I beat the 2nd Emil fight but the trophy wouldn't trigger, so I'm glad I was able to buy that one. Still feel guilty about buying any of the other ones I didn't legitimately earn, so I'll just stuck with like an 80% trophy completion rate.
NieR: Automata Spoiler Thread
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I beat the 2nd Emil fight but the trophy wouldn't trigger, so I'm glad I was able to buy that one. Still feel guilty about buying any of the other ones I didn't legitimately earn, so I'll just stuck with like an 80% trophy completion rate.
Oh, that? I mean, I guess. Thought it'd be a more broad similarity tbh
Why feel guilty?
Trophies have more meaning to that person than you
No one has to know though, just keep it on the hush hush ;D
That's not the first time that the red girls make an appearance. You can see one of them briefly during a cutscene in the alien ship after the fight with Adam and Eve, meaning that they're separate from Adam and Eve.
thunder_snail
Member
Just got to ending E without 100% the game. Chose to delete my save files without backing up because emotions. This game did weird things to my feelings and I seem to have lost the ability to make sound decisions!
Time for that 2nd full playthrough...
Time for that 2nd full playthrough...
Valkyri von Thanatos
Member
Actually, it seems as though the lore dump the game gives you at the end says that the robots incorporated components of the human server within themselves, including the information remaining on the original Gestalt (Nier). The information on Yonah appears to have been old information from before Project Gestalt went fully under way. One interesting thing to note, the watcher symbol on Eve, the red eyes and the resemblance that the red girl (N2) sort of has to Manah/One makes me think the Watchers somehow influenced the machines as well, so they're a combination of their original programming, the information from the human server, and possibly some kind of inciting programming from the Watchers.
It'll be interesting to see if we can get a Grimoire Automata or something at some point to clear things up. Hopefully they realize that fans outside of Japan would be interested so we could potentially get a localized copy.
Just did this exact same thing for the same reason, haha. Deleting the file felt strangely conclusive to the experience of playing this game.
TissueBox
Member
OMG yes thank you I'll go watch this now. o_o
Yep the signs very clearly point to the Watchers having influenced the machines' eventual legacy. I just wonder when these questions will be answered and in what format...
Isaac Otherworld
Member
I didn't let the game delete my save until I got the Platinum trophy. If I get ending E again, I get the option to offer my save to the ether again right?
ShadowSoldier89
Member
So now that I'm home and can post easier. Reposting these
I feel like I was the only one that brought something Automata related for a signature.
She said to me: "Thank you so much for playing this game"
I wasnt able to ask her anything about her thoughts on it, but she seemed really sincere when she said that.
EDIT: Also, love kira in that last stream
I feel like I was the only one that brought something Automata related for a signature.
She said to me: "Thank you so much for playing this game"
I wasnt able to ask her anything about her thoughts on it, but she seemed really sincere when she said that.
EDIT: Also, love kira in that last stream
Finished.
I have a fuck ton of questions, but there is something that's irking me that's probably answered in the first game.
YorHa units were created with machine parts, thus they have to have been built post humans. So do the androids in general had some sort of heirarchy or government?
I have a fuck ton of questions, but there is something that's irking me that's probably answered in the first game.
YorHa units were created with machine parts, thus they have to have been built post humans. So do the androids in general had some sort of heirarchy or government?
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I mean, probably? The yorha are created by a set of androids and most of the other androids are probably unaware of them before they were built, because their whole point is to fool the remaining androids on earth.
There has to be some type of Androids in charge, keeping them going and motivated, but they're never seen in the game.
Someone has to have run maintenance on their Moon server, and though most supply rockets that go up there are empty, some had supplies, meaning there's recipients.
If you look around here, you'll see tons of theories on it. The above is what I personally believe.
unbiasedfanboy
Neo Member
I never post on Neo-gaf. Might need to fix that as I feel a deep bond with all you wonderful video game people even though we never talk.
That being said, I felt the need to finally post something after my experience with NieR: Automata. I don't have too much to say, just because I lack the words or eloquence to say anything that hasn't already been said.
Nothing has resonated with me like this game. I have dealt with a lot of bouts of depression in the past decade and have a train of thought that tends to lead down nihilistic paths. This game was an incredibly depressing journey (the good kind of depressing I think), but the ray of hope at the end was amazing. When I found out what was being done with ending E, I was in tears. What a profound and beautiful experience.
That being said, I felt the need to finally post something after my experience with NieR: Automata. I don't have too much to say, just because I lack the words or eloquence to say anything that hasn't already been said.
Nothing has resonated with me like this game. I have dealt with a lot of bouts of depression in the past decade and have a train of thought that tends to lead down nihilistic paths. This game was an incredibly depressing journey (the good kind of depressing I think), but the ray of hope at the end was amazing. When I found out what was being done with ending E, I was in tears. What a profound and beautiful experience.
I disagree. There is an interesting compare/contrast between Undertale and Automata on subjects they both touch
Undertale spoilers:
Undertale's pacifism is just the foundation from which it asks deeper questions from the player. Namely, the temptation of the Genocide run asks the player what it would take for them to discard the golden ending they worked so hard to achieve. In Undertale, the player irreparably tarnishes their save, unable to ever achieve the golden ending again,
for a selfish desire to seek new experiences. In Automata, ending E allows players to irreparably discard their save, wiping the record of their experiences, for a selfless desire to help strangers obtain the golden ending.
Both games also explore the concept of immortality and how it intersects with morality. Though the form of immortality is different in each game. In Undertale, the cycle of rebirth through DETERMINATION is what warps Flowey's (and potentially also the player's) perspective on the value of life. In Automata, androids and machines have a virtual immortality through being able to backup their data/memories. Despite this, 2B comes to value the life of an individual 9S, even when the YoRHa server was still intact
for a selfish desire to seek new experiences. In Automata, ending E allows players to irreparably discard their save, wiping the record of their experiences, for a selfless desire to help strangers obtain the golden ending.
Both games also explore the concept of immortality and how it intersects with morality. Though the form of immortality is different in each game. In Undertale, the cycle of rebirth through DETERMINATION is what warps Flowey's (and potentially also the player's) perspective on the value of life. In Automata, androids and machines have a virtual immortality through being able to backup their data/memories. Despite this, 2B comes to value the life of an individual 9S, even when the YoRHa server was still intact
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Undertale imposes that morality though. Ending E is still ultimately up to you to decide the worth of deleting your save, and the ultimate message of it all: in a world where our existences may prove ultimately meaningless, it is up to us to find meaning within ourselves.
Morality of immortality is explored in both games but I actually don't think nier's message is that immortality warps your sense of self.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
10 hours or so for a proper run through. More if you're a bad person.
StormBrute
Member
No, not very long. I'd say doing just one full, true ending playthrough can take between 4-7 hours, maybe 8 if you take your time.
Nope. You can do everything in 10 hours or so.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I mean it doesn't take that long to be fair, so it's easier to fit into than, say, persona 5. 
Was my favourite game the year it came out, but the comparisons I'm seeing between it and nier..... eh, I can see why one would think that, but I really don't think that they're that similar in the themes explored.
Was my favourite game the year it came out, but the comparisons I'm seeing between it and nier..... eh, I can see why one would think that, but I really don't think that they're that similar in the themes explored.
Dude, is that A2s VA?
Erghh stop. I have too many games and now I want to play Undertale
You need to play it. It's like Nier in that it's a great game to experience blind.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
yep yep, Cherami Leigh was at Tekko this weekend. Managed to get the autograph there
RubberLuffy
Banned
Now all that's left for you to do is spread the word of Nier to the masses lol
I'm so pressed over this game that I now actually lie in wait for podcasts and such that discuss it lol
StormBrute
Member
He did A2's ending, but they have one last stream coming up for final stuff they want to do plus 9S's ending and ending E.
So close. I need to get around to watching them.
unbiasedfanboy
Neo Member
I'm surprised how little discussion there is around it at the moment for how great of an experience it is. Patrick Klepek wrote a brief piece about ending E and talked about it on Waypoint radio a bit, but I haven't heard much talk about it on any podcasts.
I am certainly spreading the word far and wide. I've already ordered a PS4 copy to share with friends who I think should play it.
Is there a good breakdown of exactly what is happening in ending C? It's a bit vague.
A2 hacks into 9C with the intent to repair his logic and fix the corruption from the virus. She alludes to having a plan that the pod thinks is dangerous to her, but I'm not sure what that plan is. Then she reaches 9S' core data? Memories? Then Pod 042 takes 9S' body away from the tower. She stays behind to touch that pillar of light with the sounds of children laughing. I have no idea what that represents. Is that the virus? Then the tower collapses (without sending the ark into space? If so, good. Fuck Adam/Terminal/the machine network) and she is crushed, but rebuilt in ending E.
A2 hacks into 9C with the intent to repair his logic and fix the corruption from the virus. She alludes to having a plan that the pod thinks is dangerous to her, but I'm not sure what that plan is. Then she reaches 9S' core data? Memories? Then Pod 042 takes 9S' body away from the tower. She stays behind to touch that pillar of light with the sounds of children laughing. I have no idea what that represents. Is that the virus? Then the tower collapses (without sending the ark into space? If so, good. Fuck Adam/Terminal/the machine network) and she is crushed, but rebuilt in ending E.
Isaac Otherworld
Member
I got platinum legitimately and offered up my save to help other players. Feels good.
I really, really, really wish this game had a more balanced difficulty curve especially for coming back to the game.
Add a 10 or 20 second to cool down to healing items. Remove leveling for players and enemies and make health and damage determined by the difficulty setting. Rework the difficulty setting so that Easy=Anyone can beat. Normal=Can be challenging for players who put little effort towards things like weapon upgrades and chips. Hard=challenging for players who put a lot of effort towards chips and weapon upgrades. Insane=Challenging for players who completely understand the game systems and enemies and have maximized builds.
I really, really, really wish this game had a more balanced difficulty curve especially for coming back to the game.
Add a 10 or 20 second to cool down to healing items. Remove leveling for players and enemies and make health and damage determined by the difficulty setting. Rework the difficulty setting so that Easy=Anyone can beat. Normal=Can be challenging for players who put little effort towards things like weapon upgrades and chips. Hard=challenging for players who put a lot of effort towards chips and weapon upgrades. Insane=Challenging for players who completely understand the game systems and enemies and have maximized builds.
DreamedLint
Member
I feel like this game (and other action rpgs) would benefit greatly from using a level slider like the one in TWEWY. Have that completely replace a standard difficulty select and Nier: Automata would be way more satisfying in the combat department for longer.
I've been waiting to be able to check this thread out since launch haha. NieR provided such a unique experience for me in it's Grimoire NieR- reading up on the lore involving Drakengard, the White Chlorination Syndrome, and the extinction of humanity was so fascinating and I've seriously never been as enthralled by a game's premise. Reading up on people's interpretations of the symbolism and smaller details is so much fun and this one didn't disappoint.
Ending E is one of the best endings to a game I've ever seen. Genuinely powerful. One thing I want to know though, have we figured out anything regarding the Watchers yet? And are the two red haired machine girls Adam and Eve reincarnated and evolved? If anything, the distortion of their voices felt like a callback to the Watchers and Manah to me but I didn't understand the significance of that at first glance.
Ending E is one of the best endings to a game I've ever seen. Genuinely powerful. One thing I want to know though, have we figured out anything regarding the Watchers yet? And are the two red haired machine girls Adam and Eve reincarnated and evolved? If anything, the distortion of their voices felt like a callback to the Watchers and Manah to me but I didn't understand the significance of that at first glance.
The girls are just the machine server given conscious forms.(they outright say that). Its definitely a nod to Manah, though. (Hence they are not adam and eve reincarnated (they also appear in the stage play which is a prequel iirc))
The game offers no answers on the watchers but some questions. Especially regarding Eve's blackening, and symbol .
I see the danger there is more like a dangerous path to 9S mind(probably his memories deep inside). Thus puzzle-platforming you do to get to him.
A2 then suicides while destroying tower(the ray should represent tower here, why it is in 9S is another question but maybe he is connected to network after corruption)
She finally connects with her fallen teammates(laughs were like a representation of their good moments together).
The tower is destroyed either way in ending C/D. No ark in C tho.
Kyle McCarley, English VA of 9S.
He streamed whole N:A playthrough and will finish ending D/E today. Other English VAs appear as guests on stream regularly as they happen to live nearby like Kira Buckland(2B).
https://twitter.com/kylemccarley
OniBarubary
Banned
*scoffs* That's so pretentious of you *pushes invisible glasses up face, smugly*
I assumed that the ark launched in both endings and it's how the tower collapses. I thought that what A2 did was store his memories on the ark before it launched but I guess she would have no way of knowing it's an ark.
yeah, she told 9S that it is a weapon.
Also, it was Adam who invited 9S to join the Arc in D so it is probably not that easy to get there.
I mean what is the difference to Earth if Ark was released or tower just collapsed? Nothing will change for them at this moment.
Isaac Otherworld
Member
He is the most advanced unit. I don't know if other units had executioners or not.