Nintendo confirms - No VRR for Switch 2 in TV mode
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LordOcidax
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Is going to be G-Sync only when docked until Nintendo resolves the issue.
Mr Moose
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They said it would come later after launch in a FAQ. This seems to be the opposite of that. They said they have it but it was a mistake and removed it fast.
baphomet
Member
Well we have at least 1 at launch, possibly more.
You couldn't pay me to hook a Switch 2 up to a TV and play games at 1080p, so I don't care either way.
Just pointing out that VRR on an OLED is literally top tier if you're not playing games with terrible implementation.
willothedog
Member
Pro dock confirmed.
Sebastian1295
Member
How many switch 2 games do you expect to be locked at there respective framerates with no screen tearing? Because we know that a ton of switch 2 games, especially third party ones aren't going to be optimized the best and it's going to lead to a mess of games running with bad frame pacing on the switch 2. VRR could've been used to help clear that up.
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Shaki12345
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This is heartbreaking news.
Question for the experts: is it still possible to be added later on this dock?
Question for the experts: is it still possible to be added later on this dock?
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
I honestly don't know. I strongly suspect that either a) they intended to have VRR but ran into some software/firmware issues that may or may not be fixed later, or b) at some point in development they had a dock/intended for a dock with VRR support but they decided to go with something cheaper.
Call me cynical but I highly doubt that this was just "oopsie, the guy who wrote that product page just got this idea from his own imagination".
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ValiantInstance
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Hooking a Switch 2 up to a tv is the whole point of this thread
Freesync Premium or something is fantastic on a pc yes, I use a 42 inch LG C2 as a monitor. My point was that for consoles its almost pointless because of VRR flicker. It should work fantastic on the Switch 2's LCD though.
The higher the frame rate, the less an issue this becomes.
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LordOcidax
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Yes. Also they can enable GSync day 1.
Sebastian1295
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I don't think the dock has the capability of doing it at all. The dock dosen't even have hdmi 2.1 ports i believe meaning it's impossible for this to be implemented as of now. For example PS5 has a native HDMI output while Switch 2 has USB-C DP Alt mode converted to HDMI by the dock. There is no converter IC that support VESA Adaptive Sync to HDMI VRR at the moment. Someone can correct me if i'm wrong on this.
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BlackTron
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Please understand
Bojji
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Something must be wrong with your tv or signal source (pc/console). VRR works very good on OLED tvs.
Generic
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And it didn't even include Mario Galaxy 2.Honestly my beef with nintendo is the fact they used to be more pro consumer then they used to be. Now they just put two middle fingers in the air and try nickle and diming consumers over every little thing to the point that it's insane. The biggest one to me that happened a couple of years ago is when they lauched the 3D mario all-stars collection on switch only for a limited time and then stopped selling it both physically and on the nintendo e-shop loll.
Sebastian1295
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Ya which is baffling. I honestly don't understand nintendo at all anymore, and it feels like they're too busy worrying about profits and in turn they're losing there identity. You can see it with the themepark openings, movies, etc that there priorities are all about money money money and they'd done away with anything pro consumer. They're the most anti-consumer gaming company in the industry.
FeastYoEyes
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Legit shitty to not have that figured out before you do a presentation. How do you not know this before announcing it?
baphomet
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You're not getting docked G-Sync either. You can thank Nintendo for cheaping out and going with HDMI 2.0 in 2025.
Mr Moose
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Maybe, maybe not.
Topher
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ps5 VRR take years nothing burgers with bacons cheese frys pepsi annnnd porbably milkshack
So still "nothing burgers" if Nintendo says it will never have VRR in docked mode? Say what you want about Sony but at least they made it clear that PS5 would be updated with VRR at some point. Nintendo can't be bothered to say one way or another.
BlackTron
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Galaxy 2 is literally physically impossible without real Wii remote tech. PC Bros may be able to tolerate it with some kind of duct tape solution with a gyro controller but it would never pass Nintendo's standards for accessibility of normal casual customer.
STARSBarry
Gold Member
So essentially Cyberpunk has a unique 40 FPS hand held mode you cant use docked... what the fuck Nintendo...
Mister Wolf
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PC = survival of the fittest.
LordOcidax
Member
G-Sync and HDMI Forum VRR works almost the same 20hz- 60hz and G-Sync works on HDMI 2.0…. HDMI 2.1 is a certification in this case of HDMI Forum VRR support. If Nvidia and Nintendo can solve display port communication issue between the TV and the Dock they can patch it easily. Is technically possible.
From Rtings.com
"You can get both FreeSync and native G-SYNC VRR over DisplayPort as long as the monitor supports it. However, while FreeSync and native G-SYNC work over HDMI, G-SYNC Compatible doesn't. That said, if a monitor supports HDMI Forum VRR, then VRR will work with NVIDIA graphics cards over HDMI"
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LordOcidax
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G-Sync works over HDMI 2.0…
Arioco
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Yes, SONY advertised VRR as one of PS5's features and said they'd implement it at some point after launch. They didn't say it'd take 3 f*cking years, though. Some people started to wonder if PS5 really supported VRR, but the specs were always there on the Playstation Blog.
They never said anything about Dolby Atmos, though. That was a pleasant and unexpected surprise.
Baemono
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You don't understand the words you're using.
A republic and a monarchy can be constitutional, and both can be a democracy.
It's like saying:
Nintendo = console
Sony = gaming console
Xbox = gaming
BlackTron
Member
This opens up all kinds of questions as to whether the issue is the dock, and what will happen if I try the generic 4k laptop dock that works with my Switch 1 on the Switch 2.
Yeah I doubt VRR will magically come out but the entire thing gets more thought provoking, especially if it does work on the handheld screen so the support exists in software somewhere. Kind of thing that makes you wonder if you have some kind of USB C dock and modded Switch 2 it could be flipped on with one line of code lol.
Yeah I doubt VRR will magically come out but the entire thing gets more thought provoking, especially if it does work on the handheld screen so the support exists in software somewhere. Kind of thing that makes you wonder if you have some kind of USB C dock and modded Switch 2 it could be flipped on with one line of code lol.
baphomet
Member
No it doesn't
Mister Wolf
Member
Why wouldn't you be able the use a 40fps mode on a 120hz TV? Divides evenly.
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Baemono
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Come on now, it's not because VRR starts to be a thing that all of a sudden all games will have frame pacing and screen tearing. It's like thinking native resolution doesn't exist anymore because we have FSR/PSSR/DLSS.
diffusionx
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I think it is because 40fps works in the 120hz container. you need the bandwidth in the HDMI to do 120fps.
Mister Wolf
Member
The system can do 120hz in TV mode. That was already confirmed with Prime 4.
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SILKYSMOOTH30FPS
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Not the kind of tech i see Nintendo discovering before 2035.
LordOcidax
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20hz-60hz range is supported.
baphomet
Member
That's isn't a problem. It'll be able to do 40fps modes at anything below 4k. Just not with VRR.
Baemono
Member
The handheld screen already has VRR
Shaki12345
Banned
It's a problem if there's a inconsistent framerate/time.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
It comes as a shock because it is supported in handheld mode.
baphomet
Member
That has nothing to do with if it does or doesn't support 40fps modes.
Christ you don't have a clue.
It was less than a year and a half after launch when they enabled it, not 3 years. It took a little longer for 1440p VRR support but that was something I don't even think was advertised at all.
diffusionx
Gold Member
ok... then yea it should be able to do 40fps.
VRR's official spec doesnt even support going as low as 40fps so I think these are two different issues. Im not an expert on this stuff and just got a TV that does VRR a few weeks ago.
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STARSBarry
Gold Member
sorry that's just me, for whatever reason when I switch to a 40FPS mode in a PS5 game it seems to switch my TV to VRR, but that might be something with how those games handle their 40 FPS modes.
Arioco
Member
Yes, I just checked and you're absolutely right, VRR support took about a year and a half (I guess I waited so eagerly that it looked to me longer that it actually was), it was VRR for 1440p which took longer, as you said. But again, 1440p support was never even promised by SONY, let alone VRR support for that resolution.
Hopefully Nintendo will do the same at some point in the future if its userbase really demand it, but it's hard to know because... it's Nintendo.
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baphomet
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It'll take a new dock
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