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Nintendo now owns the Ryujinx.org domain

Topher

Identifies as young
Nintendo owns ryujinx.org, not Ryujinx.

Ryujinx is open source and Nintendo has no control over the many forks that are now being worked on after the main distribution was halted.

Why can't Nintendo shut down all those forks like they did with Yuzu?
 

Gaiff

SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Why can't Nintendo shut down all those forks like they did with Yuzu?
The main devs of Yuzu were providing illegal keys to pirate roms before their release date. TOTK was playable on PC before its official launch on Switch. They were also bragging about all the money they were making. The main branch got shot down, but there are still active forks.
 
How does someone "own" open source code like this? Is it just the trademark and logo?

In theory they can't come after you if you can prove the software was developed in a clean room, but the thing both switch emulators teams don't talk about is how they basically used the original SDK to reverse engineer a lot of the internal firmware, and one of the two even contained code stolen in one of the leaks, which is when Nintendo smelt the blood form my understanding.
 
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Astray

Member
The main branch got shot down, but there are still active forks.
How active are they really?

We have not really heard of any meaningful progress since Nintendo managed to lock out the original dev team from working on the code.
 

Pejo

Gold Member
The main devs of Yuzu were providing illegal keys to pirate roms before their release date. TOTK was playable on PC before its official launch on Switch. They were also bragging about all the money they were making. The main branch got shot down, but there are still active forks.
Also MS retains the right to take down whatever they want on the platform. Call it a favor to Nintendo or some sort of back room deal, but I'm sure the platform itself had a part in the massive takedown for Yuzu.
 

Topher

Identifies as young
The main devs of Yuzu were providing illegal keys to pirate roms before their release date. TOTK was playable on PC before its official launch on Switch. They were also bragging about all the money they were making. The main branch got shot down, but there are still active forks.

See that link I posted. Looks like they were all taken down. I don't see any forks on github.
 

ReBurn

Gold Member
Emulation isn't illegal, they were able to shut down Yuxu because the retards behind it were asking for money.
Emulation may be legal, but if Nintendo somehow obtained ownership of the source from the people who created Ryujinx they can close the source and can shut down forks via DMCA. The only reliable way to preserve it is to have downloaded a copy locally. Just because something is open source doesn't mean that nobody owns it.
 

Gaiff

SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
See that link I posted. Looks like they were all taken down. I don't see any forks on github.
Not on Github. The owners of the site likely didn’t wanna deal with the legal fallout so they took everything down. There are still other repositories out there, but they’re not very active and headed by tiny teams and not much progress has been made.
 

Astray

Member
Also MS retains the right to take down whatever they want on the platform. Call it a favor to Nintendo or some sort of back room deal, but I'm sure the platform itself had a part in the massive takedown for Yuzu.
A simple DMCA takedown request, unless contested by the github user (which requires posting personal info), is something that Microsoft is compelled to oblige by law.

I am not a fan of Microsoft, but their hands are tied there.
 

Three

Gold Member
Emulation may be legal, but if Nintendo somehow obtained ownership of the source from the people who created Ryujinx they can close the source and can shut down forks via DMCA. The only reliable way to preserve it is to have downloaded a copy locally. Just because something is open source doesn't mean that nobody owns it.
It depends on the license they provided it under. It was an MIT licence I think so they can't shut down forks with a DMCA as far as I know unless that original copy of the MIT licence was altered by the fork.
 
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Me thinks they're trying to eliminate the competition in preparation for the BC of the next Switch, or maybe there's valuable software/code they could use from Ryujinx in their emulation efforts for the next console.

Nintendo: Jinx you owe me a soda
 
Rooting for anyone to move forward with Ryujinx. I never got around to beating Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and getting back into it since with emulators you can use 21:9 mods. Mods to get rid of chromatic aberration. Render at a higher resolution. I don't even play on my desktop. Stream it to a large display phone from my desktop. Looks great. And I do own my games. I have like 60 Switch games purchased
 

bender

What time is it?
Why can't Nintendo shut down all those forks like they did with Yuzu?
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ReyBrujo

Member
Why can't Nintendo shut down all those forks like they did with Yuzu?

They don't own the code (which they did with Yuzu), so it is trickier for them to take down Ryujinx. They could, in theory, go for trademark infringement if they now own the "Ryujinx" name until they are able to make a legal case against one of the forks.
 

tkscz

Member
So is this the deal the original Ryujynx creators were talking about? I wonder how much they got for this domain?
 

Polygonal_Sprite

Gold Member
Compared to Sony and Microsoft all Nintendo have is their IP. I expect them to continue this recent rampage in an effort to protect it.
 
Should’ve done this long time ago. When Switch was getting old and incapable of competing with emulated games.

Now they are just pissing off hackers who will come back with a vengeance for Switch 2.
 

Shifty1897

Member
So is this the deal the original Ryujynx creators were talking about? I wonder how much they got for this domain?
This is Nintendo lawyers we're talking about. This deal was probably the only way they could see another sunrise that wasn't through a barred cell window.
 

Kataploom

Gold Member
I don't think they have anything of value for their own developments, they literally have experts on emulation and specifics about their own systems more than anyone else... They just saw that it was faster, cheaper or even just feasible to buy the emulator rights in order to get it out of their way
 
Why aren't these emulators hosted and developed on torrent sites like Fitgirl etc? This way they won't earn DMCAs.
btw emulators are legal, but the devs avoid all the hassle with the false lawsuits by hosting them on sites with cracked games.
 
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RoboFu

One of the green rats
Why aren't these emulators hosted and developed on torrent sites like Fitgirl etc? This way they won't earn DMCAs.
btw emulators are legal, but the devs avoid all the hassle with the false lawsuits by hosting them on sites with cracked games.

emulators are legal.,but the bios and OS used are not free or legal to use in those emulators. the older consoles dont have an OS just the bios. but newer-ish console do and the latest console all have EULA that say you cannot legal use the system os on anything other than a real system. Some people write their own bios for older systems and that is why clone systems of old consoles are okay but a switch emulator running the switch OS is not.
 

kiphalfton

Member
Damn, so this is what a major video game company can buy, by primarily selling remasters for the past 7 year.

Get good Sony and Microsoft.
 

nkarafo

Member
Why aren't these emulators hosted and developed on torrent sites like Fitgirl etc? This way they won't earn DMCAs.
Sites like Fitgirl are specifically for downloading pirated repacks.

Emulation is already getting too much unfair treatment by all the corporate apologists out there, being hosted in such sites isn't going to make their case any better.
 

coffinbirth

Member
Emulation may be legal, but if Nintendo somehow obtained ownership of the source from the people who created Ryujinx they can close the source and can shut down forks via DMCA. The only reliable way to preserve it is to have downloaded a copy locally. Just because something is open source doesn't mean that nobody owns it.
No, Ryujinx was published as unlicensed code into the public domain for this very reason, and not a GPL.
You cannot DMCA public domain...which is why alllll of the Ryujinx forks are still on Gihub with the hard/main fork still getting nightlies. They will eventually have to change the name though.

This is also why Nintendo PAID this man, as opposed to the Yuzu situation.

Nintendo bought a little time, nothing more.
 

Needlecrash

Member
No, Ryujinx was published as unlicensed code into the public domain for this very reason, and not a GPL.
You cannot DMCA public domain...which is why alllll of the Ryujinx forks are still on Gihub with the hard/main fork still getting nightlies. They will eventually have to change the name though.

This is also why Nintendo PAID this man, as opposed to the Yuzu situation.

Nintendo bought a little time, nothing more.
This tracks. The owner of Ryujinx was "contacted" by Nintendo; as opposed as a DMCA takedown. HUH.
 

coffinbirth

Member
Sites like Fitgirl are specifically for downloading pirated repacks.

Emulation is already getting too much unfair treatment by all the corporate apologists out there, being hosted in such sites isn't going to make their case any better.
Fitgirl has been repacking Switch games with preconfigured Yuzu and Ryujinx builds as standalone launchers for quite awhile now, including leaks before official release dates. I wholly agree with you, but it's already a thing.
 
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