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[Christoff Yurievich]

yeah, there and a few other places. That one in particular is the reason I think they are intentional, but he says there are others that don't sound like they are as much of a clean break. Haven't listened to the album enough to really pinpoint them, but I suppose with the official release only a few weeks away I'll have my answer soon enough.

 

[PartlyCloudlike]

Like a lot of other people, I didn't know what to expect for With Teeth but I must say I like it a lot. It will definitely be spinning in my comp at work.

 

[Sullichin]

yeah, there and a few other places. That one in particular is the reason I think they are intentional, but he says there are others that don't sound like they are as much of a clean break. Haven't listened to the album enough to really pinpoint them, but I suppose with the official release only a few weeks away I'll have my answer soon enough.

There's two in all the love in the world:

I've become a million miles awa-
Sometimes i get so lonely i coul-

In only, he stops himself when saying "sometimes i can see right through myself".

I like every single song on this album. A lot of people who don't like it seem to think NIN needs to fit to a single theme or musical style.. this is an incredibly diverse album and It's very cool hearing so many different types of songs on one CD.

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

after a week of listening to the album, the following is true:

all the love in the world - very good song that goes on for about 30 seconds too long. he needed to cut it off a bit short and didn't, but overall a top notch song

you know what you are? - awesome song, classic hard nin

the collector - pretty good. beginning starts off weak, but i like the chorus

bite the hand that feeds - awesome song. i dont care if its radio friendly, this song is the shit. i especially like the technoish solo during the middle. again, it does run on a bit too long at the end but oh well

only - great song

sunspots - great song

beside you in time - great song

right where it belongs - great song

getting smaller - decent song

line begins to blur - great song

with teeth, love is not enough, everyday is exactly the same = dont like them much

for those of you who haven't heard it yet, trust me the album is awesome overall. keep an open mind and give it a few listens at least before passing judgement

 

[Bebpo]

Yea, basically the entire albums grown on me with the exception of Besides You in Time. I just can't find anything to like it that song besides the instrumental stuff near the end. It's slow and bores the heck out of me ;_; OTOH Right Where it Belongs is slow and AWESOME

Only a week to go until the Japanese LE release. Getting excited

 

[Ollie Pooch]

Yea, basically the entire albums grown on me with the exception of Besides You in Time. I just can't find anything to like it that song besides the instrumental stuff near the end. It's slow and bores the heck out of me ;_; OTOH Right Where it Belongs is slow and AWESOME

Only a week to go until the Japanese LE release. Getting excited

ooooh, bumped ehhh

beside you in time is up there with 'you know what you are' and 'only' for my favourite songs on the album. i love BYIT becuase i know what's coming at the end, and the timing is great- it starts and sloooooowly builds up, stops and hangs for a while, then has that awesome final run to the massive climax.

i still think 'only' is the most surprising and rewarding track though - weird cos that's the one he was supposedly scared about releasing

 

[Ranger X]

**** WARNING ******

album of the year so far is coming out today. take your wallets to the fucking records store PLEASE.

With Teeth. It's been more than a week i'm listening to hit and i'm not yet tired.

Listing:

- All the love in the world: interesting song that sounds pretty new for NIN stuff. The beat may be a bit easy but the song is still strong and very catchy. Trent also sing at some notes he never reached before.
- You Know What You Are: nice song that you may not catch at the first listening. The "don't you fucking know what you are" part of the lyrics was a given but it doesn't make the song too cheesy. The last chorus blows my mind with the addition of some drama strings in the distorted background.
- The Collector: My weakest song of the album. Mostly because it's a song in 3/4 and i don't like rock in 3/4. I prefer non-classic or non-jazz music in 4/4. The chorus is still very nice.
- The Hand That Feeds: the very definition of a perfect single. The song is easy to approach yet deep enough in music arrangements to please some more serious music fans. Lyrics are nice and the beat is catchy. Everything goes along very well without an itch. It is not my favorite song but i would have chose this one for the first single too.
- Love Is Not Enough: This is an interesting song too. Hard to describe though. It's a basic "drum + bass" track but there's the usual industrial NIN sound through it. This song is the kind you may appreciate after a couple of listenings.
- Every Day Is Exactly The Same: Perfect second single imo (the real second one will be Only). The song is very different from The Hand that Feeds and boost another side of this album's sound. The song is very catchy and ANYBODY can sing the chorus in a snap at their first listening. Nice slow beat too, almost trip-hop. The lyrics also describe my bored mind pretty well so i really like this song!
- With Teeth: This is a fucking nice one too. The beat is Trent Reznor hot and original and that's what i like to hear. This song feels "sexual" i don't why, the lyrics aren't necessarily about sex but the song feels hot.
- Only:Now this is a surprise. This song is very different from the rest of the album and yet it so god damn fit. I'm surprised by the decision for this song to be the next single but i agree that it's catchy. There's some nice musical arrangements there too. The beat and feel of the song is almost 70s vibe couple with some 80s electronics. Very interesting mix (well, at least for people who knows something about music).
-Getting Smaller: average song. It really sound "americain" and i'm not particularly fond of it. Go buy a Queen of Stone Age album or something. It still fit in the album and creates a contrast with Only. I really like the lyrics of this one too.
-Sunspots:Another one that you may not catch at the first listening. It is alot deeper than you think though. This one have been my fav song for awhile after 5 or 6 days i was listening to the album. Trent signing is nice and the ambiance of the song is nice (even if maybe weird a little bit later during the song for some people). There's one distorted saw wave sound of some sort that you may not dig at first. But don't be turned off, this song will become lovely if you listen to it more i tell you.
- The Lines Begin To Blur: Here we are back at the more traditionnal NIN sound of distorted scorched beats. The lyrics are very good and the arrangements are dead on. This track may not be spectacular if you listen to it alone but it's a blast to listen on the album. The track is so fit at track 11 it's incredible.
-Beside You In Time: My favorite track. Trent Reznor is still a master. This track is that kind of over the top unpredictable song. It's very original and i feel like i've never heard a song like this. The kind of song only Trent Reznor seems to be able to create.
There's something "techno-ish" to it with it's beat that is fast and repetitive. Don't ask me why but the song still feel more rock than techno and that's what is magical about it. If you listen to it with concentration you are kind of hypnotised and when it peaks around 3:33 you're in for a musical orgasm as you will peak with the song. This song is impossible to be perceived as a single though. God i wish to hear it live, it would be a total blast. I may just die or something.
- Right Where it Belongs Again the listing of this album is so well done that i'm almost crying. After the peak with Beside You In Time, this song will lull you back into peace. The song is pretty quiet and it's all about it's ambiance + it's lyrics. The background of the song changes as Trent say "what if all the world around you isn't quite as it seems". Incredible. And the lyrics are pretty deep. The song brings you back to quietness and end the album on a thoughfull note. It's very well done.


ALBUM OF THE FUCKING YEAR (so far)

 

[Ollie Pooch]

got mine yesterday (thank YOU australian earlier release dates). feels different now i finally have the proper album in my hands instead of the leaked version .. hopefully the dualdisc version will arrive in my letterbox this week!

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

album of the year so far is coming out today.

Is the new Boards of Canada out already?

- The Lines Begin To Blur: The lyrics are very good.

Wow. You're allowed the rest of your hyperbolic ranting and short-sighted opinions, but really, I (and I'm sure many others, as seen in this thread) take huge exception to this statement. These are the worst lyrics of Trent's career, and knowing how wretched he is at writing, that means a lot. This song sounds like it's Trent's coming-out party and we're all invited into the mediocrity. I can't think of anything this song could be about except a first gay anal sex experience. You could say that's unique, but it's shallow and weak songwriting.

There are things I said I would never do
There are fears I can not believe have come true
For my soul is too sick and it's too little and too late
and myself I have grown to weary to hate

The more I stay in here
The more it's not so clear
The more I stay in here
The more I disappear

As far as I have gone
I knew what side I'm on
But now I'm not so sure
The line begins to blur

There's somebody on top of me
I don't know I don't know
Is anyone stopping me?
I don't know I don't know
I won't try and hold my breath
I don't know I don't know
Just how far can I go
I don't know I don't know

As I lay here
the fabric starts to tear
It's far beyond repair
And I don't really care

As far as I have gone
I knew what side I'm on
But now I'm not so sure
The line begins to blur

Again the listing of this album is so well done that i'm almost crying.

LOL! Yeah, NIN's a perfect fit for you.

Beside You in Time and Right Where It Belongs are both fucking ace though.

 

[SKluck]

After a couple hundred listens of the album, Line Beings to Blur is the worst song on the album. Followed pretty closely by Getting Smaller. I'm just not feeling them at all. I still don't see how people liked TLBTB more than Hand that Feeds when they were leaked. You Know Who You Are isn't that great either, but it's intense enough to be forgiven for it's cliche-ness.

 

[Ranger X]

Liu Kang
Lyrics are something extremely personal and can never be judged rationally. Good lyrics = lyrics that catches you and that's all. It did catch me, it did not catch you. There's nothing to argue about.

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

wow, you guys dont like the line begins to blur? that song is awesome dudes

as is the whole album

 

[Kabuki Waq]

i dunno man as much as i like NiN the lyrics do seem like they would be a perfect fit for the next linkin park song.

 

[Christoff Yurievich]

I can't think of anything this song could be about except a first gay anal sex experience.

I'll have you know that ever since the first time you said this it's been stuck in my mind.

 

[Dilbert]

Lyrics are something extremely personal and can never be judged rationally. Good lyrics = lyrics that catches you and that's all. It did catch me, it did not catch you. There's nothing to argue about.

Sorry, I have to disagree. You can certainly have opinions about which lyrics you LIKE, and that is truly personal. However, judged from a literary point of view, most NIN lyrics are simplistic and clichéd. The song which was quoted in LKBAP's post was particularly awful. I routinely hear better from 16-year-olds at open mic poetry events.

Of course, a LOT of rock music falls into that vein -- it's hardly that NIN is the worst offender.

 

[Sullichin]

My dualdisc/picture disc/tshirt combo did not arrive yet. UPS will die If I do not get it today (paid $18 shipping so I would get it today). People will die.

I went to Bestbuy and picked up the standard CD, anyway ($9.99). I've had the album since the leak but it's awesome to have the real thing. I am dying to hear it in surround sound. This album is SO fucking good.

http://www.nin.com/with_teeth

Edit: My dualdisc came. Holy fuck, this album is AMAZING in 5.1

 

[Prospero]

I just listened to it. It's no Broken, or Fragile, or Downward Spiral, but it isn't bad, and worth the $9.99 I spent. The late-'70s Bowie influence is strong here, as it is in Downward Spiral and Fragile. I will say that it's the first NIN album that I've listened to and thought, "This is good, but it's more of the same."

Highlights for me are tracks 6 (Every Day is Exactly the Same, or whatever the title is) and 8 (Only). Track 12 (Beside You in Time) sounds like fake Philip Glass and should have been left off, and track 11 (The Line Begins to Blur) can go with it as far as I'm concerned. Track 13 (Right Where It Belongs) was on its way to being the best NIN song ever until he dicked it up by including the crowd noise.

Sunspots is one track that I can see growing on me.

EDIT: one thing about the packaging. I don't necessarily expect the lyrics to be included, but can I at least have a list of personnel who worked on the album? I don't want to have to go to a website to read it, and I sure as hell don't want to go to a website and then put the CD in my drive and then register to read a simple list of personnel. "What, that's too much work?" say GAFfers who think everything Trent does is perfect. Yes: yes, it is.

 

[Sullichin]

I'm the biggest NIN fan you'll ever see, and I think the PDF is stupid. Really annoying sifting through that shit just to read lyrics/credits :/

I might get it printed out at Staples or something, though.

EDIT: You don't need to have the CD in your computer anymore, btw, it works when you just go to the address now. And you CAN save it to your computer

 

[karasu]

Sorry, I have to disagree. You can certainly have opinions about which lyrics you LIKE, and that is truly personal. However, judged from a literary point of view, most NIN lyrics are simplistic and clichéd. The song which was quoted in LKBAP's post was particularly awful. I routinely hear better from 16-year-olds at open mic poetry events.

Of course, a LOT of rock music falls into that vein -- it's hardly that NIN is the worst offender.

well, that's your opinion. It's not a fact. Simplicity isn't necessarily a fault, and as for cliche, come on it's 2005. Most everything is cliche, especially as far feelings are concerned.

 

[kitchenmotors]

I will say that it's the first NIN album that I've listened to and thought, "This is good, but it's more of the same."

Really? If anything, I feel it's not more of the same. It's completely different in terms of production, vocal style, lyric style and sound.

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

nin lyrics are sometimes cheesy but you can name any band on the planet and i can point out some bullshit 9th grade poetry corner lyrics they have.

i think the situation (For me) is the following:

for instance there are nin songs that i enjoy (musically and lyrically) that i would dislike if a band like bright eyes or linkin park or some shit band did them. i don't know if it's the fact that nin has earned my respect and admiration with past works or what, but there is just something about nin doing the song that makes it ok. i guess you can call that hardcore bias, but oh well!

 

[tt_deeb]

I've only gotten to listen to the first track but I like the new style so far. I'm going to listen to the whole thing tonight.

 

[gigapower]

I've given it multiple spins and as a long time NIN fan, I just don't like it.

 

[AirBrian]

Mixed feelings (from a long-time NIN fan)...first half isn't that great, but the second half is gold.

 

[Cold-Steel]

Really great album, I picked up the 5.1 version and to say the least - you'll never want to listen to this in Stereo again.

 

[boredJonathan]

Love the actual album, but seriously dissapointed in the artwork and packaging for this album. I mean, I could come up with this albums art direction, and I am most definately not and artist. The packaging, especialy considering the artist, is a damn travesty. I'd go so far as to say that since Broken the actual albums have all had very good to fantastic packaging. Look at And All That Could Have Been: A hard canvas box, with a sturdy digipack inside it. This is just a simple digipack with a picture of Trent and a request to go to the website.

The album rocks, but I wish I would have just nabbed it off of iTunes at this point.

EDIT - Apparently, I'm not the only one who feels this way as Trent replied to the question of 'Why no booklet?' on nin.com. Basically saying that he didn't feel it was right to people who would grab the music off of iTunes. Well... call me silly but the reason I went out and bought the actual CD was for the packaging. I realize the other reasons given in terms of the market place and retail not being friendly to these extravagent packaging ideas... but he's done it in the past. Made comments about how he felt album artwork was dying; that it needed to be supported. I just don't understand this move. It bothers me.

Oh well... moutain out of a mole hill from me.

 

[Ollie Pooch]

Love the actual album, but seriously dissapointed in the artwork and packaging for this album. I mean, I could come up with this albums art direction, and I am most definately not and artist. The packaging, especialy considering the artist, is a damn travesty. I'd go so far as to say that since Broken the actual albums have all had very good to fantastic packaging. Look at And All That Could Have Been: A hard canvas box, with a sturdy digipack inside it. This is just a simple digipack with a picture of Trent and a request to go to the website.

i personally love the design of the packaging - more for the visuals than the actual construction/no-book thing. however,having had the album since sunday, i've already put the case away in my shelf with all the other cds - i tend to agree with trent that there's no point going nuts on packaging when heaps of people won't even give it a second look once it's on their ipod (which is exactly the case with me). it would have been nice to have paid less because of the simple artwork though

i think this is the beginning of a new direction for himself and the way he presents his work..

 

[Musashi Wins!]

Sorry, I have to disagree. You can certainly have opinions about which lyrics you LIKE, and that is truly personal. However, judged from a literary point of view, most NIN lyrics are simplistic and clichéd. The song which was quoted in LKBAP's post was particularly awful. I routinely hear better from 16-year-olds at open mic poetry events.

Of course, a LOT of rock music falls into that vein -- it's hardly that NIN is the worst offender.

A lot of sentiment and cliche works in the space of songs that doesn't at open mic. It's a lot less painful to witness as well.

That said...I thought Fragile was a giant bowl of shit because lyrically/thematically it was a total cop out creatively from their early angsty albums. Downward Spiral absolutely destroys it. It's a far more interesting album.

I guess that's why I still haven't listened to this one. I didn't want to rub in another band from the 90's that seemed gone. But I think I will see how it compares given the good reception it's received here.

 

[Prospero]

After listening to it twice more, I agree with a friend of mine who said, "It sounds okay now, but in a month's time, when you say to yourself, 'I want to listen to some Nine Inch Nails,' you'll pull out any album but this one."

 

[Christoff Yurievich]

Love the actual album, but seriously dissapointed in the artwork and packaging for this album. I mean, I could come up with this albums art direction, and I am most definately not and artist. The packaging, especialy considering the artist, is a damn travesty. I'd go so far as to say that since Broken the actual albums have all had very good to fantastic packaging. Look at And All That Could Have Been: A hard canvas box, with a sturdy digipack inside it. This is just a simple digipack with a picture of Trent and a request to go to the website.

The album rocks, but I wish I would have just nabbed it off of iTunes at this point.

EDIT - Apparently, I'm not the only one who feels this way as Trent replied to the question of 'Why no booklet?' on nin.com. Basically saying that he didn't feel it was right to people who would grab the music off of iTunes. Well... call me silly but the reason I went out and bought the actual CD was for the packaging. I realize the other reasons given in terms of the market place and retail not being friendly to these extravagent packaging ideas... but he's done it in the past. Made comments about how he felt album artwork was dying; that it needed to be supported. I just don't understand this move. It bothers me.

Oh well... moutain out of a mole hill from me.

well, I was looking for the proof but there are some "access" posts missing from the NIN website. What I was looking for was when Trent was talking about the packaging. i took what he said as meaning it was going to be pretty cool, like Beck's Guero SE or the Green Day American Idiot book. I guess he was talking about the damn PDF.

 

[vitaflo]

Really not impressed with this album. It's just too....poppy. I can't think of a better word, but it just doesn't have passion to me.

Then again I think his best work was Broken/Fixed, and of course this is nothing like that, so I was bound to be disappointed.

 

[tt_deeb]

I have a very mixed impression so far. When I first heard it all the way through it didn't seem too special to me except for the obvious different styled tracks such as "All the love in the world" and "The hands that feeds." Something about the vocals in the song is "lighter/optimistic"...I don't know, it's just a different feel. But everything else seemed to be too simple - not enough going on, lyrics are atrocious as usual (but that's never been the reason to buy a NIN album).

I just put it on surround sound and HOLY SHIT there's a hell of a lot more going on than I thought. The second track just explodes, I thought there were cats fighting or something. The sounds were swooshing and scratching all over the place. It was really cool. The CD just rips your face off when you blast it with surround sound. I've only listened to the first half like this so we'll see if it gets old or anything.

A lot of people are saying the second half is better, I haven't noticed much of a difference in quality. If anything I prefer the first.

 

[Christoff Yurievich]

[With_Teeth] 5.1 = super awesome.

 

[JPRaup]

pretty good album, just some good average listening

 

[nitewulf]

how is it musically? someone mentioned 80's synth pop influences?

 

[Ollie Pooch]

how is it musically? someone mentioned 80's synth pop influences?

the only real 80s sounding track is 'only' - the rest is more like a combination of styles from his other albums, but far more focused (in my opinion of course)

 

[SKluck]

The Dualdisc kind of pisses me off. No pause, seek, skip, etc.

 

[Christoff Yurievich]

The Dualdisc kind of pisses me off. No pause, seek, skip, etc.

what pisses me off about the DD is that I've only played it three times in my DVD player and the CD side is already scratched to hell. I'm going to have to rip the DVD side just so I don't scratch it anymore.

 

[Sullichin]

The Dualdisc kind of pisses me off. No pause, seek, skip, etc.

You don't have a DVD remote? Why would you want to navigate to a menu item to skip a song or pause?

 

[SKluck]

Well I mean no normal options, like repeat or shit. Just kind of annoying. Lack of seeking sucks a lot. You can't pause because if you press the play button again it restarts the song.

 

[tt_deeb]

Yeah, I'm definately liking all the tracks here.

 

[Red Scarlet]

I've only heard negative reviews offline, but I'm grabbing it anyway. I'll give it a listen tomorrow. Didn't like The Fragile (although I've only heard most of the Left side of that, never bothered to try the Right); last album I liked was The Downward Spiral.

Hope it's good.

 

[Hooker]

My favourite album of the year so far

 

[Prospero]

the only real 80s sounding track is 'only'

To be more precise, "Only" sounds almost exactly like tracks from the second side of David Bowie's 1979 album Lodger.

 

[Foreign Jackass]

Album is available for steaming on NME.com. And it is very boring.

 

[Sullichin]

Well I mean no normal options, like repeat or shit. Just kind of annoying. Lack of seeking sucks a lot. You can't pause because if you press the play button again it restarts the song.

Hmm, when I press pause/play it pauses, and then resumes where it left off when I press it again. I can seek with my remote as well

 

[Christoff Yurievich]

as has been noted in the past, the options change depending on what type of DVD player you have.

If you look at the DVD logo on your player, it will be one of these two:

or

 

[teruterubozu]

Basically if you loved "The Fragile" you'll hate "With Teeth".

I hate "The Fragile", like some of "The Downward Spiral" and love "Pretty Hate Machine".
"With Teeth" goes right back to Trent's "Pretty Hate Machine" roots with 80's sounds and crunching guitars. This album rocks!
He's full of hate, anger and anti-establishment rage again!

 

[Joeholley]

Got the Dual Disk version and I can't get my PC to recognize the CD side. Eventually just had to get the MP3s via a friend in order to get it onto my Nomad. Lame. Atleast the DVD content is cool.

 

[tt_deeb]

Basically if you loved "The Fragile" you'll hate "With Teeth".

I disagree. The Fragile is my favorite NIN album. And although With Teeth is more along the lines of The Downward Spiral and Pretty Hate Machine I still like that too, it is possible.