Nintendo Switch 2 account bans continue

Zannegan said:
"Accidentally"
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There isn't really any evidence that people are getting banned for used games. The idea stems from people not knowing how Nintendo detects the use of a flash cart, assuming it must be because it is looking for game ids of known leaked games. However, if it is able to detect a flash cart with your own dumps on it, then that obviously can't be how it works. And besides, people don't typically dump games that have already been dumped. There won't be 1000 different copies of Bayo 3 that have been dumped and are floating around on the internet for Nintendo to see.
So I think the bans over buying used games is fake news by people who are trying to hide that they were using flash carts, such as in this case.
 
FoxMcChief said:
Don't be a cheap, and buy new.

You're welcome
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Nah bro. This ain't the consumer. If we have fake Nintendo cartridges being sold as legit then that's on Nintendo. They should have secured this stuff. I'm not sure that's what is happening though. More than likely it is this mig crap. That's what folks should avoid.
 
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Topher said:
Nah bro. This ain't the consumer. If we have fake Nintendo cartridges being sold as legit then that's on Nintendo. They should have secured this stuff. I'm not sure that's what is happening though. More than likely it is this mig crap. That's what folks should avoid.
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I think it's come down to some consumers feel like they should have access to everything at every moment. Like, who is the mig crap really for? Pirates? Folks that think they need to travel with every single switch game they ever bought?

Man. Some serious first world issues when you feel like you need to travel with more than 20 game cartridges. My travel case holds 24 games.

Maybe the folks that feel the need to take their entire library of games should stick to PC.

I don't mean to make it sound like I'm defending shitty Nintendo practices. But I'm not gonna feel bad for the pirates. And if people are that worried about bans, then seriously, just buy new. There are constantly sales for both physical and digital.
 
FoxMcChief said:
I think it's come down to some consumers feel like they should have access to everything at every moment. Like, who is the mig crap really for? Pirates? Folks that think they need to travel with every single switch game they ever bought?

Man. Some serious first world issues when you feel like you need to travel with more than 20 game cartridges. My travel case holds 24 games.

Maybe the folks that feel the need to take their entire library of games should stick to PC.

I don't mean to make it sound like I'm defending shitty Nintendo practices. But I'm not gonna feel bad for the pirates. And if people are that worried about bans, then seriously, just buy new. There are constantly sales for both physical and digital.
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I disagree with the whole premise of "just buy new". It's a shitty proposition and there is no need for customers to play defense for multibillion corpos.

And hell, this is Nintendo we are talking about. Their games rarely go down in price and when they get an occasional sale it's like 20-30% at most even years down the line. Now you won't even be able to sell the games since people will be paranoid about the bans.

As far as MiG is concerned, I think the whole thing is overblown. If you really wanted to pirate Switch 1 games, plenty of Switch 1 ROMs have been around for many years before MiG.

That said, if Nintendo bans MiG users so be it, but banning folks who inadvertently bought a used game is BS.
 
Sakura said:
So I think the bans over buying used games is fake news by people who are trying to hide that they were using flash carts, such as in this case.
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Oh for sure. We would have heard a ton more reports if playing used games was all it took to catch a ban.

These stories have done a great job of exposing how many retards pirate shit.
 
FoxMcChief said:
I think it's come down to some consumers feel like they should have access to everything at every moment. Like, who is the mig crap really for? Pirates? Folks that think they need to travel with every single switch game they ever bought?

Man. Some serious first world issues when you feel like you need to travel with more than 20 game cartridges. My travel case holds 24 games.

Maybe the folks that feel the need to take their entire library of games should stick to PC.

I don't mean to make it sound like I'm defending shitty Nintendo practices. But I'm not gonna feel bad for the pirates. And if people are that worried about bans, then seriously, just buy new. There are constantly sales for both physical and digital.
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I agree with most of your post, but folks shouldn't have to worry about being banned if they are doing nothing wrong. Again that's pointing fingers at consumers and not the problem (assuming there is one). If it is just mig shit then there isn't a problem.
 
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Unpopular opinion here, went all digital since like 2018, haven't regretted it since. 0% chance of this happening.
 
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Topher said:
I agree with most of your post, but folks shouldn't have to worry about being banned if they are doing nothing wrong. Again that's pointing fingers at consumers and not the problem (assuming there is one). If it is just mig shit then there isn't a problem.
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Yeah, if it's a legit cart then people shouldn't be banned for using it, even if it's one that was ripped and the cert was used in a mig switch. If Nintendo can't tell the difference then they shouldn't be banning for it. If they can tell the difference then I don't care if they ban consoles if the owner uses a mig cart to play games. Nintendo isn't under any obligation to support circumvention devices on their platform.

Still makes me not trust buying used Switch or Switch 2 games until Nintendo clarifies one way or the other. I doubt they clarify much because they won't want folks to know what they know.
 
Topher said:
YouTuber seems to have deleted every single tweet referenced in the article.

Why the hell is a guy with 1.2 million subscribers buying used games on ebay?
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Hey man, errbody tryna save some money out here
 
Nintendo needs to be sued into oblivion. Regardless of the reason, they should not have the ability to brick your fucking device. What a bunch of asshats running this company. Even if Zelda is perfect I'm not buying into this.
 
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I'm just waiting the '7 million sold' announcement within the next four weeks, and you can shove the FUD up your ass with sandpaper and finely ground razor blades.
 
And people called Brazil crazy when they decided to sue Nintendo over this. How Nintendo manages to make their services worse every new generation?
 
Deerock71 said:
I'm just waiting the '7 million sold' announcement within the next four weeks, and you can shove the FUD up your ass with sandpaper and finely ground razor blades.
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I'm waiting for the "how many of those were people who were unfairly banned for playing ripped games having to buy new consoles" questions.
 
Sinozen said:
Nintendo needs to be sued into oblivion. Regardless of the reason, they should not have the ability to brick your fucking device. What a bunch of asshats running this company. Even if Zelda is perfect I'm not buying into this bullshit.
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Please go ahead and sue if you dare otherwise its all an empty threat to them.
 
Sinozen said:
Nintendo needs to be sued into oblivion. Regardless of the reason, they should not have the ability to brick your fucking device. What a bunch of asshats running this company. Even if Zelda is perfect I'm not buying into this bullshit.
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justiceiro said:
And people called Brazil crazy when they decided to sue Nintendo over this. How Nintendo manages to make their services worse every new generation?
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Welcome to not reading the thread, along with not realizing every hardware company has these stipulations in their EULA. If you don't like it you'll have to stop playing video games more or less.

Also Quinn is kind of an idiot if you read his tweets so ... wouldn't surprise me that he's not being entirely truthful about what he did.
 
I like how they use the fact that its a content creator with a million subs as some kind of evidence he wouldnt lie. Literally the people most likely to lie - most content creators would make a politician blush.
 
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StereoVsn said:
I disagree with the whole premise of "just buy new". It's a shitty proposition and there is no need for customers to play defense for multibillion corpos.

And hell, this is Nintendo we are talking about. Their games rarely go down in price and when they get an occasional sale it's like 20-30% at most even years down the line. Now you won't even be able to sell the games since people will be paranoid about the bans.

As far as MiG is concerned, I think the whole thing is overblown. If you really wanted to pirate Switch 1 games, plenty of Switch 1 ROMs have been around for many years before MiG.

That said, if Nintendo bans MiG users so be it, but banning folks who inadvertently bought a used game is BS.
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Isn't that thing used to store and play those ROMs from the internet?
 
"Hope my Switch 2 continues to work with my MIG Flash game dumps. This is the best way to carry all of your physical games all at once without risking a ban on an unmodded console."

This was not a case of used games causing a ban, he's just an idiot who doesn't realize why he was banned.
 
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StereoVsn said:
There have been reports from other folks all over Reddit and not just this YouTuber.

Is it 100% clear that this is what's happening but there is a lot of smoke.
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I'm just hoping it is a bunch of mig users. Otherwise, the Switch 2 body count is going to pile up and this will get ugly.
 
Topher said:
Still aren't. Legit used game cartridges are not being altered.
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That's what I thought, but then, how are they banning used games, if they weren't already shown, somehow?, to have been used to make copies?

Genuinely curios, because I always thought used games couldn't be tracked as having been used that way.
 
StereoVsn said:
Nobody is altering games. Nintendo is banning physical copies AND people playing digital ones at same time vs banning only the MiG users.
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I hope that isn't true, as I have quite a few digital and physical editions of the same games. I guess you are saying people that are doing it at the same time, as in some kind of funny business?
 
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ShadyAcshuns said:
That's what I thought, but then, how are they banning used games, if they weren't already shown, somehow?, to have been used to make copies?

Genuinely curios, because I always thought used games couldn't be tracked as having been used that way.
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We don't really know for sure. Most of the noise, from what I've seen, is around the use of the mig. If they are banning actual cartridges then that's shitty. If they are just banning consoles that make use of the Mig then no problem.
 
StereoVsn said:
There have been reports from other folks all over Reddit and not just this YouTuber.

Is it 100% clear that this is what's happening but there is a lot of smoke.
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That has happened to some, but how widespread isn't clear. And reports like this where the end user was using a MiG Switch himself are misleading. Nintendo doesn't want you using MiG.

Nintendo doesn't want to ban users using legal physical carts, it's a biproduct of the red flagging of the automatic banning system. You can contact nintendo support to unban (not saying this is ideal, but as a point to Nintendo doesn't want to ban used games).
 
Topher said:
We don't really know for sure. Most of the noise, from what I've seen, is around the use of the mig. If they are banning actual cartridges then that's shitty. If they are just banning consoles that make use of the Mig then no problem.
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Yeah that's fucked up. I was thinking when they use these physical copies to make mig copies, somehow Nintendo can see that they were used for that? If so I suppose the people doing that then sell them on eBay to unsuspecting victims.
 
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