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[Celine]

And how many times have you seen any game sell 30M copies? Besides GTAV if there's any company that proves they can do it is Nintendo.

I'm not saying every Nintendo game has the potential for 70M copies sold if they went multiplatform. I'm saying that if MKWii sold 35m on Wii alone then that game would've sold way way more that that if it were on other consoles.

Hell, Mario Kart 8 would be giving any AC Unity and CoD AW a run for their money if it was multiplatform.

I'm not saying Nintendo should do it. Im realizing how much Nintendo software success I tied to Nintendo's often inability to make a home console a mainstream success.

Yes, when Nintendo systems do bad sales of Nintendo software are constrained by the low userbase however when they do great, sales of Nintendo key software are enhanced (they are by default the big must have game to buy, always in the spotlight, bundles etc.).

It's delusional to think that MKWii could have done 70M have it be on PS3/360/PC instead of Wii (or even with the Wii included).

EDIT:
GE: about 5M (NPD)

 

[Kriken]

combined known sales including remakes:

pokemon gen i (gb, gba): 58.02m
super mario bros. (nes, gbc, gba): 47.57m
pokemon gen ii (gb, gbc, ds): 42.21m
super mario world (snes, gba): 26.52m
pokemon gen iv (ds): 25.23m
pokemon gen v (ds): 24.1m
super mario 64 (n64, ds): 22.94m
pokemon gen iii (gba): 22.54m
super mario bros. 3 (nes, gba): 22.4m
donkey kong country (snes, gbc, gba): 13.31m
super mario all-stars (snes, wii): 12.79m
super mario bros. usa (nes, gba): 12.71m
ocarina of time (n64, 3ds): 10.95m
twilight princess (wii, gc): 8.58m
a link to the past (snes, gba): 7.33m
link's awakening (gb, gbc): 6.05m
the wind waker (gc, wii u): 5.65m

super mario 64 has been selling over a million units a year since 1996 on average.

Why does Nintendo make so much Mario and Pokemon?!

Spoiler

/s

 

[Mael]

I'm not saying Nintendo should but what? Are you high? You think their games sellinng more copies wouldn't translate to more money for the company?

Because they lose the royalty fee on each and every software sold, they also lose royalty fees on every 3rd party software.
And going by your logic Wiisports would have sold something like 100mil units.
To make more money on a project where they're not the platform holder they need to sell more to cover the % lost on royalty fee.
To make the operation globally they need to have their 1rst party software sell enough that the revenue they get (which is lower with the royalty fee deduced) would offset ALL the software revenue they get from all 3rd parties.
That's never happening.

 

[BlackJace]

The Wii u gimmick is used negatively since it never proved itself and actually affects the console negatively. Again, the Wii had decent support. Call of Duty had special versions made just for it and other next gen games got Wii versions made which is better than the Wii U has now. $249.99 is budget priced compared to its competition at $400 and $600...

1. "Yet another gimmick" implied that there's something intrinsically wrong with a gimmick. The Wii U's gimmick happened to be poorly thought out.
2. Special versions with gimped online capabilities, modes, cut DLC etc. sure. We're actually seeing that again with the Wii U. Sniper Elite V3 missing half the modes, no DLC for Wii U CODs, etc. It's only worse now because it looks like the support is drying up at an alarming rate.
3. Again, $249.99 is a hefty price to ask for something that was a modest step up from a Gamecube and had noticeable features missing compared to its competition.

The Wii sold 500 million units of 3rd party software. It had a lot of 3rd party support, just the kind that was crowed about on message boards.

Don't get me wrong, shovelware is legitimate third party support. However, the system did not receive software that defined the generation. You know what I'm talking about. The big publisher franchise. Yes, the system got "tons" of third party support, but it's always a slight against the system when it's specified what the software was (shovelware like Ubisoft's "Babyz" or whatever the fuck ).

 

[Aaron Strife]

aonuma: (exasperated sigh) after lessons learned from zelda wii u, we understand that fans really just want lots of focus on dungeons and puzzles. so we are going back to the twilight princess method. we thought we'd revisit it to refresh our memories. or something. i don't care anymore.

Between OOT, MM and WW they've really just set a precedent for the Zelda games getting portable or improved (or both!) remakes. It's like the Pokemon remakes at this point.

 

[balgajo]

TP + TP HD might not be able to beat OOT + OOT 3D

But maybe TP + TP n3DS

No god, please no. I'm enough disappointed with Xenoblade downgrade version. I really wanted to see Twilight Princess artstyle with a engine that do justice to it's asthethics. I prefer to wait for TP HD until next gen.

 

[The perfect Dark]

aonuma: (exasperated sigh) after lessons learned from zelda wii u, we understand that fans really just want lots of focus on dungeons and puzzles. so we are going back to the twilight princess method. we thought we'd revisit it to refresh our memories. or something. i don't care anymore.

somewhat related

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

Would the Arkham games be nearly as big if they didn't star Batman? Not only is he recognized by everyone, he's benefited from fantastic presence in other media as well.

Batman was in a ton of crap games over the years that didn't sell nearly as well as the Arkham games (or the Lego Batman games). Licensed shovelware may be near dead on consoles, but franchises will always have a benefit over new IP unless they have tons of negative baggage.

1. "Yet another gimmick" implied that there's something intrinsically wrong with a gimmick. The Wii U's gimmick happened to be poorly thought out.
2. Special versions with gimped online capabilities, modes, cut DLC etc. sure. We're actually seeing that again with the Wii U. Sniper Elite V3 missing half the modes, no DLC for Wii U CODs, etc. It's only worse now because it looks like the support is drying up at an alarming rate.
3. Again, $249.99 is a hefty price to ask for something that was a modest step up from a Gamecube and had noticeable features missing compared to its competition.

Wii sales were good enough that even if third party games sold less than their PS360 counterparts, they sold well enough to make the ports worthwhile. In some cases, they even eventually overtook the PS360 releases, like The Force Unleashed and Tiger Woods. The Wii U has none of that going on, because month to month sales are too poor for anything to have legs.

Don't get me wrong, shovelware is legitimate third party support. However, the system did not receive software that defined the generation. You know what I'm talking about. The big publisher franchise. Yes, the system got "tons" of third party support, but it's always a slight against the system when it's specified what the software was (shovelware like Ubisoft's "Babyz" or whatever the fuck ).

Guitar Hero, Mario & Sonic, and Just Dance defined the generation to the extent that MS bundled a mandatory $150 motion peripheral with their new console at launch and entered into exclusive publishing deals with Ubisoft and Harmonix. Motion gaming was a huge honey pot that several companies made fat stacks of cash on.

There is no equivalent to Guitar Hero or Rock Band or Wii Sports on Wii U. Even though the Wii U has Wii Sports and Wii Fit in HD, those games aren't being sold on the strength of the Wii U pad. The Wii U doesn't sell nearly the volume of franchise staples like CoD and Madden that the Wii did. Which is why those games aren't coming any longer. The Wii launched at $250 against a $399 360 and a $599 PS3. The Wii U this fall was $299 against a $320 Xbox One and a $399 PS4 both loaded with free games. The two systems aren't really comparable at all.

 

[BishopLamont]

Those Wii software sales.

THOSE WII SOFTWARE SALES.

this

 

[BumblebeeCody]

Damn right Pokemon is awesome.

 

[vagabondarts]

Pokemon's perpetual decline is crazy. I was sure it was doing better than that :0

 

[Mael]

Fzero X sold a million!
but damn the decline from original to GX!
Now I know why they're falling over themselves to make another one.
Wario Land did too most of the time!
I guess no more after the DS means that they wanted to improve sales after the last disappointing entry and it kinda failed :/

 

[Jezan]

F-Zero GX didn't even break a million in sales? No wonder they didn't make another one after that :-(

Edit: also, why is there a "2" by Super Mario Strikers?

They made two for GBA, GP Legend and Climax. But yeah, probably F-Zero s sright now sitting in the "How can we sell millions of this" pile at Nintendo.

Also, nice to see Metroid there, but no Other M(or Zero Mission). I wonder why?

 

[JoeM86]

They made two for GBA, GP Legend and Climax. But yeah, probably F-Zero s sright now sitting in the "How can we sell millions of this" pile at Nintendo.

Also, nice to see Metroid there, but no Other M(or Zero Mission). I wonder why?

Three for the GBA:
Maximum Velocity
GP Legend
Climax

F-Zero Climax never made it to the west. It had a track editor

 

[Bricky]

That is some of the craziest shit i ever read on gaf.

If it had been made obvious that it was a successor to the Wii, a console that sold more than 100 million units, would it be that crazy? Most of the public thinks the Wii U is the Wii or some variation/expansion on it to this very day.

The Wii U sold like absolute shit. 6.68 million units for a Nintendo console over two years on the market is shit. When compared, the Gamecube was doing double the numbers the Wii U was this March. Tripled and quadrupled sound extreme, but they aren't that big in this case.

Granted, quadrupled was a bit hyperbolic, but had people actually known the Wii U was the fancy new follow-up to their favorite sport and fitness simulator is it absolutely impossible to imagine it having sold 20-21m in a best-case scenario? The PS4 and Xbox One are doing crazy numbers (the PS4 sold 15m in one year), console gaming is bigger than ever before. I'm not saying changing the name to something more logical would've instantly resulted in amazing numbers like that, but I don't think saying it would have been possible is insane had the damn thing actually been seen as the next Wii from day one.

This, of course, is all if we asume the name 'Wii U' is the main problem here. I believe it is, but who knows. Maybe the Gamepad shied more people away than I think, but people loved double screens, 3D and motion controls so why would this be the gimmick to stop that trend.

If you want a more realistic expectation, not my best-case "everyone going crazy for a Wii successor" scenario, I think it would've done 12-15m this March just by not having a confusing and unmarketable name.

 

[TI82]

somewhat related

I mean, I liked wind waker and TP (except the bugs ugh) at release. Skyward sword is a legitimately bad game.

 

[TwEE-N-Toast]

Look at Super Mario Bros 2 and Legend of Zelda: Adventures of link in the top 10.

Lot of weirdos on the net lately have been convincing themselves that these were really unpopular games.

Not sure if it's some sort of illuminati conspiracy but it might be.

 

[AniHawk]

by series (including remakes and ports):

super mario: 289.83m | average: 15.25m
super mario bros. (nes, gbc, gba): 47.57m
new super mario bros. (ds): 30.75m
new super mario bros. wii (wii): 28.65m
super mario world (snes, gba): 26.52m
super mario 64 (n64, ds): 22.94m
super mario bros. 3 (nes, gba): 22.4m
super mario land (gb): 18.14m
super mario all-stars (snes, wii): 12.79m
super mario bros. usa (nes, gba): 12.71m
super mario galaxy (wii): 12.22m
super mario land 2 (gb): 11.18m
super mario 3d land (3ds): 9.27m
new super mario bros. 2 (3ds): 9.01m
super mario galaxy 2 (wii): 7.41m
super mario sunshine (gc): 5.91m
new super mario bros. u (wii u): 4.16m
super mario 3d world (wii u): 3.79m
super mario bros. 2 (nes): 2.65m
new super luigi u (wii u): 1.76m

pokemon: 248.75m
pokemon gen i (gb, gba): 58.02m
pokemon gen ii (gb, gbc, ds): 42.21m
pokemon gen iii (gba, 3ds): 31.89m
pokemon gen iv (ds): 25.23m
pokemon gen v (ds): 24.1m
pokemon gen vi (3ds): 13.70m
pokemon mystery dungeon 2 (ds): 6.37m
pokemon mystery dungeon (gba, ds): 5.69m
pokemon stadium 2 (n64): 5.46m
pokemon pinball (gb): 5.31m
pokemon tcg (gb): 3.7m
pokemon snap (n64): 3.63m
pokemon ranger (ds): 2.93m
pokemon stadium 3 (n64): 2.46m
pokemon colosseum (gc): 2.41m
pokemon ranger 2 (ds): 2.35m
pokemon battle revolution (wii): 1.95m
hey you pikachu (n64): 1.83m
pokemon ranger 3 (ds): 1.53m
pokemon pinball ruby sapphire: 1.37m
pokemon stadium (n64): 1.37m
pokemon xd (gc): 1.37m
pokemon rumble blast (3ds): 1.35m
pokemon mystery dungeon 3 (3ds): 1.27m
pokepark (wii): 1.25m

mario kart: 106.78m
mario kart wii (wii): 35.53m
mario kart ds (ds): 23.56m
mario kart 7 (3ds): 11.42m
mario kart 64 (n64): 9.87m
super mario kart (snes): 8.76m
mario kart double dash (gc): 6.88m
mario kart super circuit (gba): 5.91m
mario kart 8 (wii u): 4.77m

zelda: 78.56m
ocarina of time (n64, 3ds): 10.95m
twilight princess (wii, gc): 8.58m
a link to the past (snes, gba): 7.33m
the legend of zelda (nes): 6.51m
link's awakening (gb, gbc): 6.05m
link's crossbow training (wii): 5.79m
the wind waker (gc, wii u): 5.65m
phantom hourglass (ds): 4.76m
zelda ii: the adventure of link (nes): 4.38m
oracle of ages/seasons (gbc): 3.98m
skyward sword (wii): 3.67m
majora's mask (n64): 3.36m
spirit tracks (ds): 2.98m
a link between worlds (3ds): 2.51m
the minish cap (gba): 1.76m

donkey kong: 47.59m
donkey kong country (snes, gbc, gba): 13.31m
donkey kong country returns (wii, 3ds): 8.05m
donkey kong country 64: 5.27m
donkey kong country 2 (snes): 5.15m
donkey kong land (gb): 3.97m
donkey kong country 3 (snes): 3.15m
donkey kong (gb): 3.07m
donkey kong land 2 (gb): 2.35m
donkey kong (nes) 1.13m
donkey kong jr (nes): 1.11m
donkey kong land 3 (gb): 1.03m

mario party: 37.78m
mario party ds (ds): 9.31m
mario party 8 (wii): 8.85m
mario party 9 (wii): 3.11m
mario party (n64): 2.7m
mario party 2 (n64): 2.48m
mario party 4 (gc): 2.46m
mario party 5 (gc): 2.15m
mario party 7 (gc): 2.04m
mario party 3 (n64): 1.91m
mario party 6 (gc): 1.63m
mario party: island tour (3ds): 1.14m

super smash bros.: 34.68m
super smash bros. brawl (wii): 12.14m
super smash bros. melee (gc): 7.41m
super smash bros. for 3ds (3ds): 6.19m
super smash bros. (n64): 5.55m
super smash bros. for wii u (wii u): 3.39m

kirby: 32.59m
kirby's dream land (gb): 5.13m
kirby super star (snes, ds): 4.43m
kirby's adventure (nes, gba): 3.85m
kirby's dream land 2 (gb): 2.36m
kirby squeak squad (ds): 2.27m
kirby's pinball land (gb): 2.19m
kirby epic yarn (wii): 1.85m
kirby's return to dreamland (wii): 1.79m
kirby 64 (n64): 1.77m
kirby triple deluxe: 1.70m
kirby and the amazing mirror (gba): 1.46m
kirby air ride: 1.34m
kirby tilt n tumble (gb): 1.23m
kirby mass attack (ds): 1.22m

animal crossing: 27.01m
animal crossing wild world (ds): 11.73m
animal crossing new leaf (3ds): 8.73m
animal crossing city folk (wii): 4.32m
animal crossing (gc): 2.23m

mario sports series: 22.88m
mario power tennis (gc, wii): 2.95m
mario strikers supercharged (wii): 2.6m
super mario sluggers (wii): 2.32m
mario tennis 64 (n64): 2.32m
mario hoops 3 x 3 (ds): 2.03m
mario sports mix (wii): 1.98m
super mario strikers (gc): 1.55m
mario golf 64 (n64): 1.47m
mario golf: toadstool tour (gc): 1.27m
mario tennis open (3ds): 1.21m
mario tennis (gb): 1.18m
mario superstar baseball (gc): 1m
nes open tournament golf (nes): 1m

mario rpg series: 22.07m
mario & luigi: bowser's inside story (ds): 4.56m
super paper mario (wii): 4.23m
paper mario: sticker star (3ds): 2.21m
super mario rpg (snes): 2.14m
mario & luigi: superstar saga (gba): 2.09m
mario & luig: dream team (3ds): 2.08m
mario & luigi: partners in time (ds): 1.73m
paper mario the thousand year door (gc): 1.66m
paper mario (n64): 1.37m

yoshi: 16.33m
yoshi's island (snes, gba): 5.88m
yoshi's island ds (ds): 3.36m
yoshi (gb) 3.12m
yoshi story (n64): 2.85m
yoshi's cookie (nes): 1.12m

metroid: 13.84m
metroid prime (gc): 2.78m
metroid (nes): 2.73m
metroid 2: return of samus (gb): 1.72m
metroid fusion (gba): 1.6m
super metroid (snes): 1.42m
metroid prime 3 (wii): 1.41m
metroid prime 2 (gc): 1.1m
metroid prime hunters (ds): 1.08m

wario land: 12.13m
warioland (gb): 5.19m
warioland 3 (gbc): 2.2m
warioland 4 (gba): 2.2m
warioland 2 (gb): 1.48m
wario land: the shake dimension (wii): 1.06m

wario ware: 5.92m
wario ware touched! (ds): 2.47m
wario ware smooth moves: 2.35m
wario ware (gba): 1.1m

f-zero: 4.97m
f-zero (snes): 2.85m
f-zero x (n64): 1.1m
f-zero maximum velocity (gba): 1.05m

 

[HeavyMetalLover91]

I mean, I liked wind waker and TP (except the bugs ugh) at release. Skyward sword is a legitimately bad game.

Yeah, okay.

Spoiler

It's not

 

[Madao]

Twilight Princess surpassed Ocarina of Time. I wonder if if TP + TP HD would surpass Oot + Oot 3D.

wrong. OoT is still ahead.

OoT N64 > Wii TP

OoT N64 + 3DS > TP Wii + GC

a TP remaster could make it pass OoT though since the difference is 2 million but it'd need to be ona better selling console (next gen)

 

[Jezan]

Three for the GBA:
Maximum Velocity
GP Legend
Climax

F-Zero Climax never made it to the west. It had a track editor

Yes, but Maximum Velocity was before F-Zero died in a blaze of glory with GX. Legend and Climax just made sure it wouldn't wake up anymore. 10 years later and we are still waiting

 

[Verendus]

It's honestly a shame Super Mario 3D World is handicapped by the Wii U so much. When I read the GAF reception in regards to the game (not everyone of course but a fair few people), so many people said it's a weak entry after Galaxy, but I really disagree. Galaxy is the first 3D Mario I liked, but 3D World really has its shining points. It's such a great game for local multiplayer. Fun, challenging, and hilarious because things inevitably go sour and people start messing with each other.

On the other hand, thanks to the massive Wii U handicap, Playstation Smash Bomba on the PS4 is probably going to stand a chance of outselling Super Smash Bros. for Wii U. It'll be a hollow victory, but at least people will be able to sleep peacefully at night.

somewhat related

I've always found this idea of mocking the pronunciation problems Japanese people may have with English unpleasant. Although I understand the message behind the post is about something else.

 

[Mr Swine]

hasnt the 3DS sold more than 50 million yet? seems like it has been standing still at 45 million for ages

 

[Michael F. Assbender]

somewhat related

Wow. If that were a picture of a black guy and used a bunch of words mocking "Ebonic" African American speech, would it be posted here?

Edit: I should clarify that I'm not accusing anyone of racism or anything. I just notice that mocking Asians seems to be accepted on a level that few other forms of race-based mockery are.

 

[AniHawk]

Playstation Smash Bomba on the PS4 is probably going to stand a chance of outselling Super Smash Bros. for Wii U. It'll be a hollow victory, but at least people will be able to sleep peacefully at night.

holy shit, sony's going to try their hand at that again? the game did 300k after six months on a userbase of about 26 million people. smash bros. for wii u cleared that in a week on a userbase of about 3 million people. not happening. the playstation audience doesn't care for mascots.

 

[Verendus]

holy shit, sony's going to try their hand at that again? the game did 300k after six months on a userbase of about 26 million people. smash bros. for wii u cleared that in a week on a userbase of about 3 million people. not happening. the playstation audience doesn't care for mascots.

It shipped a million. Not that it's any consolation. It may not exactly be what I wanted, but baby steps. The Playstation audience will care as long as a great game is delivered. And many other things such as promotion, messaging, content etc. is done well.

And more importantly, I care. That's all that really matters to be honest.

 

[Linkstrikesback]

wrong. OoT is still ahead.

OoT N64 > Wii TP

OoT N64 + 3DS > TP Wii + GC

a TP remaster could make it pass OoT though since the difference is 2 million but it'd need to be ona better selling console (next gen)

That's hardly a fair comparision. Wii TP and GC TP are the same game, launched at virtually the same time (mere weeks varying a little by region), so the sales really do need to be added together. No-one reports pokemon sales seperately for two different versions of the same game, even with the minor differences, while later remakes are counted separately. It's the same deal with TP Wii and TP GC.

It's certainly not the same thing as a 13 year gap between a game and it's remake. Otherwise, we have to wait until at least 2019 to see if a similar remake is happening in the same period of time, then 3 more years to accurately compare the sales.

 

[Alex_Mexico]

That's why selling Rare (especially if you look how well their titles sold on N64), shutting down NoA's authonomy and their entire western development division and dismissal of their western second parties were huge mistakes by Iwata's managament and Nintendo paid a big price for it.

Goldeneye and Perfect Dark were the offspring of FPS gaming on home consoles. Nintendo had this audience on the N64 and they decided to abandon it on the GCN. By doing it so, Microsoft grabbed these audience and we know the rest of the story.

Could someone explain to me that? I keep reading about that happening but I've never had a decent explanation about what kind of autonomy NoA had that later was stripped from them.

What happened here?

 

[Alex_Mexico]

Because they lose the royalty fee on each and every software sold, they also lose royalty fees on every 3rd party software.
And going by your logic Wiisports would have sold something like 100mil units.
To make more money on a project where they're not the platform holder they need to sell more to cover the % lost on royalty fee.
To make the operation globally they need to have their 1rst party software sell enough that the revenue they get (which is lower with the royalty fee deduced) would offset ALL the software revenue they get from all 3rd parties.
That's never happening.

No. Wii Sports, like every console bundled game ever, is a different story altogether. You'll notice I didn't mention it in my post and said Mario Kart Wii.

Wii Sports was bundled with the Wii console for the first years of the console making it sell by default tons and tons to many people who wanted the console but didn't give a crap about the game. Like me.

 

[KillerMan91]

hasnt the 3DS sold more than 50 million yet? seems like it has been standing still at 45 million for ages

Nintendo has shipped only 2.7 million 3DSs trough last three quarters because they massively overshipped during last holiday season (and sales have also slowed down yoy). That is probably why it feels that it has been around 45 million for ages.

 

[sörine]

by series (including remakes and ports):

mario sports series: 18.64m
mario power tennis (gc, wii): 2.95m
mario strikers supercharged (wii): 2.6m
super mario sluggers (wii): 2.32m
mario tennis 64 (n64): 2.32m
mario sports mix (wii): 1.98m
super mario strikers (gc): 1.55m
mario golf 64 (n64): 1.47m
mario golf: toadstool tour (gc): 1.27m
mario tennis (gb): 1.18m
mario superstar baseball (gc): 1m

You should add NES Open Tournament Golf to this list. It's actually the first Mario Sports game although it was retitled for western markets.

 

[Welfare]

What was Nintendo's FY goal for the Wii U this year? 3.6 million?

 

[Aquamarine]

What was Nintendo's FY goal for the Wii U this year? 3.6 million?

+3.6 million units, or 9.77 million ltd by march 2015.


so far they're at 7.29 million ltd as of september 2014.

 

[Alex_Mexico]

+3.6 million units, or 9.77 million LTD by March 2015.


So far they're at 7.29 million LTD as of September 2014.

That's depressing.

If this trend continues the WiiU could end up being the worst selling Nintendo console in history with the exception of the less-than-a-year-in-stores-not-even-released-in-Europe Virtual Boy.

 

[Firemind]

Damn none of the Advance Wars games reached the 1m treshold? RIP

 

[Welfare]

That's depressing.

If this trend continues the WiiU could end up being the worst selling Nintendo console in history with the exception of the less-than-a-year-in-stores-not-even-released-in-Europe Virtual Boy.

It will.

 

[Schryver]

Donkey Kong sold more than Banjo? For shame

 

[The perfect Dark]

Wow. If that were a picture of a black guy and used a bunch of words mocking "Ebonic" African American speech, would it be posted here?

Edit: I should clarify that I'm not accusing anyone of racism or anything. I just notice that mocking Asians seems to be accepted on a level that few other forms of race-based mockery are.

hmm it's an old pic and he's saying the truth. Also it's pretty funny (not because of the "language") . But I can see where you're coming from.

 

[Mory Dunz]

That's depressing.

If this trend continues the WiiU could end up being the worst selling Nintendo console in history with the exception of the less-than-a-year-in-stores-not-even-released-in-Europe Virtual Boy.

That's been guaranteed for a long time though.

 

[Immaculate]

Game and Watch did THAT well? I always thought of it as one of nintendo's failed/less successful products they still took pride in. wow

 

[Aquamarine]

Damn none of the Advance Wars games reached the 1m treshold? RIP

the original advance wars + advance wars 2 sold less than 400,000 in the usa.

and the ds iterations did worse.


it was reliable, but it was never a big seller. probably why nintendo ended up putting the franchise on hold.

 

[The perfect Dark]

That's been guaranteed for a long time though.

well there's still Animal Crossing

 

[Mael]

No. Wii Sports, like every console bundled game ever, is a different story altogether. You'll notice I didn't mention it in my post and said Mario Kart Wii.

Wii Sports was bundled with the Wii console for the first years of the console making it sell by default tons and tons to many people who wanted the console but didn't give a crap about the game. Like me.

Wii Sports is pretty much the reason the Wii was sold out for more than 2 years straight.
They would have needed to put it on something as undesirable as the WiiU to dampen its effect at the time.
That's my analysis anyway and I don't think there's much you can say that could prove that Wii Sports sold console more than console sold Wiisports.
Seriously I'm personally responsible for at least 5 Wii unit being sold just with that and I'm the last guy to push people to play games when I have people over.
Heck the Japanese sales of Wiisports is pretty good indication that the game wouldn't have been anything but successful if it wasn't bundled anyway.

Mario Kart Wii was already selling like hotcake before they bundled it with the console because that bundle was already what people where buying anyway.
The bundle was even supposed to be limited and it was already at more than 20 mil by that time.
So yeah MKWii reached this height not because it was bundled like Killzone 2 since it cost something like 15bucks anyway.
We're talking about a game Gamestop is confident that they can sell you for its original price with 10 bucks discount if you want preowned..
MKWii is basically like NSMB, it sold so much because there was a demand for it and putting it on another system isn't gonna make the sales improve at all.

 

[Jeels]

Huge collapse damn. Wii ds were something else.

Eh, they really deserve it, people aren't going to buy the same game 3 or 4 times in a row (ie Mario Kart DS -> Mario Kart Wii -> Mario Kart 7 -> Mario Kart 8). There's very little differentiating these titles, to give an example...

Although I wish their more unique ventures like Bayonetta 2 would sell ;_;

 

[Pociask]

Our beloved Satoru Iwata programmed Balloon Fight, so he's going to keep shoehorning it into everything until he resigns. Please understand.

Also, your list is wrong. Kirby's Adventure and Ice Climber are both available.

Huh. That's what I get for checking at work. Is Kung Fu a licensing issue? I just remember a friend having the game and it seeming awesome - was it a tie in to that old tv show?

Also, I too was surprised at the success of game and watch. I was born in 83, so I guess too late to see them in the wild. Like how many old Tiger Electronics games do you see today?

 

[Mory Dunz]

Eh, they really deserve it, people aren't going to buy the same game 3 or 4 times in a row (ie Mario Kart DS -> Mario Kart Wii -> Mario Kart 7 -> Mario Kart 8). There's very little differentiating these titles, to give an example...

Although I wish their more unique ventures like Bayonetta 2 would sell ;_;

-_-

 

[protomouse]

Gunpei quit over how bad the VB sold, who's going to leave over the Wii U?

Yokoi left Nintendo because he felt they were moving away from what he wanted to do, which was to keep inventing new and inexpensive toys (like the Ultra Hand). It had nothing to do with the Virtual Boy's commercial failure (something the company head, Yamauchi, took full responsibility for).

 

[The perfect Dark]

Eh, they really deserve it, people aren't going to buy the same game 3 or 4 times in a row (ie Mario Kart DS -> Mario Kart Wii -> Mario Kart 7 -> Mario Kart 8). There's very little differentiating these titles, to give an example...

Although I wish their more unique ventures like Bayonetta 2 would sell ;_;

So you haven't played them?

 

[Jeels]

So you haven't played them?

I own all but the 3DS one.

 

[The perfect Dark]

I own all but the 3DS one.

one of the best