emil
Well for starters, Emil's crush and Brother Nier's romance with Kaine is a lot less creepy when he's younger.
Plus it raises weird questions like "why doesn't Papa Nier get a fucking job" and why he's hanging around these teenagers, and then weird moments like his friendship speech to Kaine, or how the timeskip doesn't really affect him the way it completely shifts Bro Nier's character.
Mostly though, I think Bro Nier works in the context of NieR being a video game. Young protagonists on a heroic journey is a staple of games, and NieR is kind of like a parody of video games as a whole, so it feels fitting.
That, and his blinding optimism being ruthlessly, relentlessly ground into the dirt over and over until he basically turns into Caim is a hoot.
I will freely admit that Papa Nier has one glaring positive over Bro, and that is
that it makes perfect sense for a father to spend a thousand years trying to save his daughter, but a brother doing that is weird.
I feel it's the other way around regarding endings.
Papa Nier should stab Kaine because he needs to be there for Yonah. Brother Nier should sacrifice himself because he's in love with her.
TLDR: Papa Nier is a better character, Bro Nier is more fitting for the game.
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
What we need is a Yoko Taro themed Mario Party or WarioWare equivalent, so we can bundle all these things up into minigames.
I suppose he'd be the best option given Takahashi is tied up. I'd rather dream of Takahashi finishing up Saga himself, but I'm down for Platinum in either wish.
I really want this team to remake NieR Replicant after this: it's a rough gem that would shine with an overhaul.
Get Automata's graphics and batte system (plus various improvements like better RPG elements and expanded world) and it would finally get the scores it deserves.
Plus it would kind of work as a prequel/sequel to Automata.
Get Automata's graphics and batte system (plus various improvements like better RPG elements and expanded world) and it would finally get the scores it deserves.
Plus it would kind of work as a prequel/sequel to Automata.
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
For those who have finished the English version of Nier, here are some interesting write-ups on Brother Nier: Nier: Replicant Analysis
Use the "Next" button in the top left corner to continue reading.
Like many, upon seeing Brother Nier's design I immediately thought "oh man, I'm glad we didn't get THAT pandering cliche trash", but there's a huge blindspot in that reaction: Yoko Taro. Playing with cliches and subverting expectations is Taro's bread and butter. It should have been obvious that there was more to Brother Nier than his design would suggest.
Use the "Next" button in the top left corner to continue reading.
Like many, upon seeing Brother Nier's design I immediately thought "oh man, I'm glad we didn't get THAT pandering cliche trash", but there's a huge blindspot in that reaction: Yoko Taro. Playing with cliches and subverting expectations is Taro's bread and butter. It should have been obvious that there was more to Brother Nier than his design would suggest.
KZXcellent
Member
So on Route C
This game jumps from "Holy shit this is amazing" to "This is unbelievably obnoxious" constantly.
Got control of A2 and unfortunately died. For the first time the game gives me a Game Over screen forcing me to load and lose a bunch of progress. Really?
This game jumps from "Holy shit this is amazing" to "This is unbelievably obnoxious" constantly.
KZXcellent
Member
I get where it's coming from but all the various mechanics being tied to things so logically leads to the game being increasingly frustrating.
I'd buy that immediately.
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
No more rhythm games. Never again.
klabautermann
Member
Thanks for elaborating on these points! Pretty interesting and I'd really like to play through Replicant at some point.
On a related note, anyone know any good videos going over or have an good audio reading of the stuff in Grimoire Nier on Youtube? At work and would like to be able to listen to it while I get some stuff done.
How you really gonna get mad at something that should've been ingrained in you since Route A?
Save often.
Fahzgoolin
Banned
KZXcellent
Member
How you really gonna get mad at something that should've been ingrained in you since Route A?
Save often.
Because I've never been punished for not saving often. Changing how the game works on the fly like that isn't really fair. :V
Hey did anyone change their default controller bindings?
I've found Xbone controller scheme(don't think it is any different to DualShock) a bit uncomfortable to use with Evade and Pod fire on one side. So that it is impossible to fire and evade at the same time with a normal gamepad grip.
I ended up binding Evade to B and finishing game on hard but this time I was unable to dodge and aim.
And as I am planning on the second playthrough on max difficulty I was wondering what control schemes other people use?
I've found Xbone controller scheme(don't think it is any different to DualShock) a bit uncomfortable to use with Evade and Pod fire on one side. So that it is impossible to fire and evade at the same time with a normal gamepad grip.
I ended up binding Evade to B and finishing game on hard but this time I was unable to dodge and aim.
And as I am planning on the second playthrough on max difficulty I was wondering what control schemes other people use?
I think I had podfire on LT, evade on RT, pod skill on LB and lock on RB, rest was the same
I had Evade (L1) and Pod Program (L2) on the left side, and Fire (R1) and Switch Weapon (R2) on the right side.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Yep I went with this as well.
I was surprised how much I liked having shoot and evade on the same side triggers and bumpers on a ds4 on steam. It really felt like the game was made for the ds4.
I can totally understand not liking the button layout if using other controllers though
I'm used to bayonetta ;p