NieR: Automata Spoiler Thread
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KO Traveling Hobo
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The fact that it doesn't match the subs makes it even better. I know it's almost certainly an error in the text, but I like to think the VA just got really into character and adlibbed.
So does anyone else see Emils shop song being the original Niers theme as... kind of depressing?
Like, it's this beautiful amazing song, but it's like Emil can only remember the tune without context, so he turned it into a jingle to sell his junk.
He should team up with pascal. Really turn those child cores into big business.
Like, it's this beautiful amazing song, but it's like Emil can only remember the tune without context, so he turned it into a jingle to sell his junk.
He should team up with pascal. Really turn those child cores into big business.
Of course.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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was anyone else disappointed with the second Emil fight being a reskin of the first A2 boss?
I wish they would have done something a little more hardcore for that.
I wish they would have done something a little more hardcore for that.
MultiJhonny
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I love seeing all these new people in the Spoils thread
Glad so many people have enjoyed it.
Glad so many people have enjoyed it.
they should have substituted hegel for another boss or a enemy barrage
CannonFodder52
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Finally got to that second Emil fight. Think I've just about done everything, ready to delete that save file.
Honestly for how long I spent play thing game, I can't believe I feel so excited to play through it all again sometime soon.
Honestly for how long I spent play thing game, I can't believe I feel so excited to play through it all again sometime soon.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
Disclaimer: I still need to get through ending E, am trying to finish up all the other joke-endings first.
So just to be clear, the 'cycle' of Android/machine war --> one side gets an advantage ---> wipe everything out --> re-build-up --> restart the war has happened more than once already? Or just 2B killing 9S during a bunch of missions via some form or another.
Because A2's dialogue to 9S only indicates that 2B has killed him a bunch of times, as does the 'this always happens' espoused by 2B in ending A....
And the overall cycle of androids vs machines is perpetuated (either the original conflict, or the 2nd/3rd/etc... variation therein) by this machine consciousness (that is also faking being the humans on the Moon) for....what purpose?
The two holo-girls are kinda obtuse (though they also mention evolving to a higher form of consciousness via conflict with the androids) and my mind was trying to take it all in at the time. Ending D indicates that they want to leave Earth, but I'm still not sure I get their intent (as machines who have gained consciousness after the aliens landed)
So just to be clear, the 'cycle' of Android/machine war --> one side gets an advantage ---> wipe everything out --> re-build-up --> restart the war has happened more than once already? Or just 2B killing 9S during a bunch of missions via some form or another.
Because A2's dialogue to 9S only indicates that 2B has killed him a bunch of times, as does the 'this always happens' espoused by 2B in ending A....
And the overall cycle of androids vs machines is perpetuated (either the original conflict, or the 2nd/3rd/etc... variation therein) by this machine consciousness (that is also faking being the humans on the Moon) for....what purpose?
The two holo-girls are kinda obtuse (though they also mention evolving to a higher form of consciousness via conflict with the androids) and my mind was trying to take it all in at the time. Ending D indicates that they want to leave Earth, but I'm still not sure I get their intent (as machines who have gained consciousness after the aliens landed)
A2.
I was honestly dreading getting Ending D because of how vicious 9S was.
If you chapter select into ending E, it shows the last scene from ending C before starting the credits fight. So yeah, if there's a canon path it's A = B > C > E
D is the worst case scenario. It definitely not supposed to end like that LOL
Is Emil's van's music a remix of his original music?
Original:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4aRbiTMBUE
His shop's music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwBh_7zV4Wo
Original:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4aRbiTMBUE
His shop's music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwBh_7zV4Wo
CannonFodder52
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Yea. It's pretty cool, or dark.
I'm not sure what to think about it haha.
It was my favorite track of the first game. It was so full of emotion.
And here comes Emil being Emil. Turning it into a hilarious little song.
So I'm playing again on my double dipped PC version after playing all the way through on the HK ps4 version and I noticed something really odd. The robot philosopher in Pascal's village had a name change from Sartre to Jean-Paul. Obviously this character is a direct reference to Jean-Paul Sartre but why change his name for the US version?
Is this some really strange form of censorship? It's a bizarre conclusion but I can't think of any other reason to do a name change from the much more identifiable Sartre to the less obvious Jean-Paul. Maybe making it less obvious was supposed to make it less "on the nose" but I find it extremely odd.
Is this some really strange form of censorship? It's a bizarre conclusion but I can't think of any other reason to do a name change from the much more identifiable Sartre to the less obvious Jean-Paul. Maybe making it less obvious was supposed to make it less "on the nose" but I find it extremely odd.
Copyright issues.
Everytime i hear him zooming around the map blaring his music i just internally smile.
It was a bit immersion breaking though cause he came around the crater just as A2 was going into the tower...they were trying to have this somber send off and here comes emil singing that damn song lmao
Yeah i think D is probably not the intended route. It makes me feel better cause A2 didn't deserve to get offed like that. And 9S just looked like even more of an idiot falling on someone else's sword and dying by accident
Oh duh. That would explain it.
He always does that shit with me!
Nice, somber moment
VROOM! YADEE HA CHO CHA CHE CHEE DE DOOOO!"
Steal from Emil twice, get all the lunar tears, activate ending Y
Sevyne
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Beauvoir had a name change of similar fashion. NA version changes the name to Simone. Both still being a reference to the same person (Simone de Beouvoir). I kind of feel you may be on the money in assuming they wanted to be less on the nose.
I see no issue with it, but an interesting change nonetheless.
Napalm_Frank
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Overall story 8/10
Ending credits 10/10
Ending credits 10/10
Man I'm buying a new GPU so selling off some of my stuff to make it easier and that includes selling this game off, but I don't want to for some reason eventhough I've done everything and got plat (semi-legit way, didn't bother to get trophies for grindy stuff).
Why do I have such an attachment to this game lol
Why do I have such an attachment to this game lol
It's one of the few games I'm actually really glad o have a physical copy of to keep. I'm still thinking about it. It's got 1-2 minor flaws, but I think it's this guy's magnum opus, the best game SE has released since at least FFXII, a masterpiece, and probably one of my favorite games ever.
The replicants died of age and new ones weren't created as there were no Gestalts to gather the data from for the Replicant creation system.
So Replicants weren't made to reproduce?
Brah Replicants weren't even made to be sapient
Johan Liebert
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They died from the Black Scrawl. RIP Kaine and Yonah.
Don't think about it.
I think the plan was that reproduction would come back once they were reunited with their Gestalts. But I haven't seen anything confirming or denying that.
My stuff's so cheap
That you will not believe how much you can save
So swing on by and then purchase things til you're broke
Prices so low that you need a great sword
To slash them more
Any lower would be illegal
Really
Everdays a sale
every sales a win
Buy stuff now or kick yourself later
Everdays a sale
every sales a win
I won't even charge or markup
Everdays a sale
every sales a win
Better buy now or you'll cry all night
Everdays a sale
every sales a win
Every day is great when you're me
He would have a song like that. What a goofball.
I thought the Replicants died of the black scrawl since all the Gestalts would relapse?
This is indeed the case.
According to Grimoire NieR the Replicants are taken to a facility and put to sleep by their overseeing androids, and then they're handed a Replicant baby.
Actually I've now just realized that the whole thing about Replicants is really in-line with this game's themes of endless cyclical content (they're even called the Recycled Vessels). The same bodies are constantly reborn over and over until the Black Scrawl kills them and wipes their DNA out of the pool.
Plague Doctor
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Just beat the third playthrough, and it's an amazing game.
I wish they did something more different in the second playthrough. It became a chore doing it back to back with the first one. The third picks it up amazingly though!
I wish they did something more different in the second playthrough. It became a chore doing it back to back with the first one. The third picks it up amazingly though!
KO Traveling Hobo
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Out of all of Taro's protagonists, I think Zero wins the Sufferlympics. She deserves freedom from Yoko Taro's wild ride.
The best thing about Zero is that
Caim and Nier are presented as traditional heroes who are eventually revealed to be messed up, but for Zero it's the opposite. The people she kills are all already dead and there's nothing she can do to save them, and her sisters are all monstrous fakes. She's arguably the most traditionally heroic Yoko protagonist.
Really? Even more than Emil?
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
I never really thought about it that way. Neat.
I don't know if I would call her stint as a serial killer after escaping the brothel "heroic" though :lol
I was referring to the main characters of the series. Emil probably wins overall, but at least he found happiness as a truck (unless you murder him, I mean).
Emil
Got kidnapped as a kid 5 suffering points
Turned into a weapon 2 suffering points
Lived for thousand years lonely with a butler in a scary house 5 suffering points
Eventually forced to kill his mutated sister 10 suffering points
Kills a village full of innocent people 8 suffering points
Gets nuked by Popola 10 suffering points
Rolls around headless for years, but has fun 3 suffering points
Eventually clones himself and fights alien invasions 10 suffering points
Goes insane 25 suffering points
Turns himself into a car +-0 suffering points
Total: 78 suffering points
Zero
Is sold by her own mother5.5 suffering points
Used as a prositute 15 suffering points
Gets betrayed and nearly killed by her friend 5 suffering points
Gets captioned and tortured 10 suffering points
Gets jumped on by evil gods 10 suffering points
Is then doomed to kill humanity 5 suffering points
Tries to kill herself, unsuccessfully 5 suffering points
Suddenly gives birth to a bunch of semiclones 10 suffering points
Is forced to run around and kill them all, but has fun on the journey 5 suffering points
"Dies" multiple times in the process 2 suffering points
Eventually becomes doom of mankind anyways 5 suffering points
Successfully killed anyways 5 suffering points
Theory: Comes back as Queenbeast and kills half of Fakeeurope until she's being killed in RealTokyo and eventually dooms Mankind to death with the white chlorination syndrome being the cause for everything 15 suffering points if true
Total: 82.5 or 97.5 suffering points
KO Traveling Hobo
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Nitpick: she wasn't enslaved, she was sold by her own mother. That's at least another .5ASU(Arbitrary Suffering Units).
True, i forgot about that detail.
People in the Taroverse sure don't have it easy