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[Mozza]

The problem isn't the price of the console, it's that everything else is a rip-off: games, accessories, etc.

Not a lot of context or nuance to this comment. Most Nintendo games are evergreen titles. Very much so in the case of Mario Kart. You could play it and complete it, then sell it on for very close to what you paid. So not really apples and apples.

 

[Famipan]

46% tariff on Vietnam, so 449x1,46 = 655,55 USD or if Nintendo are kind they might go with 599USD lol

*edit. Trump: "I would personally LUW IT seeing a 999 USD NinTenDoo video GAME BOY deVICE! The video game industry is destroooying our country! Don't you think it's better to play golf or baseball? I think so"

 

[ReBurn]

"Because we can" seems a little too honest.

Parsimony. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. They're charging more for first party games because they probably can. Same for hardware. If it ends up like 3DS after launch then they'll adjust because they'll have to. But you never know what you can get away with unless you try.

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

What did people say on here. That it was unfair to compare a console that had been out for years to a new one just coming out.

I don't care what people said. Comparing the Switch 2 to a PS5 Pro and acting like the PS5 Pro is the standard PS5 is stupid and even more stupid when you make up prices and add $100 to the Pro's price to prove a dumb point.

 

[Mozza]

I don't care what people said. Comparing the Switch 2 to a PS5 Pro and acting like the PS5 Pro is the standard PS5 is stupid and even more stupid when you make up prices and add $100 to the Pro's price to prove a dumb point.

Agree. These consoles opperate in totally different spaces so why compare pricing in the first place. They will both sell for what the market will stand.

 

[cripterion]

The joycons don't have hall effect, these things will fucking suck and be drifting left and right.

 

[Mozza]

The joycons don't have hall effect, these things will fucking suck and be drifting left and right.

Evidence please. My original launch joycons on the Switch have never drifted.

 

[ReBurn]

46% tariff on Vietnam, so 449x1,46 = 655,55 USD or if Nintendo are kind they might go with 599USD lol

I have doubts that a $599 price would fly with most customers. The hardcore early adopters might pay it, but the average customer probably won't. Nintendo would have to eat more of the tariff than that. At this point I wouldn't be surprised to see a launch delay in the US while the US and Vietnam figure it out.

 

[Spukc]

The joycons don't have hall effect, these things will fucking suck and be drifting left and right.

joystick replacements for the joycons cost like a dollar.
replacing them is like 15 minutes

you young whippersnappers really need to learn a real trade instead of the internets

 

[cripterion]

Evidence please. My original launch joycons on the Switch have never drifted.

Evidence? Are you fucking kidding me? How about that?

Nintendo president apologizes for Joy-Con drift

“We are continuing to aim to improve our products”

www.polygon.com

I have 6 of these fuckers and 5 of them drift. 7 if you include the stick on the switch lite. It's shit hardware and they're doing it again.

joystick replacements for the joycons cost like a dollar.
replacing them is like 15 minutes

you young whippersnappers really need to learn a real trade instead of the internets

Good and well but why should it fall on the customer to do that? Maybe tell that to Nintendo

 

[Spukc]

Evidence? Are you fucking kidding me? How about that?

Nintendo president apologizes for Joy-Con drift

“We are continuing to aim to improve our products”

www.polygon.com

I have 6 of these fuckers and 5 of them drift. 7 if you include the stick on the switch lite. It's shit hardware and they're doing it again.


Good and well but why should it fall on the customer to do that? Maybe tell that to Nintendo

Hey in europe we are protected for 2 years. So Nintendo is getting royally fucked with low quality shit here.
Mines failed after 3 years all 4 (2 failed in warranty) of them so i replaced them out of warranty.

 

[cripterion]

Hey in europe we are protected for 2 years. So Nintendo is getting royally fucked with low quality shit here.
Mines failed after 3 years all 4 (2 failed in warranty) of them so i replaced them out of warranty.

I'm just appalled that they had this problem with the first one and they're so cheap that they didn't wanna invest in better tech for the second one. And people seem to be fine with it.

 

[Mozza]

Evidence? Are you fucking kidding me? How about that?

Nintendo president apologizes for Joy-Con drift

“We are continuing to aim to improve our products”

www.polygon.com

I have 6 of these fuckers and 5 of them drift. 7 if you include the stick on the switch lite. It's shit hardware and they're doing it again.


Good and well but why should it fall on the customer to do that? Maybe tell that to Nintendo

Evidence that the new joycon have the same issues. And like I said I have had no issues at all.

 

[lughnasadh123]

Parsimony. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. They're charging more for first party games because they probably can. Same for hardware. If it ends up like 3DS after launch then they'll adjust because they'll have to. But you never know what you can get away with unless you try.

I can't even fault the balls to attempt it at this point because they know they have their base by them. What are you going to do - NOT buy the latest MK for your new system? I fully expect Pokemon to be the same when it comes out.

 

[NickFire]

I mean Nintendo is a publicly traded company expected to grow it's profits over time, and they think they can sell many 10's of millions at that price regardless of the price of the components (which likely are more expensive but not by much.) They have a greater chance of increasing profits that way vs. getting a lot more people to buy a Switch 2 than a Switch. (and it's a why not try both? scenario for them because they absolutely will sell out 10's of millions of devices at that price)

That's really all there is too it. And they are saying this now because they will be raising the price even higher in the US.

I think they may have over-shot on software price though.

I understand what you're saying. Still can't help but wonder if they are moving too far away from being a toy company and over relying on sales from enthusiasts like all of us here with these software and hardware prices.

They've mastered the ability to walk and chew gum on catering to old and new audiences by and large, so they deserve the benefit of the doubt I suppose. Just can't help but wonder how many parents will be saying inflation justifies this much on "toys."

 

[IntentionalPun]

Parsimony. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. They're charging more for first party games because they probably can. Same for hardware. If it ends up like 3DS after launch then they'll adjust because they'll have to. But you never know what you can get away with unless you try.

I honestly think this attitude works way better for hardware than software. You can only make so many consoles, and it's been proven in the market that high prices can be sustained while selling out your stock for years.

I'm just not as convinced the same is true for the $80 price of games (or the $70 price of this gen's games.) While obviously increasing the base price of any given game by ~15% is going to mean you can sell less copies and make the same or more money... and then of course you can lower the price eventually, that just doesn't seem like a great idea. It's better to front load your sales and make a game really hit big in the media to encourage even more sales than trying to game the system and price many people out day one.

 

[PeteBull]

King Bowser is a Gigachad, and not a brokie, he can afford stuff

 

[Itchy Tickles]

It is a bit pricey considering the performance doesn't seem like raw power but a lot of AI driven work like DLSS. It's still a small handheld tablet. Yeah, Nintendo have never wanted to lose money on hardware, ever, but their abuse of software costs is pathetic.

Side note, why do some people try and compare the Switch 2 to Steam Deck and act like Switch 2 "won" or leaves it the dirt? Games are not made or even ported to the Deck. An ini file gets edited, basically. If a game built and / or ported to Switch 2 wasn't better, there would be serious issues. The Switch 1 was just far weaker in terms of hardware, which is why the Steam Deck could handle things better. Plus the Deck is how old now? 3 years+ not counting developmental time.

 

[Square2015]

Not surprised considering Bowser is now president of NoA.

 

[Lethal01]

Steam Deck vs Switch 2 (Handheld)

Notice that Switch will benefit from lower level access to its power vs the Deck

Are there supposed to be images here?

Well not yet. If Vietnam doesn't cut back there Tariffs on the U S this thing might be $680.
And that's what Nintendo gets by having there consoles made by underpaid workers in a country that charges the U S 90% more to bring products there.

You are aware that the numbers (90%) that were listed as the tariffs on the $US were totally made up right?

 

[AJUMP23]

I bet Nintendo is making a $100 per system sold.

 

[dano1]

Are there supposed to be images here?



You are aware that the numbers (90%) that were listed as the tariffs on the $US were totally made up right?

I guess. So what's the real number? Plus it's the 46% number that matters.

 

[Vaquilla]

$450 is not excessive for a new gaming system in 2025.

Inflation alone means the original Switch would be nearly $400 if it came out today. Throw in a bigger screen, more storage, and other extra costs, and $450 is pretty much expected.

 

[Lethal01]

I guess. So what's the real number? Plus it's the 46% number that matters.

You generally dont have a flat rate for tariffs the average tariff seem to be 5%
But there are some food imports that can be as high as 30%

regardless the actual rate of tariffs doent really matted, the US basically wants to force them to buy more of their products since right now the sell to the US more than they buy.

Again the whole idea is just crazy and acting like Vietnam has done some evil thing to deserve this is just incorrect.

 

[dano1]

You generally dont have a flat rate for tariffs the average tariff seem to be 5%
But there are some food imports that can be as high as 30%

regardless the actual rate of tariffs doent really matted, the US basically wants to force them to buy more of their products since right now the sell to the US more than they buy.

Again the whole idea is just crazy and acting like Vietnam has done some evil thing to deserve this is just incorrect.

Mr. Lam had been one of the first world leaders to reach out to Mr. Trump after the tariffs were announced. In a phone call, he offered to reduce tariffs on U.S. imports to zero, and urged Mr. Trump to do the same, according to the Vietnamese government.


Well Trumps plan seems to be working. Although Vietnam wants 45 days to change..

 

[Lokaum D+]

i think i never saw a console release with this much bad press, geez

 

[vodka-bull]

Tariffs aren't the reason yet!

 

[sendit]

Nintendo boss on Switch 2 and tariffs: ‘we are actively assessing what the impact may be’

Sticker shock.

www.theverge.com

President of Nintendo's last name is Bowser? Mario lost, fitting decision.

 

[Lethal01]

Mr. Lam had been one of the first world leaders to reach out to Mr. Trump after the tariffs were announced. In a phone call, he offered to reduce tariffs on U.S. imports to zero, and urged Mr. Trump to do the same, according to the Vietnamese government.


Well Trumps plan seems to be working. Although Vietnam wants 45 days to change..

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Deputy Prime Minister Bui Thanh Son met with the U.S. ambassador to Vietnam, Marc E. Knapper, on Sunday and reiterated his country's willingness to lower the import tariff rate on U.S. products to zero in hope of postponing the onset of the new tariffs, according to a government dispatch.
Navarro called Vietnam the "poster child for nontariff cheating," and said that even if the country were to remove all its tariffs, the U.S. would still be in a heavy deficit.
U.S. senior trade counselor Peter Navarro rejected this possibility later that day, telling Fox News: "This is not a negotiation, this is a national emergency based on a trade deficit that's gotten out of control because of cheating."
If you simply lowered our tariffs and they lowered our tariffs the zero, we'd still run about $120 billion trade deficit with Vietnam,"
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Again they are trying to negotiate to a point where there is no trade deficit, meaning to negotiate to a point where basically Vietname buys from the US as much as it sells to the US, which is a ridiculous ask and the only way you can see this plan as "working" is if the plan was for every nation and ally we have to lose any faith in us since at the drop of the hat we will let a single idiot try to destroy their economy..

So going back there is nothing wrong with Nintendo's decision to maufacture in Vietnam, there is everything wrong with the random nonsensical tariffs we are slapping on Vietnam because we want to force them to buy more from us.

 

[EverydayBeast]

449.00 is good, let's look at the series x, that thing is still $400

 

[Roni]

Hot take, but upon reading the thread title I immediately thought: of course; tariffs are the reason it will cost more than 449.99, in the US.

 

[Gambit2483]

i think i never saw a console release with this much bad press, geez

That's what happens when you have haters and trolls working overtime to purposely push FALSE information and misinformation for clicks and likes.

There is no issue outside of MKW being $10 higher than the $70 standard, but haters tried to turn every other single thing into a false story to spread hate/fake outrage.

 

[Sooner]

Tariffs aren't the reason why it was priced at $450. But they may be the reason it's priced at $550.

 

[cash_longfellow]

Of course it isn't the reason…it's clearly because Nintendo is greedy as fuck. I can't wait to see what the tariffs run the price up to.

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

Why are gamers always so stupid? The problem is NOT the price of the console it's the games and other hidden costs!

Gamers always run with the narrative of whatever Youtubers and mainstream media is going with at the time. Total sheep mentality.

 

[Memati187]

Nintendo fucked the whole thing up, I was so hyped for this, but I couldn't care less right now. I don't even care for the price of the console, you buy it once and all good.
But the games cost too much, these are nintendo games afterall. The worst thing about it is the fact, that Nintendo doesn't lower their tags for their games.

 

[saintjules]

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