Nvidia is asking those with crashes to submit their feedback though. Maybe it's a driver related. Anyone with crashes using a geforce 10 series?
I've had no crashes as well. GTX 1070.
I've had no crashes as well. GTX 1070.
Nier: Automata PC performance thread
- Thread starter JaseC
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For what it's worth, they haven't added a patch listing to the SteamDB page.
Are you running AO through SweetFX? Injected AO is performance intensive.
Are you running AO through SweetFX? Injected AO is performance intensive.
I don't think so, Is this turned on by default?, I just clicked the Clarity and Vibrancy options and left it at that.
By AO, are you referring to ambient occlusion?
Yes. I'm not 100% sure if SweetFX injects that, just going through potential solutions.
Cannon Goose
Member
This has basically been my experience as well, apart from some of the pre-rendered cutscenes looking choppy. No crashes and great performance after 20 hours of play.
charlequin
Banned
Bless you, sir.
I'm getting 60FPS @ 1440p with 8xAA. But I feel like downsampling from 3328×1872 gives me better picture quality. Hitching is also minimized and prerendered playback was also smooth today.
Hopefully someone does something about global Illumination since DrDraxxy was able to get 4K@60fpa on a 980Ti
Hopefully someone does something about global Illumination since DrDraxxy was able to get 4K@60fpa on a 980Ti
copelandmaster
Member
A couple of days after my initial impressions... I'm kinda not happy about the stuttering. Running from the android camp and following the river to the waterfall and then running back to camp highlights how predictable most of the stuttering is. I get minor framedrops (like 59.9fps, 90% of the time :^/) and/or stuttering in the same locations every single time. During the stuttering portions of the run, RTSS will read 60.0fps, 16.6ms, which makes no sense. 60fps capped, no vsync, MSAA Off.
This game also has an extremely aggressive level of detail and streaming system. You trip over the seams in the world like crazy in this game.
It gets kind of stupid:
Exhibit A, bad face
Exhibit B, a less bad face after turning the camera a little.
I think a patch is in order. Let us control how the game streams, culls, and how aggressive the LOD is.
This game also has an extremely aggressive level of detail and streaming system. You trip over the seams in the world like crazy in this game.
It gets kind of stupid:
Exhibit A, bad face
Exhibit B, a less bad face after turning the camera a little.
I think a patch is in order. Let us control how the game streams, culls, and how aggressive the LOD is.
Nothing1016
Member
Does anyone know how to get rid of all the yellow info?
Most signs point to no.
I tried it and it didn't seem to do anything
guybrushfreeman
Unconfirmed Member
It's a shame there's no sign of a patch yet. Hopefully they're looking into people's issues behind the scenes
CTRL + SHIFT + O
Nothing1016
Member
You're amazing! Thanks.
dgrdsv
Member
Yeah, you could pretty much guess that the engine is doing something weird from the load profile the game produces on a Pascal card - 100% load in 1440p but the temperature rarely goes higher than 70C and the memory is downclocking as if the load if primarily on the shader core.
No crashes here but I've reported the memory downclocking issue - maybe they'll be able to fix it and improve performance a bit while doing this.
Edit: actually, scratch that - this issue is fixed already in 378.92. So nothing to report really.
Infinite Xero
Member
If you're asking about the fix for the sluggish cutscenes, then I tried it and it haven't noticed any choppy cutscenes since so yeah, it's with the time and effort (only took me about 20-30mins).
Ahhhhhhh! There seems to be so much variability with fixes - 2 people say this doesn't work, and one says it does? That ain't right.
Thanks for the reply - if it's only about a half an hour of time wasted, I may as well do it, just on the off-chance it works for me.
Alright, I've managed to improve performance by 30-60% (in 4K, on a 980 Ti, a friend reports more than doubled performance on a low-end mobile GPU).
Here's the visual differences (and framerate impact). Warning: if you haven't completed Route A you may find this a bit of a spoiler.
http://diff.pics/VBmFSLj8bn95/1
http://diff.pics/VBmFSLj8bn95/2
Expect to see a fix incorporating this change soon.
Here's the visual differences (and framerate impact). Warning: if you haven't completed Route A you may find this a bit of a spoiler.
http://diff.pics/VBmFSLj8bn95/1
http://diff.pics/VBmFSLj8bn95/2
Expect to see a fix incorporating this change soon.
Why would you show the difference with spoilery screens?
edit: ah ok, it's not that bad.
How'd you do it? Did you manage to somehow reduce the performance hit received from global illumination?
Edit: never mind, found your explanation here.
Robobandit
Member
they're not that spoilery, honestly.
One reveals a location you get to very early in route A and the other reveals information that was known before release..
9S is playable
Unfortunately I currently don't have a save where I can take completely spoiler-free screenshots right now.
I don't even know what global illumination is, beyond "relatively recent technique to do with lighting in computer graphics" (I'm not a graphics guy). I took a frame capture in a profiler, found that 40% of frame time is spent in one shader that loops over an array that always contains 128 elements, and just lowered the length of that array hoping it doesn't break anything. Fortunately, it didn't.
dieandromeda
Neo Member
wow, im using same gpu as yours. i know something is wrong with 4k. nice to know that it can be improved. cheers
That's a bit of a console "optimization", given that it's different in output
It looks a bit like it might reduce the propagation distance of GI effects, but that's just a guess based on two images so probably wrong. It would account for a significant performance impact though.
Anyway, improving scalability and configurability is a good thing in general. Great job!
I hope it doesn't break anything throughout the game.
How do I install this?
Yeah, given Kaldaien's fix is breaking for some people, and I'm happy with Borderless Fullscreen, I'd happily install just this fix.
dieandromeda
Neo Member
yea, me too. my fullscreen work perfectly. my only problem is a performance which indeed really useful if we can have fix from drdaxxy.
Abilidebob
Member
They've been updating the repo quite a lot today, just look at Steamdb. Patch maybe soon. Although it could be them only testing DLC.
I would be interested in testing it in e.g. the desert scene, something like this:
Is it possible to integrate it in a way that is easy to toggle during gameplay? That would be great to quickly ascertain that the impact is negligible in different situations.
(Edit: the "it" in this post of course referring to DrDaxxy's rather radical GI tweak)
Is it possible to integrate it in a way that is easy to toggle during gameplay? That would be great to quickly ascertain that the impact is negligible in different situations.
(Edit: the "it" in this post of course referring to DrDaxxy's rather radical GI tweak)
toastyToast
Member
Finished the game with one ending and it runs decently enough.
If only they'd patch the awful LOD distance. It's really distracting seeing a bunch of cardboard boxes until they're right up in your face. Otherwise the game can look quite nice.
If only they'd patch the awful LOD distance. It's really distracting seeing a bunch of cardboard boxes until they're right up in your face. Otherwise the game can look quite nice.
Looks like in a two weeks I'm going to have a GTX1080, 7600K, 16GB gaming PC and this is really the only game that is making me do this.
Am I safe to assume that I won't have any issue getting a constant 60 at 1080p?
waiiiit, this probably means the Surface Book would have been fine :O
Am I safe to assume that I won't have any issue getting a constant 60 at 1080p?
waiiiit, this probably means the Surface Book would have been fine :O
It should stay at 60 for the most part, but there will be some occasional stutter if it's similar to my experience in 1440p.
NeoRaider
Member
Just finished downloading 1 hour ago. Did they release any patches since launch?
BTW. Not sure was this posted, nice Candyland comparison:
4K UHD | NieR Automata – PC vs. PS4 Pro 4K Mode Graphics Comparison
BTW. Not sure was this posted, nice Candyland comparison:
4K UHD | NieR Automata – PC vs. PS4 Pro 4K Mode Graphics Comparison
Coming from being a console gamer for over a decade, that sounds lovely.
Excited. Thanks.
I play it on a 1080 at 1440p (which is almost twice as many pixels as 1080p) and it's pretty much a locked 60 in gameplay.
You should install it to SSD if possible. And probably downsample a bit, otherwise that 1080 will get bored
Haven't released anything yet, as I'd prefer to have this integrated into Kaldaien's fix as I don't like the idea of having a dozen different, mutually incompatible fixes that have the same basic purpose for one game when all is said and done (it was fullscreen yesterday, it's GI performance today, maybe it'll be LOD tomorrow...)
And because...
I'd prefer to do a little more testing than just walking around the world (all in regular thirdperson camera) for a couple minutes before releasing anything into the wild.
Couldn't be easier.
I've got stuff to do right now but I'll play around some more later. Thanks for suggesting the desert, forgot about that.
Are you playing with both "Anti-aliasing" (i.e. MSAA) and "Ambient Occlusion" (i.e. AO + postprocess AA (likely SMAA)) turned on? As mentioned before, that combination makes LOD transitions a lot more abrupt.
In my experience the LOD transitions are crap with just AO as well. Don't know if this is different with it off though.
I posted an example earlier in the thread.
There's a difference of just 1 or 2 steps between those pics.
DrDaxxy, that sounds great. I guess since it regenerates per frame if there is a more significant visual impact somewhere you could even make the parameter auto-adjust based on frametimes.
If you only use either MSAA or AO(+ppAA), then the transitions are gradual (by dithering I think, didn't pay too much attention). Otherwise (with both) they just flip from one to the other, which is a bit more distracting.
The difference isn't when the transitions happen, or between which levels, it's how they happen.
If you only use either MSAA or AO(+ppAA), then the transitions are gradual (by dithering I think, didn't pay too much attention). Otherwise (with both) they just flip from one to the other, which is a bit more distracting.
Yappadappadu
Member
So I finally bought a steam key, applied Kaldaien's FAR v.0.0.1 full screen fix and am disappointed by how the game is running on my 7700K, GTX 1080 rig.
Resolution: 1920x1080
V-Sync: On
Anti-Aliasing: Off
Texture Filter: 16x
Blur: On
Shadows: High
Effects: High
Ambient Occlusion: On
I had hoped for rock solid 60 fps, but according to the yellow on screen info the game is rarely running at 60 fps, mostly at about 59,5 - 59,8 fps and often enough slows down to 55 fps or below.
Played until the resistance camp and it's annoying that instead of just enjoying the game I'm constantly checking the framerate.
Will switch back to the window borderless gaming tool to see whether the gaming runs better that way. Should I get rid of Kaldaien's fix to do that?
Also doesn't help that the bluetooth connection from my bluetooth adapter to the PS4 controller seems to add a bit more lag compared to the PS4 console connection.
Any PS4 Pro/PC comparison video out yet? Maybe I should just give up and get the PS4 version. Can't get a refund for the steam version anymore, though.
Resolution: 1920x1080
V-Sync: On
Anti-Aliasing: Off
Texture Filter: 16x
Blur: On
Shadows: High
Effects: High
Ambient Occlusion: On
I had hoped for rock solid 60 fps, but according to the yellow on screen info the game is rarely running at 60 fps, mostly at about 59,5 - 59,8 fps and often enough slows down to 55 fps or below.
Played until the resistance camp and it's annoying that instead of just enjoying the game I'm constantly checking the framerate.
Will switch back to the window borderless gaming tool to see whether the gaming runs better that way. Should I get rid of Kaldaien's fix to do that?
Also doesn't help that the bluetooth connection from my bluetooth adapter to the PS4 controller seems to add a bit more lag compared to the PS4 console connection.
Any PS4 Pro/PC comparison video out yet? Maybe I should just give up and get the PS4 version. Can't get a refund for the steam version anymore, though.
Ok, the 'how' is definitely gradual for me.
But the 'when' is way too aggressive regardless
I don't think getting a version that routinely drops into the 40s (and below) FPS wise while running at 900p is a solution for your dislike of it running at 59,8 FPS.
Anyway, try getting rid of anything external, run the game in borderless fullscreen, and use RTSS' frame limiter at 60. That's what I do, and it's perfectly smooth for me in gameplay at 2560x1440 on a 1080.
I kind of don't get this. DF did profile the game on the both the pro and regular ps4. You're likely to get even worse performance on those.
I play it on a 1080 at 1440p (which is almost twice as many pixels as 1080p) and it's pretty much a locked 60 in gameplay.
You should install it to SSD if possible. And probably downsample a bit, otherwise that 1080 will get bored
Yeah, will be getting an SSD for OS and currently played games.
I've never done it so I don't know if I should DSR or SGSSAA
Will be keeping this gaming 1080p TN panel, but if I'm actually using a desktop maybe it won't be as bad.
toastyToast
Member
Just AO. While it is an improvement, the proper level of detail phases in way too close. It's not like we're dealing with pristine textures here. They should be loading in from much further out.
For this particular game, DSR. (And unless you use an external fullscreen fix, you'll need to switch your dektop resolution to the DSR resolution before starting the game.)
Generally, for games where SGSSAA works well (sadly a rarity these days) you should use that.
Thanks. I'll stay subscribed to this thread. Will post impressions when I can.
Edit: And write a batch file to switch the resolution before launching the game ofc.